Mintid Farayar Posted February 24, 2012 NGONGE;794174 wrote: Bah. I sometimes like to mingle with the ordinary people and have a bit of banter, adeer. Ha o bixin. Though the play with words that you're having there matters. It sets two distinct sides (TFG/Somali government V Somaliland). Last week, the world did not recognise (at least openly) that such a distinction existed. This here (future, clarify or relations aside) sets a clear precedent and tells all sides (but mostly YOU) how things stand. The world is saying to you that they'll ban the charcoal, they'll increase the AMISOM numbers, they'll help with ending the transition but when it comes to SL they will only help in the dialogu to clarify future relations. Again, last week your argument was that the world does not recognise SL's case but today it is spelt out clearly to you and all the naysayers. The conference yesterday, allowed SL to be and focused on the problems of Somalia (south). It is time for all Somali unionists to change their tune, the old trick is not working. :D Ngonge, This is the elephant in the room that our fellow SOLers are desperately avoiding! 6.*** The Conference recognised the need for the international community to support any dialogue that Somaliland and the TFG or its replacement may agree to establish in order to clarify their future relations. Somaliland is not equated with the other aspiring federal states such as Puntland, Galmudug, etc. Those are all lumped together under 'the TFG or it's replacement'. So even the administration ruling 'Somalia' is under ambiguous prediction. But there's no ambiguity to Somaliland's existence or representation of the former British Somaliland territory. No acceptance of clan pseudo-states within Somaliland such as 'Khaatumo or Awdal'. Overall, an acceptance in an international dictat of the same position held by every successive Somaliland gov't since Egal's time - that Somaliland will only negotiate with a future legitimate Somalia gov't as two equals on future relations. And we all know what the redline is for any Somaliland administration on non-negotiable items. But overall, it's been amusing to see the usual opponents of Somaliland on this Forum spin the latest spin. 'Saarka ha ka soo degaan. U yara kaadiya.' it will take a few days for reality to hit. On the home front, Somaliland political parties will engage in the usual 'push and shove' in order to position themselves for the next round of elections. And Somalia will drop deeper into 'defacto' trusteeship. Ethiopia has just added key areas of Bay and Bakool to its HIiraan and Galgaduud holdings. Kenya is slowly expanding its slow Jubba and Gedo acquisitions while AMISOM (Ugandans and Burundians) expands out from the Mogadishu environs. The so-called Road Map had thus far sidestepped the Somaliland issue - which had previously puzzled me. Now all is clear after this conference in that the Somaliland talks are the last part of the puzzle. --- A position Somaliland can be comfortable with as long as it was Somaliland/Somalia talks, not Somaliland as one of many 'gobols'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted February 24, 2012 NGONGE;794174 wrote: Bah. I sometimes like to mingle with the ordinary people and have a bit of banter, adeer. Ha o bixin. Though the play with words that you're having there matters. It sets two distinct sides (TFG/Somali government V Somaliland). Last week, the world did not recognise (at least openly) that such a distinction existed. This here (future, clarify or relations aside) sets a clear precedent and tells all sides (but mostly YOU) how things stand. The world is saying to you that they'll ban the charcoal, they'll increase the AMISOM numbers, they'll help with ending the transition but when it comes to SL they will only help in the dialogu to clarify future relations. Again, last week your argument was that the world does not recognise SL's case but today it is spelt out clearly to you and all the naysayers. The conference yesterday, allowed SL to be and focused on the problems of Somalia (south). It is time for all Somali unionists to change their tune, the old trick is not working. What's was spelt out clear was that there was no recognition for the "breakway region"...and now you have to carry the burden for the problem from the southern regions, something you have been adamant that you wont do. All I have been hearing for the past 10 years is that you have nothing to do with south, and here you're been asked to build prisons for pirates from from South and East Somalia ...I called it earlier reverse unification. The only distinction between the Northern Region and Southern region is that there is peace in the North. This idea that you are some sort of "Sovereign Republic" is just a pipedream from too many night in a mafrish, sahib. :cool: P.s This is what Hillary Clinton said in her Press Conference...""We also believe in a unified Somalia...Our own country has 50 states" lol 15:36 Landers are only people who will still remain in denial even if reality slapped them in the face.:rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mario B Posted February 24, 2012 Mintid Farayal, "We also believe in a unified Somalia... " Hillary Clinton. :rolleyes: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted February 24, 2012 Stuff and Humous! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted February 24, 2012 Waaba bacaac miidhan kuwani ,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted February 24, 2012 Abtigiis nailed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted February 25, 2012 Freedom;794226 wrote: Dont argue and these haters will spin it to what they think it is. You can show them a blue box and they say it's green lool. Somaliland snydroum at its best They(fake unionists) live on triviality Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
