Somalia Posted December 8, 2011 I felt it was crucial at this juncture in time to resume my series of the sexual violence against women and children that surrounds the hierarchy of the secessionist region of Somaliland. We have already looked at the following Rape in the Somaliland Presidential Compound http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/60143-Rape-in-the-Somaliland-Presidential-Compound Somaliland Gang Rapes Increase http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/60093-Somaliland-Gang-Rapes-Increase Somaliland's Female Mutilation "Most Dangerous" http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/60094-Somaliland-s-Female-Mutilation-quot-Most-Dangerous-quot _____________________________________ In retribution for the support of Siad Barre, Somalia's last dictatorial leader, the people of the secessionist region known as Somaliland conducted a wide ranging campaign of sexual humiliation against the minority clans who supported the former autocratic figure. Somaliland is relatively more secure than other parts of the country. There is an administration that functions, but has not been internationally recognized as a state. However minority groups such as the [minority] clans who 16 predominantly reside in Somaliland are subjected to serious discrimination. These groups do not benefit from any social facilities and other activities that major clans have access to. They remain barred from employment. There is no justice system even in Somaliland that protects the rights of this minority. The level of isolation meted out to these people is so grave that the NGOs and international agencies operating in Somalia do not have direct contact with them. Over time these people have become reclusive as a result of systemically discriminative attitudes towards them. http://www.oxfordhouse.org.uk/download/Minorities_report.PDF The northern Somaliland region is safe only for those people belonging to that area’s majority clan. The [minority] clans were routinely raped, expelled from their homes, kidnapped, tortured and killed. The 2 above quotes clearly work against the UN Convention on Refugee Status The Contracting States shall apply the provisions of this Convention to refugees without discrimination as to race, religion or country of origin. Article 3. - Non-discrimination 1. The Contracting States shall not expel a refugee lawfully in their territory save on grounds of national security or public order. Article 32. - Expulsion SOURCES US Department of Justice - Executive Review http://www.asylumlaw.org/docs/united_states/Appendix%20N%20-%20Expert%20Affidavit.pdf Oxford House - Minority Groups http://www.oxfordhouse.org.uk/download/Minorities_report.PDF UN Convention relating to the Status of Refugees http://www2.ohchr.org/english/law/refugees.htm Clearly I am using the Status of Refugees to highlight Somaliland's secession from Somalia in 1991, thus if it wants to be treated like a country, I must make it so. Side note: Atrocities did indeed happen throughout Somalia especially towards minority clans however, one must pause and think of the continuing assault against minorities in the so-called democratic secessionist state of Somaliland. Why are they intent 21 years later, to kill, rape and torture the helpless? Ladies and gentlemen, this shows the intent by the secessionist region to take out their frustration and anger on minorities. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted December 9, 2011 Crimes including rape and murders is plaguing all of Somalia-picking on any region to score points is adding an insult to the injuries of the victims. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 9, 2011 I'm afraid it isn't. One region has prophesied itself to be the model for Africa, so why is it continuing with these heinous crimes at a systematic level? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted December 9, 2011 Puntland is the number 1 abuser of minorities. In Somaliland they have representives even in the presidential place. http://www.galgalanews.com/?p=5632 Faallo: – Puntland Iyo Beesha G*b**ye Maxaa Kala Haysta???. Ujeedada Puntland Ay Ka Leedahay Weerarka Beesha G*b**ye. Dowlada puntland oo sanadihii ,bilihii,asbuucyadii iyo maalmihii u danbeeyey dhex dhexaadin aan xaqiiqada ku salaysnayn ka dhex waday beelaha g/bari ee isku dhamaaday ayaa iska dhigaysa inay wax hagaajinayso iyadoo mid hoosta ku wadata,taas oo macnehedu yahay inay sii huri nayso dhibaatada beelaha g/bari, waayo g/bari ama puntland beelaha degaa waa in is taqaan iyo in wada dhalatay ama is dhashay dhibaaatooyinka dhx yaallaa maxay dowladihii hore uu dh mari wayday waa su’aal is waydiin mudan qofkasta oo caqli lehna uu garan karo. Sida la ogyahay umadaha gabooye waa umadii loogu yimid dhulka somalia oo dhan waxaana taas qiraya taariikhyahanada somaliyeed ama kuwa caalamkaba, waxay ka mid ahaayeen saldanadii qaddaafi ee libya waxay kaloo taariikh ahaan ahaayeen dadkii waqtiyo hore talada dalka la waydiin jiray , hase yeeshee is bedel aan wali laga daba tagin ayaa dhacay iyadoona beelaha kale ee somalidu ay raadiyeen inay gabooye cagta hoosteeda galiyaan taasi waa ay hagaagi la’dahay illaa maanta waxaana jira dhaq dhaqaaq baaxad leh oo beelaha gabooye ay ku soo kabanayaan oo caalamka ka socda. Gabooye in somalia iyaga loogu yimi waxaa kuu xaqiijinaysa waxay deegaan ku yihiin 18-ka gobol ee dalkan somalia magaalo kasta oo aad tagto waa habeenkii xalay ahaa oo tagay in laga waayo beelaha gab**ye waxaana taasi oo aan been ahayn balse xaqiiqada ku salaysan. Hadaba dowlada puntland maxay tahay sababta ay u weerartay beelaha gabooye ee gobolka bari , ma waxay doonaysaa inay ku darto beelaha ay weerarka ku tahay,ma waxay doonaysaa inay dhagar qabayaal ka dhigto bacdamaa ay yihiin beesha kaliya ee ka nadiifsan dhibaatada dhex taala somalia, mise waxay doonaysaa inay dhaqaale ka samayso??? Su’aalahaan ayaa waxaa looga jawaabi karaa , puntland gabooye waxay ka damacsantahay inay ka dhigto dhagar qabayaal, oo ay yeeshaan kuwo dadka laaya kuwo dadka qarxiya iyo kuwo dhibaatada ka shaqeeya si ay miisaan ahaan ula mid noqdaan beelaha kale ee soomalida marka laga hadlayo beelaha gabooye ee degen puntland. Maxay Puntland Kaga Duwantahay Somaliland Marka Laga Hadlayo Qaabka Ay Ula Dhaqmaan Somalidu Beelaha G*b**ye. Iyadoo dhaqanka somalidu kula dhaqmaan beelaha gabooye uu kala duwan yahay isla markaana laga hor istaagay inay talada dalka iyo xasilinta dalka qayb ka ahaadaan ayaa waxaa muuqatta in la tabay maqnaanshaha beelaha gabooye ay ka maqan yihiin saaxafad siyaasadda somalia isla markaana haddii ay siyaasadda kaalin lixaad leh ku lahaan lahaayeen sidii dowladihii hore uu ay macquul tahay in dalku hagaago bacdamaa ay yihiin dadkii dalka logu yimi. Taariikh badan inagoon faaqidin balse taariikhdu aysan qarsoonayn puntland iyo somaliland farqi weyn ayaa u dhexeeya marka laga hadlayo ka qayb galinta siyaasadda beelaha gab**ye, inkastoo beesha **** ee somaliland ay laftoodu dhibaateeyaan beelaha gabooye balse sanadihii udanbeeyey uu arintaasi is bedel ka muuqanayay. Siilaanyo oo ah madaxweynaha somaliland dhowaan ayuu magcaabay la taliyaha madaxtooyada somaliland e beelaha gab**ye si wax looga bedelo nolosha dadkaasi talada somali land-na ay wa ugu yeeshaan taasi oo si weyn u dhiiri galinaysa in somali land ay hesho madax banaanida ay raadinayso bacdamaa ay arin dimuqraadiyada ku salaysan ay fulisay waxaana arintaasi islamarkiiba taageeray beesha caalamka. Puntland dhankeeda iska daa inay xubin u magcowdee waxayba biwloday inay guryohooda ugu dhacdo oo ay weeraro ugu gaysato , iyadoona xalay ciidanka afdalow ay soo xidh xidheen dhalinyaro iyo culimo caan ka ah bosaso oo beesha gabooye ka tirsan. C/laahi Aadan dhuguf oo ah nin dhalinyaro ah isla markaana arday ah kana shaqeeya shaqada dareewalnimada ayaa isagoo ku sugan masjid ku yaalla goobtii lagu dilay Cismaan Axmed Cismaan (Qarawo) ay garabka ka haleeshay xabad kamid ah xabadihii ay soo rideen ragii dilkaasi gaystay iyagoo isla markiina meesha ka carary. Wax yar ka dib waxaa weerar caddaan ah oo aan geedna loogu soo gaban soo qaaday afdalow iyadoo ciidankiisu ay jirdil u gaysteen c/laahi aadan dhuguf oo dhaawac ahaa iyo dhalinyaro kale oo ku qayilaysay dilku meesha uu ka dhacay meel ka ag dhow waxaana ciidanka afdalow ay kaxaysteen dad gaadhaya ilaa 20-qof oo ratid ah kana mid ah beesha gabooye. Hadal hayna bosaso ee dilka Cismaan Axmed Cismaan (Qarawo) ayaa waxaa ay sheegaysaa in lagu tuhunsanyahay beesha cali saleebaan bacdamaa cali saleebaan iyo ugaadh salebaan oo uu Cismaan Axmed Cismaan (Qarawo) ka dhashay colaadi ay dhex taallo taasi oo noqon karta arin loo qaateen ah bacdamaa aanooyinkii ay bateen. C/raxmaan Yaasiin Jamac oo ka mid ah culimada bosaso si weyna looga yaqaano isla markaana tafsiirka qur’aanka ka mariya mid ka mid ah masaajida bosaso ayaa sidoo kale afdalow iyo ciidan uu horkacayo ay ku weerareen gurgiisa oo ku yaalla xaafadda laanta hawada xilli danbe oo ku beegnayd 02:30am ee danbe iyagoona baadhay dhamaanba gurigiisa isla markaana si un dhibaato ugu gaystay soona kaxaystay iyagoon u caddayn sababta loo xidhayo waxaana taasi uu uga dhowaanayaa in gab**ye uu yahay dad sidii la doono laga yeeli karo balse taasi laysaga daba iman doono. C/laahi Aadan dhuguf ayaa isagana isagoo dhaawac ah oo dhiigu qubanayo la geeyay saldhiga badhtamaha ee bosaso isagoona afdalow markuu intaas fuliyay lugaha isa saartay oo sheegay in baaadhitaan lagu samayn doono. Waxaa kaloo jira in 18-qof oo kale oo beesha ka tirsan oo ay ka mid yihiin ninka dhaawacan ee ardayga ah iyo shiikh craxmaan ay iyaguna ku xidhanyihiin saldhiga bosaso iyadoona ilaa iyo hada aaan wax baadhitaan ah lagu samayn balse sidii adhi lasoo xidhay oo kale ay xerada saldhiga badhtamaha ku jiraan. Odayaasha beelaha gab**ye ee bosaso ayaa maanta ku guulaystay inay C/laahi Aadan dhuguf oo dhaawac ah ula cararaan dhakhtarka bosaso si loo dabiibo xaaaladdiia caafimaadna loo soo cesho waxayna sheegeen inaysan raalli ka ahayn kana ahaan doonin sida loo dhibaateeyey beelaha gabooye oo aan waxba iyagu galabsan arintana si weyn u dareemay bacdamaa aysan ahayd dad aan dhibaatada ka shaqayn balse danohooda kale ku mashquulsan inta badan. Mowqifka Odayaasha Beelaha Gab**ye Ee Dhac dadan. odayaasha beelaha gabooye oo aan kala hadhin ayaa hal meel uga soo wada jeestay dhacdadan iyagoona tilmaamay inay la gudhin doonaan afdalow rabitaanka uu ku doonayo inuu ku dhibaateeyo , waxay kaloo sheegeen in mowqif ahaan ay raali k ayihiin in cid kasta oo beelaha gabooye ka mid ah haddii looga shakiyo waxyaalo amniga dhibaato ku ah in baadhitaaan lagu sameeyo si loo ogaado xaqiiqada jirta. Waxayse odayaashu sheegeen in aysan raalli ka ahayn weererka qaawan ee aan geedna loogu soo gabban ee dowlada puntland ay beesha gabooye ku soo qaaday ayna ka qaadan doonaan tallaabada kala gudboon arrintaasi, waxay kaloo odayaashu hadalkooda ku soo gaba gabeeyeen in beelaha gabooye ay tahay beel (Colaadna Taqaana , Nabadna Taqaanna) Si kastab ha ahaatee shacabka kala duwan ee bosaso ku nool ayaa iyaguna si weyn ugu dhaliilay Puntland arrintaan isla markaana sheegay in ay puntland ku kacday tallaabo xuquuqda aadamiga ka dhan ah ayna kula talinayaan inay ka firsadaan dhibaataynta beelaha gab**ye. Geedi Cali Geedi GalGala-news-Bosaso Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted December 9, 2011 N case of dumb and dumber..lool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 9, 2011 First of all, you aren't allowed to use clan names on this website. I didn't, so you should not. Second. Your news source is Galgala News which is vehemtly anti-Puntland. The reason it is anti-Puntland is due to Puntland's Security Forces conducting operations against militants in the Galgala Mountains. BBC: Puntland forces attack al-Shabab in Somali mountains http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-10761968 Renewed Fighting in Galgala Mountains http://www.somaliareport.com/index.php/post/2040 Funny enough, Somaliland has been providing support for this man who has confessed his support for Al-Shabaab, a militant group that has been conducting mass killings in Mogadishu and Somalia. This also highlights Somaliland's adamant hope for Somalia's failure and renews chaos. Could Al-Shabaab gain from Somaliland's booming arms business? http://www.somaliaonline.com/community/showthread.php/59844-Could-Al-Shabaab-gain-from-Somaliland-s-booming-arms-business Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted December 9, 2011 PIS: Puntland’s Sub-clan terror Unit Op-Ed:Puntland´s False-Flag Terrorism Could Undermine Its Stability As we approach the 10th anniversary of those horrific terrorist attacks on America, America’s war on terror has taken many faces and has been waged in many corners around the globe under different pretext; and worse used entirely for different purposes whether it be to defend clan interests or settle territorial disputes. The terrorist card has become a national and international metal that could be bent to serve powerful people in office to subjugate and isolate those who they perceive to be enemies of the state. Many Americans might be surprised how a noble idea to defend self and country here and abroad have spiraled into a perpetual hegemonic conquest by rogue governments against innocent civilians. The deadly terrorist game is unfortunately weaved into the political quagmire of modern Somali politics. While southern Somalia has the well-entrenched terrorist group Alshabaab that are armed to the teeth, it is the more peaceful North that has taken the terrorist card to new heights. A self-perpetuated killing spree spearheaded by notorious thugs known as the Puntland Intelligence Service (PIS) have staged clannish killings to justify an all out war against ‘rival sub-clan’ in high dense populated areas of Puntland. The semi-autonomous region of Puntland, once a prosperous and peaceful region, is semi-arid land deprived of any economic viability except human potential. Its only income streams came from business taxation, airports, and the economic hub of the state-the port. It is no wonder America’s war on terror was viewed in this part of the world as another means of diversifying its economic portfolio along with the alleged piracy operations. With meager resources to pay for security personnel, army, and police it was a dream-come-true for the Puntland administration to get funding for a well-trained and fed sub-clan militia to find real terrorists. Eventually, they become to embody an entity they wished to destroy; terrorists. Though Puntland is composed of many sub-clans, PIS is exclusively composed of one sub-clan. This overrepresentation inevitably caused them to defend the aspirations, claims, and territorial lands of that constituency. They are the main force deployed by Puntland to haunt minorities, southerners, and mingle in sub-clan territorial disputes. This CIA-funded group has waged avoidable wars to get more funding from Washington, not surprising, against ‘rival sub-clans.’ The forceful capture of hapless southerners is the cornerstone of these thugs, and lately with Washington tightening its vault, saw the extension of these merciless tactics to peaceful “rival sub-clans.” With not judicial system, and the few that are set up mainly to retract the rulings of the day before, these ruthless thugs act with impunity. At desperate times, and to keep the proverbial wheel rolling, they have become provocateurs and instigators of clannish wars between brotherly sub-clans in major urban areas that coexisted for centuries. After dismal successes in Bari, they moved to Mudug. After year and some of instigating clannish warfare in Mudug, they have become too impatient for their own devices to materialize. After the PIS killed a well-known peace-maker, Hassan Waloore, the family of the man without any assistance from the state captured two of the three hit men. Through these men, the family came to know of the funds and the source of the endless killings that have become too familiar in Puntland. It was clear through these men that they worked and collected from the PIS office in Galkacyo. After all, one would need a well-oiled, organized, and systematic infrastructure to carry out such heinous acts. What would hapless and stateless person in Garsoor gain from killing former political and prominent individuals? The PIS and the Puntland state are one and the same. The state apparatus approves and uses the services of this junta freely. They wage coordinated attacks, share intelligence, and in Garsoor have combined forces to fight against “a rival sub-clan.” You would think the sheer audacity of such attacks against a ‘rival sub-clan’ while using all the resources of the state would shame these state-sponsored thugs but their plan was even more deadly. This form of collective punishment against sub-clans is not new to these thugs. They have used these same tactics against another ‘rival clan’ in Sanaag when they cut all food supplies and convoys from entering or exiting the area. In the Garsoor region, these hateful thugs have gone one step further by restoring to medical terrorism. Medical Terrorism The PIS thugs denied bystanders and civilians the medical attention they needed the most. As if using excessive power and deadly bombardment of residential areas with heavy artillery, Anti-aircraft guns, tikniko, and tangs was not enough; they barred (through closure or otherwise) the injured from the two hospitals in Galkacyo. The two main hospitals in Galkacyo Mudug General Hospital (MGH) and Galkacyo Medical Center (GMC) were specifically closed to Garsoor residents while the PIS, Puntland army, and sub-clan militias that shelled residential areas miraculously got medical treatment. The only private hospital in Garsoor, Al-Xayaat, was not only specifically targeted by the PIS thugs but all of its equipment confiscated, looted, and taken by them. This is one awkward way of fighting terrorism. The people of Garsoor faced this medical discrimination in their supposedly ‘home country’ which they have undoubtedly both defended with their blood in the past and contributed mightily to its economic growth. They pay taxes and provide jobs to local residents. Many of the damaged properties were well fortified and built architectural designs that provided amenities rarely found in other parts of Somalia. As this calamity fall on the people of Garsoor, it was the ‘perceived enemy’ which welcomed and hosted the Garsoor community. The South Hospital of Galmudug provided temporary refuge to their brothers who were under siege by the combined forces of the PIS and the Puntland army. Their hospitable generosity was not only medical but also housing for the many families and children due to the merciless bombardment. A demonstration of bravery was Caalin’s presidential and calculated BBC interviews where he called Puntland authorities to stop the ‘sub-clan warfare’ and killing innocent civilians. Contrast this with the criminal Faroole who as always clannish by nature and un-presidential as usual promised more bloodshed and destruction. The Holland MSF agency has strong ties with the three hospitals in Galkacyo, including the one in Galmudug. The PIS must have been infuriated when they heard of the medical attention given to the ‘rival sub-clan.’ They worked tirelessly to end such an outreach. It was days later that this wish was granted when all injured individuals no matter how critical were asked to evacuate the hospital immediately due to eminent threats. The injured were flown to Nairobi, Mogadishu, and Mudug General Hospital-Galdogob. This might sound surreal to many people around the world who would be surprised by such hatred and skewed justices, but more surprisingly the PIS is defending a sub-clan that controls more than 50% of the Puntland parliament, hold 80% of all government positions, and own about 70% of all businesses. For instance in the Mudug administration, although the ******** populate the state as much as the Mudug **********, they get less than 5% of all allocated positions in the region. Indeed, as these PIS thugs found out recently, ******** is only a minority in paper. I believe it was the great sheikh Cumar Faaruuq who said that Somalia did not seep into self-destruction because of clan, but injustice. It is injustice first that fuels insurgents; it is exclusionary politics that puts people in different camps to start riots and revolts. Indeed, our semi-arid region has been on the one thousand proverbial Chinese miles to catastrophe and has crossed the half-way mark. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted December 9, 2011 Why do you keep using clan names???????? Also, how about you give me reputable sources like mine? I am not asking for much here. This thread is about the sexual violence your secessionist region perpetrates on the minority. Please, stay on point and give me good sources. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
