Faisal Ali Waraabe: Somaliland needs to adjust to new Somalia.

[Carafaat]

NGONGE;782254 wrote:

No idea what that means. Are you talking about the London thing again?

Come out and talk and engage with Somalia, Londen or somewhere else. any dialogue or talking is fine by me.

[Carafaat]

Oodweyne;782266 wrote:

What faisal seemed to be saying; is that, we need to a step-up in our game. Particularly from position of muddled-thinking to one of clear-as-a-day-clarity, indeed. In other words, although, I wish he wasn't as scattered-brain where some issues are concern, but in here is a "discreet criticism" of the current elected government and her approach of many fronts.

 

And in that “context" it's not only him who think like that. But, many political elites back in Hargeisa are thinking the same; but are diplomatic to say so openly. Hence, the reason he decided to chance to tell the feeling of many about the current government and her "not-so-clear" of where they stand on many issues; particularly, in so public of a manner, indeed.

 

And in that consider it as useful as the public service that he has “performed” in here. Which means, his is similar, in particularly, to in the manner in which the various awkward group of the "Tory right" in here of UK play in the conscious of the England's body-politic.

 

And that is, essentially, a way of warning, any government in UK, when, the “political sentiment” of where they stand with the interest of UK is at “variant” as to where it should be, at the end of the day.

 

I told you the Foreign Minister is unexperienced and weak. Siilanyo needs to fire him asap.

[NGONGE]

Carafaat;782268 wrote:

Come out and talk and engage with Somalia, Londen or somewhere else. any dialogue or talking is fine by me.

Now or in August?

 

p.s.

Guru, you seem to have been swept away in the moment (just like Eng. Faisal). Nothing is as drastic as it seems, saaxib. Take a step back and view the situation from a distance, guru. Wa isla iyaadii, saaxib.

[Che -Guevara]

^LOL, we haven't seen Oodweyne little shaken before.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

NGONGE;782274 wrote:

Now or in August?

 

p.s.

Guru, you seem to have been swept away in the moment (just like Eng. Faisal). Nothing is as drastic as it seems, saaxib. Take a step back and view the situation from a distance, guru. Wa isla iyaadii, saaxib.

Talk about what exactly carafaat keeps talking about talking he sounds like oprah Winfrey or Dr phil.

 

habar cajalad liqday baad mooda

[Carafaat]

NGONGE;782274 wrote:

Now or in August?

 

p.s.

Guru, you seem to have been swept away in the moment (just like Eng. Faisal). Nothing is as drastic as it seems, saaxib. Take a step back and view the situation from a distance, guru. Wa isla iyaadii, saaxib.

Indeed, August would be an ideal month.

 

Ileyn Odaygan Ngonge, waa siyaasi khatar ah. :D

[MoonLight1]

I thought Oody recovered from the Buuhoodle right hook, but I think he is still seeing some stars.

[NGONGE]

^^ Heh. War I have a few harsh words of my own against our illustrious leader (with all that Oromo deportation, arresting of Journalists, etc). Even on this issue, I fully disagree with his deployment of the army there. So, no, I am fully on your side when it comes to criticising the shortcomings of this government.

 

However, I believe that many people got caught up in the bubble that is Khaatumo and don't think Faisal's overreaction is merited here, saaxib. Bal adigu try to view the landsacpe and tell me what exactly has changed today?

 

- Skirmishes between the SL army and the SSC? We've had these before.

- Khaatumo Unity? We've had that before and not until they openly aknowledge the cracks within and the role their kin on the SL side play will they have full unity.

- A lopsided Khaatumo admin? War maxa cusub dee?

- Noise coming from all parts of Somalia about the imminent collapse of SL? "ii wad sheekada" iska dheh

- Conferences attempting to fix Somalia? Now that's a first!

 

Marka, aside from the excitable chatter of in the 'Somali/Somaliland Street', what exactly is new or different here?

 

It'll pass, saaxib.

[MoonLight1]

hahaha. Oody keep the good work bro. but banging your head on a wall is hazardous. Faysal just got bleeding.

[NGONGE]

Oodweyne;782299 wrote:

Ngonge

,

 

I agree with you on substance sense. But, the trouble is politics, in nine tent sense, is about optics and forcing the "narrative" of that same chatter (in which you and I, knows, will take a walk, when the reality hit the road, or as Baashi used to say around here: when the rubber meets the road), in your favour.

 

In other words, I agree with you, in substance sense; for we are still the ones with the political cards in here. But, I wish we should be on the on offensive on the optics side of things; as well as "forcing-the-narrative" of the situation in our favour. Hence, the original genesis of my particular criticism, as well as the angle in which I am coming from, indeed.

I understand your position and if it were PL that you have a dispute with, I would see why you would want the government to flex its muscles a bit. However, these problems are with people the SL government (no, YOU) consider fellow citizens. It would be a sad day in the history of SL if we go back to the days when the government bombards any dissenting voices and tries to shut them up by the power of the gun. Remember, you don't support SL because it has "borders to close" nor becuase it's the strongest bully in town. I am assuming you support SL for higher asperations and goals (democracy, freedom, justice, etc). None of these things could ever be achieved if we were trigger happy and always on the attack, saaxib.

[Carafaat]

NGONGE;782311 wrote:

I understand your position and if it were PL that you have a dispute with, I would see why you would want the government to flex its muscles a bit.

However, these problems are with people the SL government (no, YOU) consider fellow citizens. It would be a sad day in the history of SL if we go back to the days when the government bombards any dissenting voices and tries to shut them up by the power of the gun.

Remember, you don't support SL because it has "borders to close" nor becuase it's the strongest bully in town. I am assuming you support SL for higher asperations and goals (democracy, freedom, justice, etc). None of these things could ever be achieved if we were trigger happy and always on the attack, saaxib.

Well said, sxb. Clearly we belong to the same xisbi here.

[NGONGE]

^^ No we're not. You are in the 'cagta ku walaq' xisbi and not even Che is in your party.

[Carafaat]

Ngonge, the days I feel like a Somalilander I am with your xisbi. like it or not.

During my other Koonfurions days I am with Somalina's Xisbi.

 

Che, xisbi uma baahna, xabsi ayuu rabaa.