Abtigiis Posted January 21, 2012 http://wardheernews.com/Articles_12/Jan/Mukhtar/20_Hiil_Qaran_Indegenous_Ideas_Organic_Leaders.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted January 21, 2012 Wax Ingiriis kaliya lagu qoray haddana la rabo Soomaalida lagu gabaabiyo ayaaba la yaabaa. Afsoomaaliga ha lagu qoro ama hala iska dhaafo maadaama qoraalka ku socdo dadka Soomaaliyeed, una sharxaayo ururka siyaasadeed wuxuu yahay iyo wuxuu soo kordhin karo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted January 21, 2012 MMA, Soomali xalaal ah oo aan xaasid aheyn inaad tahay waxaan ku ogaaday markaad Hiil-Qaran taageertay. Qoraaladu dadka intellectuals ka ah ayuu target gareeynayaa, markaa wa Ok english. Gabayadaa kaga haboon dhinaca bulshada kale. Samir badan uma leh soomalidu wax akhriska. Gabay fiican baa ku jira website'ka Hiil-Qaran. Anyway, turjum kana oo meel ku dhaji. Although the two terms may sometimes coincide, ruling is fundamentally different from governing. Governors are gate-keepers and operators of prescribed structures/institutions of rule, whilst rulers conceive, proffer and shape the ideas, ideals and aspirations that govern societies. In the past two decades, Somalia has been governed (misgoverned) by Somalis, but was and continues to be ruled by foreign ideas. These foreign ideas have mutated into a conventional wisdom that codify the frames of discussions on politics and State reconstruction in Somalia. This is not to exculpate Somalis from culpability for their predicament, but to stress the ruinous role foreign ideas played in assisting Somalis in their self-immolation and national hara-kiri. One such ruling foreign idea is that Somalis can only organize themselves along clan lines. The other ruling idea, which is the sequel to the first idea, is that clan-based Regionalism/Federalism is the panacea for Somalia’s governance ills. These ideas are relentlessly marketed by foreigners and their Somali accomplices, that it has, today, assumed hegemonic status. Influential players and pundits in the politics of Somalia subscribe to these ideas. The Gramscian exposition of hegemony is strikingly evident in the present-day Somalia, and these ruling foreign ideas have become ‘common sense’ and ‘natural’, voluntarily accepted by the subordinated silent majority. The point to emphasize is that “political rulers” (mainly foreigners) in Somalia found and built their monopoly of power on this system of ideas based on clan and partition, and “political governors” (Somalis) validate and legitimize themselves through processes sired by the selfsame structure of ideas. The birth of Hiil Qaran Party in 2011 was the first real challenge to this cycle of recycling failed and foreign ideas as a solution to the political problems of Somalia. This political party, founded by prominent Somali intellectuals, political leaders, and elders, is about galvanizing the grassroots for a common vision of a unified and democratic Somalia, governed by rules firmly grounded on Somali and Islamic values. More importantly, it is about reclaiming the ownership of the ruling ideas that will guide and direct current and future political search for a unified, sovereign State in Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 24, 2012 http://www.macalester.edu/internationalstudies/samatar.html I have just finished Samater's article on Governance and Transition from 2007. It analyses very detailed how this went wrong in establishing a central goverment. It's by far the most independent academic analysis on Somalia challenges and Opportunities to establish a central goverment. Offering alternatives that would offer A workable goverment based on ideological compromises. Many have underestimated and misunderstood the good professor in the post, me included. Because I have not took the liberty to read his academic work but judged him soley on his Short articles which mostly only contained his conclusions and some wrongly chosen examples And wordings. But when you read his academic work, you will understand the vision and idea's Of the man. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted April 24, 2012 Brother Carafaat, Abdi and Ahmed are the only real somali professors. Bal wax ay galaydh iyo jimcaale qoreen oo micno leh i soo tus. Somalida xasadkaa ku badan ee these men are in the top league in the academic world. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukulaalow Posted April 24, 2012 Abtigiis, Is prof Abdi a member of the party as well? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 24, 2012 ^^ Yes he is Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dr_Osman Posted April 24, 2012 Ironic cilmo samatar didn't come up with Hiil qaran when rayale was in power or am I missing something? Ma hada ayaad baratay qaran? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 24, 2012 Dr osman the Samatar brothers come from a great lineage in Somaliland both on their paternal and Maternal side the Sultan of Awdal is their first cousin Suldaan Jamac Ibrahim Samatar.The Samatar brothers believe in a Confederate state for the Somali republic where everything is shared equally between Somaliland and Somalia they never support leaders based on Qabil. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted April 24, 2012 "Blunt language cannot hide a banal conception” James Wolcott warns, ditoore. It is utterly predictable false doctors would hate the samatars. All the mediocre academicians nurse their affected self-worth through bashing those who have left them behind in thought and intellect. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted April 24, 2012 Ditoorku waxan ma fahmi karo, isaga iyo faroolihiisuba ee muu iska daayo. Samatars can teach faroole, abdiweli, and dr osman with their left brain. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted April 24, 2012 Abtigiis;822535 wrote: "Blunt language cannot hide a banal conception” James Wolcott warns, ditoore. It is utterly predictable false doctors would hate the samatars. All the mediocre academicians nurse their affected self-worth through bashing those who have left them behind in thought and intellect. :D Fake phd holders Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted April 24, 2012 Abtigiis, I am quite impressed with their academic work, their analysis of the Somali governance issue's as well as the alternative and workable options. I don't think Somali's are xasidiin. But rather a chauvinistic people with proleratariat tendencies, where classes, achievements and excellence are not recongnized but rather 'equalized' because of the constant clan competition. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted April 24, 2012 Farmajo's Tayo party has more qaacida shacbiyah than this HiilQaran thing, Professor Abtigiis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted July 20, 2012 " frameborder="0" allowfullscreen> Professor Ahmed Samatar speaks about his return to Mogadishu, and his vision for the future of the city and the nation which surrounds it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites