Khalaf Posted October 5, 2006 We all know and heard those Nasheeds- Sami Yusuf and Islamic beats right. Ive seen ppl rocking to um...ppl see it as not big deal....lighten up dude. But it got me thinking. If I ask this question what will be your answer: Who should we as Muslims follow? Your answer rightfully would be the Messenger of Allah pbuh and his companions. Because the Quran says: "Indeed you have in the Messenger of Allaah an excellent example for the one who hopes in Allaah and looks to the Last Day." I have studied the Seerah of the Prophet and read stories of the Companions and I find men and women who were dedicated to learning, memorizing and reciting the Quran all the time and acting upon it(Shame on us-including myself! how many memorized songs but not the ayats of Allah). No where did I find incidents where they-the companions were listening to beats which has Islamic lyrics to increase ibadah! Allah knows best but I think these Nasheeds-Islamic music are innovations although the ppl who make it or those who listen to it may have good intentions. Why-because ppl are dedicating time to listening to these lyrics Islamic though may be...but not learning the Greatest Guidance: The Book of Allah. Think about these hadiths as it relates to the popularity of “Islamic Pop Culture-those islamic songs, HIP Hop, nasheeds, ectâ€: "Whosoever does an action which we have not commanded then it will be rejected," [Muslim] and also, "Whosoever introduces into this religion of ours that which is not part of it then it must be rejected." [Ahmad] Rasulallaah sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam said, "I warn you of the newly invented-matters (in the religion), and every newly-invented matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance, and every misguidance is in Hellfire." [an-Nisaa'ee] Hudhayfah ibn al-Yaman said, "Every act of worship which the Companions did not do, do not do it." [Abu Dawud] Abdullah bin 'Umar said, "Every innovation is misguidance, even if the people regard it as good." [ad- Daarimee] Marka think about that ppl: Although this may be seen as not big deal it is big deal: we the Muslims should reject anything which we didnt find the Messenger and his companions doing. We should strive hard to memorize the Quran and not lyrics of Sami Yusuf. And Allah Knows Best. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Urban Posted October 6, 2006 I disagree 100% Nasheeds aren't bid'a (innovations), It's the use of modern instruments in the 'songs'. When the Prophet scw returned to Makkah from the Madina, (Fatxu Makkah in arabic), people were singing 'Talacal badru calayna). Have you heard of 'Ghaswat al-khandaq'(battle of the trench)? When the muslims in madinah were digging a huge trench infront of the entrance of the madinah to stop qureish invading the madinah, their morale was very low and the Prophet scw had to do something about it. So he called for a guy who was a good poet and told him come up with a poem to lift the men up and encourage them. Through out the whole event (digging the trenches) the men were singing/chanting to lift the morale higher. Correct me if the above is wrong. I dont have any links of ahadeeth or evidence from the internet, I've heard this in one of Amr Khaled's lectures. Wa'llahu aclam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
StarGazer Posted October 6, 2006 Assalamu Alaikum, I've noticed that more and more muslims are becoming inspired and welcoming the arts into their lives. I don't know where we got the notion that a good form of music, in this case nasheeds, is prohibited in Islam. Alhamdulilah, that's all changing. Yusuf Islam, a.k.a. Cat Stevens has picked up his guitar....Alhamdulilah. I'll post more on this topic in a future date Insha Allah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalaf Posted October 7, 2006 Salaam Urban we agree then. Weather halal or haram I wont say Allah Knows best.....all I am saying is the way of our religion is the Quran and sunnah...nothing else is needed....in particular if it is excessive such as spending money, going to shows, the ppl who perform the shows...learning one ayat is more beneficial...so why not learn the Quran instead of songs? "And whosoever turns away from the remembrance of the Most Beneficent (Allaah), We appoint for him Satan to be a companion for him. [43:36]." That is why u see Muslims committing sins....turning away of the Quran youre an easy target to do haram. Originally posted by Tami: Assalamu Alaikum, I've noticed that more and more muslims are becoming inspired and welcoming the arts[/b} into their lives. I don't know where we got the notion that a good form of music, in this case nasheeds, is prohibited in Islam. Alhamdulilah, that's all changing. First: Tami u refered to it as “artâ€....do u know how satan misleads human-beings? As the Quran informs us and the story of Adama and Hawa: he makes bad deeds appear good and gives good names to it even though Allah clearly prohibits it. Example: movies, music, dancing, illicit paintings/photos are called “artâ€....while following deen and being moral, dedicated to religion is called oldfashioned, outdated, uncool. Second u said its "all changing" well the Prophet said: “ From among my followers there will be some people who will consider illegal sexual intercourse , the wearing of silk , the drinking of alcoholic drinks & the use of musical instruments as lawful.. ( Sahih Al bukhari , Vol 7 ) even though its unlawful and Allah Knows Best Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashafa Posted October 7, 2006 Khalaf(don't call your kids Ubaya or Umaya ) There's nothing wrong with beats, as long as they're percussion instruments: drums, synthetic beats etc. As for the Hadeeth it says "Macaazif" which has been translated as instruments such as: flute, piano, violin etc. As Urban noted, there's been many occasions in the Seerah, where the Companions and the Prophet would hold the arabic equivalent of freestyle sessions. Poets would come and let it rip, and the Prophet would praise them. Of course, these poets weren't rappin about booty and bling-bling, but they were engaged in something artistic, whether it was defending the Prophet and budding Muslim community against Quraysh's insults, or just morale-building chants. Art, in itself, isn't the problem. It's a natural human instinct that can't be suppresed. Art gone wrong is what we, as Muslims, need to watch out for. My brother is taking a Art Appreciation class(ie, they've gotta to refine their artistic tastes before graduating, you know, high-level art: opera, theatre, the good stuff ), and basically the class revolves around looking at pictures of pre-colonial African idols and ooohing and aaahing over it. That's art gone wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites