double standards used by Somaliland

[Carafaat]

I dont understand why Somaliland and its leaders rather visit Djibouti and talk with Djiboutian dictator Ismail Omar Gulleh, who doesnt recongnize Somaliland, tried to destroy the port of Berbera/Somaliland's economy and obviously profited from Somaliland/Somalia's misfortunes. Then talk with Sheick Shariif of Somalia or why Puntland is potrayed as an enemy while goods and people can freely enter between Sland and Pland, and Djibouti clearly obstructs people while transitting the country. Clearly. There is no logic in that.

 

I call it double standards.

[Jacaylbaro]

Welcome to the madness of the politics .....

[Carafaat]

it clearly shows the west orientated Borama-Hargeysa folks dominate the SL politics rather the eastern folks, who have the most interest in good relations, trade links and peace with Puntland and Somalia.

[Mintid Farayar]

Carafaat;782168 wrote:

it clearly shows the west orientated Borama-Hargeysa folks dominate the SL politics rather the eastern folks, who have the most interest in good relations, trade links and peace with Puntland and Somalia.

Once again, Carafaat, you show how out of touch you are. Current Somaliland leadership hails from the Eastern regions and has close, personal links with the East.

 

But that's politics all over the world, as JB said. Why doesn't the U.S. have political relations with Cuba instead of the strong alliances it has with Japan and South Korea?

[Carafaat]

Mintid, I lived for 2 years in that place. the leader might be from east. But the policies and perceptions of SL are absolutely completely out of touch with what is happening in the East of the country. desicsions are taking in Hargeysa by people who have NO idea what kind of effect it has on the communities living in Burco and east of it. Folks in Hargeysa are always the ones screeming the loudest to close the (eastern)border, while they have Idea of the consequences.

 

But that is what you get when you have one clan dominated politics. It gets completely out of touch with the world and only focussing on eachothers side of city "daan". Tell me Mintid, when was your last time in Burco or Erigavo? I was there in 2009 and you?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Simple ismaciil cumar geele is a neighbor ethnic somalilanders do live in djbouti in big numbers.

Somalilanders do not live in somalia there is absolutely nothing that connects them other than a language.

By the way the garowe clan enclave is a criminal entity somaliland does not want to be associated with pirates.

[Carafaat]

Oodweyne;782199 wrote:

And that is why the Khaatumo concoction, and its political progenitor, by the name of Taleex Conference, were allowed to happen. Or at least, by default (in the sense of not sending the army to disrupt it, when it was happening) was allowed to go ahead, indeed.

 

Hence, the political “prize” we are currently paying from that “close relationship”, in which the highest leadership of our nation have with those who are intend in creating a standing havoc in Somaliland. Or to put it, differently, I very much doubt, that UDUB leadership (in their day at leadership of Somaliland), would of have been so “openly nonchalant” about this thing, as the current leadership of the current elected government seemed to be.

 

Particularly about this nuisance of a political agenda, in which, the enemies of Somaliland are concocting in here in so open manner indeed.

 

But, for what is worth, we shall see whether the political hand in which the current loeadership of Somaliland are trying in here (a softly-softly version of a political conduct); coupled with a diplomatic “hide-and-seek” (or at any rate not full-throatily defending) Somaliland’s central independence argument, where our friends are concern, is likely to be any more fruitfully for them, come next year this time around..

 

In other words, we shall see how the “leadership” square these issues.

Oodweyne, your hawkish approach has not brought any compromise. Siilanyo has every right to be soft or hold account with the people in the region in his policies. And belief me also our clan family members from Sool, Sanaag and togdheer would benefit from any settlement with the eastern community, Puntland and with Somalia. Those regions are the least development, no need to keep the status quo of cold war going.

 

the clan solidarity of the eastern community in Sool, Sanaag and Toghdeer hasnt brought those regions any benefit. To a quote a good friend of mine who was born, raised from Erigavo and clanwise from western/northern Erigavo, "Economic wise it would have been much better for us, if we would join Puntland rather then Somaliland."

 

And if I was from those regions, I rather be the trading centre/route of two strong regions in one country(Somaliland/Somalia), then the current hinterland it is fom a western orientated Hargeysa/Borama/Djibouti region.

[Mintid Farayar]

Oodweyne;782199 wrote:

And that is why the Khaatumo concoction, and its political progenitor, by the name of Taleex Conference, were allowed to happen. Or at least, by default (in the sense of not sending the army to disrupt it, when it was happening) was allowed to go ahead, indeed.

 

Hence, the political “prize” we are currently paying from that “close relationship”, in which the highest leadership of our nation have with those who are intend in creating a standing havoc in Somaliland. Or to put it, differently, I very much doubt, that UDUB leadership (in their day at leadership of Somaliland), would of have been so “openly nonchalant” about this thing, as the current leadership of the current elected government seemed to be.

 

Particularly about this nuisance of a political agenda, in which, the enemies of Somaliland are concocting in here in so open manner indeed.

 

But, for what is worth, we shall see whether the political hand in which the current loeadership of Somaliland are trying in here (a softly-softly version of a political conduct); coupled with a diplomatic “hide-and-seek” (or at any rate not full-throatily defending) Somaliland’s central independence argument, where our friends are concern, is likely to be any more fruitfully for them, come next year this time around..

 

In other words, we shall see how the “leadership” square these issues.

Guru Oodweyne,

 

Don't be fooled by the diatribes you read here on SOL or on the Web. Remember the former Somalia has had 3 power poles of gravity since independence and the bulk of the diaspora for the last 20 years has been mainly composed of those hailing from one of those 3 power poles(those you famously coined as "the defeated lot"). They often paint a picture quite different from the realities on the ground. The Somaliland leadership is fully aware of the sensitivity of the current situation and is engaged in consultations with those who matter on the ground.

[Che -Guevara]

^LooooooooooL You are being super paranoid.

[Mintid Farayar]

I completely understand your point, Oodweyne. But they are politicians at the end of the day in a vote-based system and, like all such systems, are always vigilant to which direction the popular wind is blowing. We will see how this plays out. The UK is pulling all the stops to get the attendance of all Somali stake-holders to the Conference. Your point in previous posts re:the UK's motivation for the Conference was spot on!

[Carafaat]

Oodweyne;782307 wrote:

^^

Got your point. But, lets hope our democratic and electroral politics will favour the "hard-line-policy" in which many of us believe, is the only currency our enemies understand

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In othetr words, lets hope the electroral ground will be sufficient of pulling force for the leadership, particularly in to the direction in which many of us, still, believe is the only "engagement" our enemies so singularly deserve from us in here; if you get my drift..

And risk to disfrenchise many Somalilanders.