Garowe II Communique

[Abwaan]

http://www.raxanreeb.com/2012/02/somalia-communique-from-garowe-second-somali-national-consultative-constitutional-conference/

[Somalia]

Everyone seems to have gotten what they want. Caalin and Sharif Hassan got it good.

[Dr_Osman]

The only way forward is through the garowe principles

[Abwaan]

Somalia;791255 wrote:

Everyone seems to have gotten what they want. Caalin and Sharif Hassan got it good.

Are Caalin and Sharif Hassan everyone? Cayaar baad meesha ku haysaa!

[Jacaylbaro]

Agree to disagree .....

[Somalia]

Abwaan;791266 wrote:

Are Caalin and Sharif Hassan everyone? Cayaar baad meesha ku haysaa!

This agreement will be Somalia's stepping stone into a federal system. The international community is behind it and so are the Somalis who want to move forward. The British Ambassador also said it is the move forward.

 

Excuse us for not fixing your part of Somalia so you could participate and you know I ain't talking about Al-Shabaab held territories.

 

Anyone who is against this is against peace. Al-Shabaab have already come out against it, so be on the wrong side of history, it won't matter.

 

As for Caalin and Sheikh Hassan, no they are not everyone.

[Abwaan]

If one has concerns on some of the issues discussed or agreed does that mean they are against the whole meeting? For the Federal aad ka hadleysid right NOW, be ready in every sub-clan federal noqdaan...maalinkaas yeysan kula xumaan oo haka shallaayin. I don't mind federalism haddii Soomaalidu ay gaarto xilli deganaasho dalka ka jiro, ay u bislaato, cod loo qaado, si cadddaalad ahna lagu saleeyo. Laakiin dalkii oo Shabaab badanaa haysto ayaan marsanayaa card hakuu shaqayso.

I don't think in qof caqli leh uu nabadda ka hor imaanayo. aan ka ahayn kuwa xasadka ah oo waxa ay naftooda la jecel yihiin aan walaalahood la jeclayn. Remember we once had peace and I THINK that was lost due to injustice.

[kingofkings]

^^^^^^^^federalism is the only way to prevent future injustice. furthermore, not every qabli can have their own state, unless they have two or more states to themselves. i hope that answers your concern.

[Abwaan]

kingofkings;791369 wrote:

^^^^^^^^. furthermore, not every qabli can have their own state, unless they have two or more states to themselves. .

maxaa u diidaya haddii kaad u mashxaradeysidba uu yeeshay? You think in halkaas dagaal ku dhammaanayo? Ma cid baa cid xukumi karta? Waxaad naftaada la jeceshahay dadka kalena waa lala jeclaadaa! Qax kale kama bixi karno, dagaalna Soomaali uma ahan. Kan hadda jira Ilaah hannaga joojiyo, mid federalism lagu raadinayo dalka inta ka hartay buuba burburin...Anigu cidna uma hadlayo, balse waxaan leeyahay Soomaalidu waa isku mid!

[kingofkings]

Abwaan;791371 wrote:

maxaa u diidaya haddii kaad u mashxaradeysidba uu yeeshay? You think in halkaas dagaal ku dhammaanayo? Ma cid baa cid xukumi karta? Waxaad naftaada la jeceshahay dadka kalena waa lala jeclaadaa! Qax kale kama bixi karno, dagaalna Soomaali uma ahan. Kan hadda jira Ilaah hannaga joojiyo, mid federalism lagu raadinayo dalka inta ka hartay buuba burburin...Anigu cidna uma hadlayo, balse waxaan leeyahay Soomaalidu waa isku mid!

Ma cid baa cid xukumi karta? if that's the mentality, then what's the point of creating a central government then? If federalism fails, i promise you you will see small independent states just like yugoslavia. So, if i were you, i would pray federalism works.

[Samafal]

Abwaan

 

Adiga ma federalism ayaad leedahay soomaliya kama shaqayn karo mise Puntland baad leedahay wax sad bursiya bay rabtaa? Iima kala cada warkaagu

 

Dad badan waxay qabaan federalismku inuusan ka shaqayn karin koonfurta oo qabaailo is diidan dagan yihiin, marka ma kula tahay in ay haboon tahay in Southern regions ay hoos yimaadaan Dawlada dhexe meesha Puntland iyo Somaliland loo daayo inay ahaadaan autonomous regions sida Tanzania ku tahay zanzibar iyo dalal kale oo badan?

[faarah22]

so what do you want ? we go back to the old siyaad centralized everything is in xamar system or move forward as some have shown in puntland, somaliland, galmudug, azania every corner of the country being developed and have bottom up administration. the answer is emphatically the latter. don't let the hatred of one qabiil color your perception. its good for all clans equally. smh

[Abwaan]

Samafal, waa su'aal wanaagsan. Indhaha miyaa la is tirayaa? Yaa yiri labadan degaan ee aad soo sheegtay ayaa Federaalkoodu xaq ku dhisan yahay....Of course there is Sedbursi, Soomaaliduna guud ahaan diyaar uma ahadan federaal. Waan qabaa in maamullada degaanka aan dowladda dhexe helicopeter ku keenin balse yaan la degdegin oo dalka nabad buuxda oo waarta haka dhacdo markaas wixii la isku afgarto hallagu dhaqmo....

[Abwaan]

faarah22;791382 wrote:

don't let the hatred of one qabiil color your perception.

I guess it is the other way round; you and few other individulas over here being selfish...I hate no qabiil and will never do that....Don't try to silence me with your name calling...it won't work for you....I am against the injustice...If qabiil aad ka hadleysid waxaa laga yaabaa in la igu tiriyo degaannada aad soo sheegtay mid ka mid ah oo I am not saying "Ciddeenna ayaa ku qadday" lagaba yaabee in qayb weyn la siiyey but it does not mean inaan sidaada oo kale mashxarado, Unlike you waxaan arrinta ka fiirinayaa Soomaalinnimo.

[Samafal]

OK. waxaad leedahay Federalismkooda xaq kuma dhisna, yeey boobeen, maxayse ku sad bursadeen? inaad ii cadeyso arintaas waa jeclaan lahaa.

 

Hada waxaa lagu heshiiyey syttemkii dalka laakiin marwalba nabad bay u baahantahy si uu hirgalo. Su,aasheeydii hore oo ahayd koonfurta centralka ha ha ku koobnaadaan dadka federalka rabana ha loo daayo maxaad ka tiri?