Islam Can Make Somalia Strong

[Thierry.]

“The latter part of the Ummah will never be reformed except by that which reformed the former part”

Imaam Maalik bin Anas

 

Over 1400 years ago a message, a away of life was reignited to a people who where the worst of civilisations, their disunity and tribalism hatred would make any society grate full for the little they have as a common denominator.

This is a society that subjugated women to basic commodities, the slaves where treated in unbearable circumstances, and a society where infant girls where buried to the extent that when the Khalifah Umar Al Khattab remembers burying his little daughter as she was cleaning the dust of his beard.

 

Islam changed these people from anarchist pagans to the most uniformed and merciful community to ever walk on the face of this globe. The single thing that united these people is their belief in the one God the creator of the heavens and earth and everything in between. These people submitted to the laws sent by their creator to his final messenger Muhammed (saw).

 

Islam through the legislation of the Quran and the Saheeh Sunnah of Allah and his Messenger helped these people to come to a common understanding to a place where disputes are settled and how true are the words of Allah when he says:

 

“But no by your Lord, they can have no faith, until they make you judge in all disputes between them, and find in themselves no resistance against your decision and accept them with full submission” [an-Nisaa (4);65]

 

In the current era how true are the words of Imaam ibn Anas when he said reform can only occur by that which reformed their pious predecessors.

 

Sheikh Albaani said this era for Muslims is a time of Purification and cleansing the belief in the one God who created everything it is only then that the necessary steps can be taken to implement the other branches of the faith, Somalia along with all other Muslim nations have become footloose, the basic tenant of the faith the belief in the one God has become a secondary subject, rather this what need to be deeply embedded before other aspect of the faith can be implemented.

 

Tribalism existed long before Somalia was born however Islam abolished it with the single universal message.

The Islam made those generations of Muslims the most economically prosperous people in history, it is Islam that pioneered globalisation to the extent that a thousand years ago you could bank a check issued in Andalusia in Indonesia.

 

Trading was wide spread as a consequence of Islam.

 

Islam is the pioneers of education the House of Wisdom in Baghdad is a witness to that, some of the most revolutionary scientifically break through was invented by Muslim scientist and mathematicians, from the camera that you use on your holidays to the soap that you take a shower with every morning.

 

 

So let us ask our self’s is it because of Islam that Somalia and the rest of the Muslim is in such a pathetic state or the lack of it

[Taliban]

Originally posted by Thierry:

So let us ask our self’s is it because of Islam that Somalia and the rest of the Muslim is in such a pathetic state or the lack of it

Of course, most definitely lack of it. The enemies of Islam plot, conspire and try hard to extinguish nowadays Islamic awakenings. However, they are only delaying the inevitable. Allahu Akbar.

[FatB]

islam can make somalia strong.... hmm well i gues that the UIC that have been so brutally defeated had the rong islam then eh?

 

lest stop kidding ourselfs, islam has returned to being a stranger. how can we have a nation ruled and goverend by islam when ever one has their little side dealings....

 

i see somalia at a cross roads right now. we can choose to returne to the islam that was, or have a democratic "liberal" goverment that draws much of its laws form islam.

[Taliban]

Originally posted by tHe oNe aNd OnLy:

we can choose to returne to the islam that was

Explain the difference between the islam that was and the rong islam of the ICU.

[nemo]

Originally posted by tHe oNe aNd OnLy:

or have a democratic "liberal" goverment that draws much of its laws form islam.

Here we go again :rolleyes: Why can't we just have an "islamic government" that fellows the quran and sunnah. We as muslims have strick rules, step by step and most of all an example to fellow (the prophet peace and blessing be upon him). We just need to fellow them. Now is that so hard?

[Taliban]

Originally posted by nameless_chick:

Now is that so hard?

It's not hard. However, we have to get approval from the West. If the West disapproves, it means we can't have Islamic government.

[FatB]

Actually it is rather hard. would you consider Somalia Pre 1990 an Islamic country? with the level of our iiman at this day and age, i guarantee you that very few people will adhere 100% to the shari'a. one only has to look at any Nation and their economic structure to understand how hard and almost impossible it is to have a genuine Islamic nation. in this globolised environment...

[Fabregas]

What do you mean liberal government? If you were to set up a shop in Somalia and attempt to sell alcohol, you will certainly be arrested and that majority of the people will disapprove of your actions. These isn't the case in many Islamic/Muslims states.

[Taliban]

Originally posted by tHe oNe aNd OnLy:

with the level of our iiman at this day and age, i guarantee you that very few people will adhere 100% to the shari'a.

Sharia' requires enforcement; people will have no choice other than adhering to it. With Sharia', there will be no dating, night clubs, liquor stores, breweries, brothels, iwm. Harsh punishment (corporal, fine, iwm) will be administered to anyone caught with a violation.

[FatB]

oh i get it, we crack down on liquor stores, brothels and what not, but dabble in ribba. i guess fornicating with your mother is a better option than drinking alcohol...

[Fabregas]

There are no liquour stores in Somalia, brothels etc.....

[rudy-Diiriye]

u mean no mo caashaa waal!! well, tfg will be out of there voluntererily! looool.

 

cheeruus! tfg!!

[nemo]

Originally posted by tHe oNe aNd OnLy:

one only has to look at any Nation and their economic structure to understand how hard and almost impossible it is to have a genuine Islamic nation. in this globolised environment...

So you are saying that its impossible to have a genunine islamic nation? If thats your answer, thoughts like these are why its hard for us. The first muslims prove that its possible and we should be looking at how they made it. The simplest answer is they FELLOWED the quarn and sunnah. Imagine in those times, you are new to the religion and you have to build an islamic nation, while at the same time the quran was still being handed down to you.

 

We have it easier and should be taking advantage about it and not making excuses. Allah did not only hand this beautiful religion to those earlier muslims but to all mankind. Allah knows the 21st century and the difficulties that come with it.

 

With every difficulties there comes ease and Vise versa

PS We muslims can still build a well developed islamic nation, even if the west disagree with it. The key word is UNITE. Just look at Malaysia, they are coping with this "globolised ebvironment".

 

And Allah knows best.

[Taliban]

Originally posted by Geel_Jire12:

There are no liquour stores in Somalia, brothels etc.....

Liquor was sold before the ICU. There were home breweries which were destroyed after the ICU took over Somalia. There were porno movies shown at cinemas or makeshift cinemas; banned after the ICU took over Somalia. And there were brothels; if not official, unofficial brothels. The bottom line, under the rule of the warlords or secular governments (i.e. TFG), legalizing what's haram is a certainty.

[FatB]

lol, nameless, Malaysia is as Islamic as Melbourne!

 

lets not kid ourselves, my point is and i belief most people would agree that builiding an islamic nation is not only, the prophet did this and that, yes; (scw) did provide divine guidnes for us to suceed not in this world by the hear after as well

 

the previous Islamic dynasties traded in gold and silver, hard currency that were not susceptible to outside influences, thus all profits and loses were real, debt was debt, black was black... we live in an interest based society were everything is influenced by inflation and fiscal or monetary policies.

 

until the current economic systems crash, mind you by the way were going it might be sooner rather than later, we can not hope to build a 100% Islamic country...