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Diffrence between West-Puntland/Ras Caseyr and Maakhir/Khaatumo

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To be honest erigavo was never disputed not in the the past not now there is no east west north erigavo there is one erigavo and one admin that runs the town ismaciil xaji Nurs admin in the early 90s it was Mujahid Talaabo and that's about it.In 1989 when SNM leader of Sanaag Axmed mire Maxamad nuux captured the town he set up a local SNM administration for 2 years this was before the declaration of independence in 1991.The Maakhir sultan is allowed in erigavo because he openly supports Somaliland the grand son of Sultan ali shire. The place how ever that is disputed is eastern sanaag in particularly dhahar and badhan.

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Somalina;789653 wrote:
What? how am I "promoting/supporting occupation of LA" ?

 

Do you have pics of Somalia's flag flying in Eastern Erigavo?.

Awoowo this was Erigavo

 

last 18 may

 

 

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AfricaOwn;789671 wrote:
^^ these guys are dishonest men.

Africa Own the Maakhir folks don't even consider ceerigaabo the capital city of Sanaag they call badhan the capital of Sanaag now and days:D

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^^xaaji xunjuf,

 

The point in all of this ( i hope you understand) is that unless you guys forget this recognition thing what happened in the south will visit northern provinces with full force. Erigavo is a multi clan city, and the political conflict surrounding it has not been settled yet. That it has been managed for the last twenty years does not mean that SNM clans will control the city conflict free. Put your ears on the ground, and you can hear the clannish avalanche beginning to move underneath , and with it you will be flushed to the outskirts of Sanaag as historically done before .

 

intaa waan soo ducaynaa in ilaahay nabada faafiyo, but you guys are fated for a big clash , and if Buuhoodle is anything to go by, you are not good at fighting as you project in online forums :D

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AsadSL   

A better question would be why don't any of you who claim "eastern erigaavo" so you say is not in control of somaliland. Show us the equivalent of what that video has shown a flag a military parade crowd and then just then maybe you'll sound a little credible. You are a desperate bunch there is no west east south erigavo just one and its under the peoples government. keep dreaming on the internet. My clan has been running the domestic affairs of the town since forever and its not going to change. Its ok to be mad;)

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Xiinfaniin Somaliland statehood is sacred for Somalilanders they made it clear so many times its non negotiable.The SNM leadership in Sanaag organized a separate conference for the Clans in Sanaag to come together in 1993. And we all know what was agreed on to live in peace next to each other, to live under the Somaliland flag and the constitution of the republic. Xiinfaniin in ceerigaabo there are decision makers and than there are just people who try to locate the capital of sanaag to another village called badhan.See you are comparing Ceerigaabo with Buuhoodle its wrong Ceerigaabo is SNM's tribal homeland the Great grand ancestor ina xaaji Nuur is buried inside ceerigaabo its self. So ceerigaabo is not the city that in dispute eastern sanaag (badhan dhahar) is get you're facts straight adeer. if you wave the Somaliland flag you're allowed in the city like the Sultan if you are not you will continue to live in exile and that's how its going to be.

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NASSIR   

Somalina, The SNM ragtag militia was defeated by Col. Du'ale and Gen. Jama Green. Erigabo remained under the full control of the Somali government until its collapse in 1991 or late 90. Thousands of Makhiris died in the SNM launched wars of Erigavo, with my own sub-sub-clan enduring the heaviest casualty. The wars had not ceased until the 1993 major peace conferences, which were held in Jidali and Shimbiraale towns of Western Sanaag.

 

Don't force me to post documents. Erigabo is ruled under that agreement whose violation could lead the communities in Erigavo away from the peace that they currently are blessed to have.

The politics of Erigavo governance is complicated and is based on mutual understanding. Priorities focus on maintaining the power balance

and stability.

 

 

Well said xiinfaniin.

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^^ You say its shared city again and again, we get it. Your status also says, Erigavo- Makhir. State? Does Erigavo belong in the region you call Makhir state is the main question dude.

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NASSIR;789689 wrote:
Somalina, The SNM ragtag militia was defeated by Col. Du'ale and Gen. Jama Green. Erigabo remained under the full control of the Somali government until its collapse in 1991 or late 90. Thousands of Makhiris died in the SNM launched wars of Erigavo, with my own sub-sub-clan enduring the heaviest casualty. The wars had not ceased until the 1993 major peace conferences, which were held in Jidali and Shimbiraale towns of Western Sanaag.

 

Don't force me to post documents. Erigabo is ruled under that agreement whose violation could lead the communities in Erigavo away from the peace that they currently are blessed to have.

The politics of Erigavo governance is complicated and is based on mutual understanding. Priorities focus on maintaining the power balance

and stability.

 

 

Well said xiinfaniin.

Wrong the SNM under Axmed mire attacked ceerigaabo in September in 1989 and it was not you who was fighting as a clan it was the SNA army that was doing the fighting the war continued for more than a month and a half and after that the SNA was cleaned from ceerigaabo.They tried to take back ceerigaabo in February in 1990 but they failed miserably and lost even more men the clan militia were no use for them either.There were many casualties on both sides i have to say but the defeated lot were the SNA, in-fact the SNM in late 1990s and 1991 they pushed all the way into eastern sanaag as far as hadaaftimo xingalool eastern sanaag territories and there were many wars unfortunately there. In 1993 it was the SNM who organized the conference for Umadaha Sanaag held in ceerigaabo capital of sanaag. And the accord was that the people of sanaag are part and parcel of Somaliland as agreed on in 1991 in burco, and that the various clans should live in peace and harmony under the Somaliland republic as they still do in 2012.

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Dr gaboose gets a welcome like this in ceerigaabo and he is not even from ceerigaabo eventhough he is an ethnic Somalilander but he is from Mudug but tribally he is closely related to the elites in ceerigaabo. While General Ilkajiir who was actually born in ceerigaabo cant visit ceerigaabo his birth place that's the reality, it looks like a Sultan Xirsi Amaans welcome with horses and stuff like in the mid 19 century.

 

 

 

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Taleexi   

Somalina: Gotcha you.

 

XX: You know pretty well the paradigm of politics of the city as NASSIR put it eloquently. Your bias and unsubstantiated reasoning is that Ilka Jiir who is an indigenous of Erigavo can not visit there but Dr. Gaboose who is Is-ak but from Hargeisa can visit there. Siilanyo and SNM government can not alter the dynamics of Erigavo. Why loo fulin waayey in reer Khaatumo hubka laga qaado markii Siilaanyo sidaa sheegay laba bilood ka hor?

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Taleexi hub aad la so gasheen ceerigaabo wala oga siday ku dhamatay sheekadasi intad isku so urursateen fiqifuliye iyo masagan tuulooyinkini dee waati akhirka nin walba kursigi u sanaag kulaha dib ugu fadhiistay:D

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