Somalia Posted December 19, 2011 Samafal;766039 wrote: Somalia you are not comparing like with like, South is much smaller and less populated than the North, therefore its not easy for the assassins to operate in there withou risking capture or getting killed. The other thing is it may be well true that the assasins live and operate in the South, or may not be true at all, so what do you do? Do you wage a war which will have far reaching consequences on the basis of unsubstantiated information? prove by any means necessay, even by paying militias that actually such and such group plan assasinations in Galmudug, uncover all to know and then and onlythen take steps. But Faroole & co have became incompetent and all they do is throw accusations and threats here and there, no action at all. Assassins don't operate in the southern district, they use it to go south. I asked you a simple question. Why is the targeted assassination not happening in Somaliland or anywhere else in Somalia? Are you trying to say that Faroole is telling Galmudug to shell Galkacyo Airport, kidnap children coming out of school and using targetted asssassination? I have proposed no war, I proposed the enforcement of the green line. Look at all of you, living it up cozy in the Western hemisphere, how about you talk to the people of Mudug and ask them what they want. They are accusing Abdullahi Yusuf of this mess due to the peace treaty, what the hell has the peace treaty done for Galkacyo? We try and be civilised, who is attacking them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted December 19, 2011 Jacaylbaro;766007 wrote: I agree with you .... anything/anyone except your clan should vanish. Xaalku waa sidaas soo maahan...halla yaabin dadkaan net-ku-dirirka ah. Somalia inta uu la baxayo magaca ciddiisa inuu iska sheegto ayay ahayd. Waxaan moodey in laga gudbey ciddeenaa ciddaada ka fiican, iyo innaga waxaan ahayn maba jiraan. Dad baanba la socon wixii Soomaali u dagaashay ma is tiraahdeen? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 19, 2011 Abwaan;766067 wrote: Xaalku waa sidaas soo maahan...halla yaabin dadkaan net-ku-dirirka ah. Somalia inta uu la baxayo magaca ciddiisa inuu iska sheegto ayay ahayd. Waxaan moodey in laga gudbey ciddeenaa ciddaada ka fiican, iyo innaga waxaan ahayn maba jiraan. Dad baanba la socon wixii Soomaali u dagaashay ma is tiraahdeen? I am a realist, and none of you could carry the name of Somalia better. There's something called being civilised, obviously Galmudug isn't adherent to. How do you justify the killing of people, the kidnapping of children and the bombardment of infrastructure? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted December 19, 2011 Realist xaal ha qaato! All i see is this our clan is this. My uncle is this. My habaryar is this....come on! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 19, 2011 What an intellectual midget, diversion politics as usual. No clan is being targeted. Puntland is made up of many clans and the most recent high profile figure was an Imam, and he was not from the majority clan. Come again.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted December 20, 2011 Somalia boy, why assassinations don't happen in Garowe, in Qardo and other towns in Puntland? if you can answer that you can answer your question as well. About green lane, if you can not stop assassinations inside the area you control what makes you think you can enforce a Green Lane. Things are not straight forward as you think young man. There are no clear border lines and people are inter-mixed and bringing men in boots in people's door steps will lead to certain clashes. For your information Green Lane never existed physically, it was only based on fear that if you cross to the other side you will be shot. Qardaawi, If it is only that simple. That's against the whole reason why Galmudug never wanted to come under Puntland: Somali pride. May be if Puntland brings its cards on the table and give them a good deal they can not refuse. All in all, war is not an option and after twenty years of silly wars, Somalia can not afford to go into war again on clan lines. Rememember Somalia's civil war started in Galkio and should end in Galkio. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 20, 2011 I've seen the blame Faroole card. It doesn't happen Garowe or Qardho or anything under Iskushuban because Faroole has implemented the same policy he told asked Reer Mudug to implement in 2009 when they spat in his face. The single most insulting time of his presidency. So he washed his hand of the people and moved the checkpoint. The Green line was the boundary whereby if you cross without any permission you were finished. Troops used to guard it and when it was there, there was peace. Sure Faroole may have done some bad, yes he has tried to use the same tactics as his predecessors, but he is not the one systematically using it, nor is he the one bombarding an airport and he is definitely not the one kidnapping kids. The people of Mudug have woken up now, enough is enough. What is this with war? How will this cause war? Have you seen peace? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
uchi Posted December 20, 2011 People attempt assisianations in Garowe all the time...I think every city should implement some sort of neighborhood watch, and report suspicious activities to a central security force number. Locals have to be more vigilant, we are in a new era, so the khat selling ladies on the roads should be given mobile phones to call any activities. They have implement similar things in Garowe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abdul Posted December 20, 2011 This is the reason why Somalia needs a government that works.After 20 years,we desperately need one.We need to move beyond clan politics. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 20, 2011 Faroole's failure in Galkacyu and other parts of the state can not be underplayed. He has failed in many ways as much as many other Somali leaders regardless of region or political stance. Its time to support a Somalia solution, with Mogadishu stability, Puntland unity and the restoration of security in the south. No one cares who is President anymore. The Somali race is in grave danger and faces threats every where. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abwaan Posted December 20, 2011 General Duke;766148 wrote: Faroole's failure in Galkacyu and other parts of the state can not be underplayed. He has failed in many ways as much as many other Somali leaders regardless of region or political stance. Its time to support a Somalia solution, with Mogadishu stability, Puntland unity and the restoration of security in the south. No one cares who is President anymore. The Somali race is in grave danger and faces threats every where. Well said GD. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 20, 2011 Faroole hasn't failed, Mudug failed him, when he came for peace and unity, he had to take an army with him for his own protection, he told them what to do as the leader, it was his turn to rule but they didn't listen. He even asked the troops to be under his command when the time came, as they should, especially those around Central Mudug, but they said no. But now they are speaking out against the atrocities. This is solely on Reer Mudug, if they cared they'd implement the green line and wouldn't care about this so-called unity, there is no unity, a person who wants to kill you wants no unity. Look at all of these regions, Ximan and Xeeb, hosting meetings for small maamulo, while this neighbourhood institution can't even govern itself and its ministers has fistfights, it is a security disaster. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted December 20, 2011 Galmudug ha jirto oo ha joogto Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 20, 2011 Hargeisa Mental Hospital Mental Illness is a widespread problem in Somaliland, some health experts project anywhere from 3% to 6% of the population could be suffering from severe mental problems - Voice of America VOA's video below ↓ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted December 20, 2011 ^^ what does that have to do with Galmudug you lost me there Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites