We must all support the Talex unity conference

[Che -Guevara]

Ya xaad la ilka cadayne xumoo fildaraneh..

[Liibaan]

Carafaat;770211 wrote:

Taa ingriiska iska dhaaf. Laakinse adiga iyo anigu hadaanan ku heeshinin deegaanka, tuuloyinka iyo magaaloyinka aanu wada dagno. Ma shir Somaliweyn ayaan ku wada heshiin. Hadee siyasadu sidaa tahay, boqolaalkii shir ee Somaliweyn, 20kii sano ugu dambeeyay waxbaa kasoo bixi lahaa.

Beesha Daraawiish Somaliweyn ayee taageersantahay, oo wadankaa Somalia ayee ka mid tahay, hadii beesha snm diiday inay ka mid noqoto Somalia, taa ayedee u taal.

 

Hadii daacad iyo xaqdoon tahay waa la hishiin, dhibaatada waxaa keenaya Somaliland/snm waxa ee ku doodayaan dhulkii Ingriiska guumeestay sida Israel ugu doodaso Palestine waxa nasiiyey ingriis , Xabashiduna ugu doodasa Galbeedka Somalia waxa nasiiyey Ingriis, kenyana ugu doodaso NFD waxa nasiiyey Ingriis, India ugu doodaso Kashmiir waxa nasiiyey Ingriis, etc Somaliland/snm waa la mid, oo waxee ku doodasaa SSC, Awdal, iyo Maakhir Ingriis baa nasiiyey, oo si uu qabiilka snm ictiraaf/aqoonsi u helo waa inaanu dagaal ku qaadnaa soomaalida jaar nala ah.

 

Hadii aad leedahay dhulka waqooyiga Somalia oo dhan waa lawadaagaa, dee hadaba maaha in beel oo kaliya sheegato oo dhahdo waan goosanyaa dhul ee beelo midnimada taageersan la wadaagaan, dalka Somalia lama kala goyn karo hadii beeluhu dhulka oo dhan wadaagaan.

 

 

Dhulka ee Beesha Daraawiishtu degto inta badan lama wadaago, waxaa jira dhul ee beel kasta gaar u leedahay, dhulka beesha daraawiishta lama wadaago, Laascaanood lama wadaago, Somaliland waa ku khaldaneed inay dagaal ku qaado, Yaqoori lama waago, Adhicadeeye lama wadaago, Buhoodle lama wadaago, Widhwidh lama wadaago, Bali hadhac lama wadaago, Dhumay lama wadaago, Kalabaydh lama wadaago, Saxdheer lama wadaago, Dharkeyn lama wadaago, Boocame lama wadaago, Tukaraq lama wadaago, Karin Dabeylweyn lama wadaago, Xudun lama wadaago, Figifuliye lama wadaago, Las qorey lma wadaago, Dhahar lama wadaago, Badhan lama wadaago, etc

 

Dhowrka tuulo ee yar yar ee la wadaago oo xadka beelaha ku dhaca, waa laga hishiin karaa. Likiin in beesha snm sheegato dhulkii beesha daraawiish oodhan waa dulmi, xaqdaro, hunguri, badnaan.

[The Hermet]

The union between Somaliland and Somalia was a voluntery union...its was signed or ratified therefore Somaliland can legally leave the union with Somalia because it was never ratified in the first place therefore nothing legally binds Somaliland from not disolving the union with Somalia. You should do some research before speaking. On the other hand in 1991 the clans of Somaliland after many months of talking legally agreed to disolve the voluntary union with Somalia and re-establish Somaliland, forget the past and create a functioning state that is built for all. Simple as the signatures included the Garads of all the so called "SSC" clans so "SSC" has no legal leg to stand on...An agreement is an agreement. Signed and sworn on. to now say ohhhh we dont agree to it anymore does not work. Every agreement is enforceable even in a court of law. Therefore with or without any declaration of an SSC regional entity Somaliland will and has the legal right to its entire territory. and sorry to burst your unionst dreams but this also means by FORCE IF NEED BE.

[Peace Action]

Peace Action, no need to. I am sure after Kh2 Somaliland and SSC will talk and merge and if SSC insists on Somali Unity, I am sure Siilaanyowill give it to them and hand hand we will together seek Unity.

and then

 

Carafaat;770220 wrote:

The Hermet you are right. did you know Ali Khaliif Galeyr and Garaad Abdiqani(aun) were present and signed the agreement at the Burco and Borama Conferences of 1991 and 1993.

See Carafaat you filp floped, you are worse than Romney . Your first answer came from you brain and the second one from your heart.

[Liibaan]

Carafaat;770220 wrote:

The Hermet you are right. did you know Ali Khaliif Galeyr and Garaad Abdiqani(aun) were present and signed the agreement at the Burco and Borama Conferences of 1991 and 1993.

Stop the lies, both Ali Khaliif and Garaad Abdiqani AUN said we never signed SNM Clan secession. They said we signed peace treaty with snm clan.

 

If somaliland/snm clan-faction can secede from the Internationally Recognized Republic of Somalia, People of SSC can secede from unrecognized clan-faction of Somaliland

 

 

If one faction have the ability to cancel the union agreement of 1960, SSC people should the right to cancel the fake agreement of 1991 as well.

 

 

If Somalia is divisible, the territories of former British Somali Colony are divisible as well.

 

Awdal State, Maakhir,State, and SSC State all have the right of self-determination.

[The Hermet]

It all comes down to two things....We ethier except the legal arguments and live as two seperate states or we destroy each other ending whats left of the somali race. Simple as walahi in the long run thats the only choice you guys really have.

[The Hermet]

In the name of Allah Ali Galyd was present in Burco in 1991 and in Borama and took part in the Somaliland conference and signed it along with the Garads of SSC, its seems these unionists live in such a bubble they refuse to except reality.

[Che -Guevara]

The Hermet;770228 wrote:

The union between Somaliland and Somalia was a voluntery union...its was signed or ratified therefore Somaliland can legally leave the union with Somalia because it was never ratified in the first place therefore nothing legally binds Somaliland from not disolving the union with Somalia. You should do some research before speaking. On the other hand in 1991 the clans of Somaliland after many months of talking legally agreed to disolve the voluntary union with Somalia and re-establish Somaliland, forget the past and create a functioning state that is built for all. Simple as the signatures included the Garads of all the so called "SSC" clans so "SSC" has no legal leg to stand on...An agreement is an agreement. Signed and sworn on. to now say ohhhh we dont agree to it anymore does not work. Every agreement is enforceable even in a court of law. Therefore with or without any declaration of an SSC regional entity Somaliland will and has the legal right to its entire territory. and sorry to burst your unionst dreams but this also means by FORCE IF NEED BE.

Semantics, semantics

 

buuto badna nagadaa

 

When tribal agreement be substitute for legal binding documents,,,,?

[Peace Action]

The Hermet;770231 wrote:

It all comes down to two things....We ethier except the legal arguments and live as two seperate states or we destroy each other ending whats left of the somali race. Simple as walahi in the long run thats the only choice you guys really have.

Fighting with your keyboard?. There won't be any war. After the south is stabilized, we can build better Somalia.

[Che -Guevara]

^We should get him in room with Liibaan, see who comes out alive:-)

[Carafaat]

Peace Action, Beelaha waqooyiga waxbaa ku tashadeen 1991, 1993 and I am sure soon there will be another Consultation after Khaatumo2 and SSC will come with its agenda and then we will all sit together and consult. That is the Somaliland way of doing things.

 

And I for one would support if Somaliland and all its clans stay together and seek Somali unity together.

[The Hermet]

loooool....Good Luck To You All. I know its hard to except the reality considering the unionist dream lacks Reality. But thats what delusional people do when they have no argument they make fun. The British established almost every state including Somaliland as clan agreements to form collective states therefore clans can sign a legally binding agreement its not the first time and for the east african region its the norm. including Djibouti. So like i said before do some research before you spew some more unionist delusions.

[Liibaan]

Peace Action;770229 wrote:

and then

 

 

 

See Carafaat you filp floped, you are worse than Romney

. Your first answer came from you brain and the second one from your heart.

Peace action, you see like Hermet, JB, & X Xunjuf, Carafaat doesn't want to respect the right of SSC people for self-determination. Secessionists want to force Awdal, Maakhir, SSC to be part of Somaliland Clan Project, and that is impossible.

[The Hermet]

libaaan...yes Somaliland forced the Garads and people of Awdal into signing an agreement that withdrew from the union with Somalia, it forces them to trade with each other, and forces them to join the government and army. Like i said unionists and there delusions. What works is statistics, legal agreements and history. All i see is 98% referendum saying yes to Somaliland, 20 years of peace and development for Somaliland throughout and the signatures of all the clans of Somaliland. Thats solid. What you have my friend libaaan is an episode from disney built on emotion.

[Carafaat]

The Hermet, in essence would you support if Somaliland goverment sits down with the future political leaders of SSC and that they come to an agreement on domestic governance and issue relating to how to deal with Somalia?