burahadeer Posted December 8, 2011 Nazi flags are waved all ova the western world...democracy at work.Learn from us. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted December 8, 2011 STOIC;764100 wrote: ^ Don't you realize this demonstration by itself is a democracy at work.Certainly the underlying conditions in that part of the world is highly favorable to democracy and if it wasn't so it would have been improbable to preserve what they preserved the last 18 years.The disheartening fact is that some of you guys are secretly praying to have a full blown chaos just to support your disaproval of Somaliland (So much for being patriotic and peace loving Somalis). The remarkable fact is that Somaliland has created a culture that supports its ideals and practices of freedom of expresion.Only a democratic government can provide a maximum opportunity for exercising a moral responsibility-a responsibility that the current government has promised to bring justice to the victims. No it is not democracy at work, although the Hargeysa admin is not a country - we are seeing the same stuff happening in Syria right now (or over 20 years ago in China). Is that because there is democracy in this country? Of course not it is the people who are forcing those regimes to change! The lack of democracy is the reason. Or the citizens of other Arab regimes who took to the streets, those regimes showed no democracy throughout their existence. It's the same with Awdal, where dominant group in the triangle have access to Bebera's port and airport and drug trade are able to pay of local elders and others from Awdal to follow them. If this was democracy, you would not see a new flag being waved! Obviously there is none. However, the Youth are now speaking as these video's clearly show! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted December 8, 2011 Ma sidaasa?Wallee:D Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted December 8, 2011 Thankful, To answer you, we can draw on a large body of evidence that suggest Somaliland is different than the countries you mentioned.Somaliland has elected officials, alternative sources of information and free, fair and frequent elections.It should come as no surprise to discover that the goal of the two demonstrations are different.Contrary to what your intuition will tell you this demonstrations of the kids are NOT in the same category with the Arab spring.Democracy guarantees its citizens a number of fundamental rights that non-democratic government does not and clearly we can agree it is these fundamental rights that these Arab springs are fighting for.The Arab youths are fighting cruel and vicious autocrats and Somaliland youths are doing balance and check on their governments reaction to national issue. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted December 8, 2011 A_Khadar;764083 wrote: che, time to check your hearing..lol.. They are saying "Dowlad I (clan name) dooni mayno".. Just messing around, I heard it fine. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted December 8, 2011 STOIC, Somaliland youths are doing balance and check on their governments reaction to national issue. The issue here is not the protests, because these kinds of acts occur all over the world. Even the most democratic countries are subjected to this from time to time. This issue here is the Awdal State flag being waved. Indeed, the Important part here is to remember the title of this thread "Awdal State flag waved". Because, unlike other democratic places the youths here are promoting open defiance against your enclave. They are waving the same flag that Somalia's unionists all over the world have been waving. Simply put, by bringing out this flag they are not protesting "their government" as you say, but in fact are openly rejecting it and it's flag and calling for seperation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted December 8, 2011 In Somaliland politics, support for Somali unity is elephant in the room. I am sure the wise STOIC knows that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted December 8, 2011 ^You have to admire Stoic's sincere belief in the system though:-) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted December 8, 2011 All eyes on Somaliland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted December 8, 2011 ^You are here everyday. How could we possible not see. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted December 8, 2011 Ma adaa ka jeestaba ,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted December 8, 2011 Che -Guevara;764125 wrote: ^You are here everyday. How could we possible not see. :D Jacaylbaro is a lone soldier these days . Even Xaji Xunjuf has lost the plot,and NGONGE has too many constraints to overcome to be effective in the propaganda game. The only hope Jacayl has is the new greens he graduated from the Hargeysa school, and if buuradeer is any measure Jacayl's investment in there is not fairing better either Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
STOIC Posted December 8, 2011 Che, I gotta have faith...Yet at heart I know Somaliland is unfinished journey.The domestic political climate only curtails the country into a more stronger country.It would have been shame to deflect the mounting criticism of the youth of Awdal and you can clealry see the adminstration have respected their right to convene without disrupting the daily business of the city.Despite the best intentions of many anti-Somaliland groups they come short of winning the hearts and minds of secessionists.In all of this, anti-secionist appears to have been motivated by their own impotent unionist alternative mantra.In the eyes of many, including me (of course with bias alert) Somaliland has sharpened the diffrence between them and the rest of Somalia in many ways.As Somalia goes through many searing exposure of anguish and disapointment Somaliland has become the beacon of hope.Somaliland exerts a lasting influence of hope on anyone with open mind.So i think the anti-secionist can wiggle or waffle on non-existance crisis for all they want..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted December 8, 2011 Jacaylbaro;764131 wrote: Ma adaa ka jeestaba ,, It's hard to. Bal laba bari taga oo arka inaan indinka soo dabadhaqaaqno. looool@Xiin. Stoic.......You are making whole assumptions about people that oppose secession and seem equating the stability and peace in Somaliland with secession. And you seem to questioning everybody's motivations except for those that want to dismember Somalia, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted December 8, 2011 STOIC, you gotta have a faith i get it but please be informed that with Lasano, Buuhoodle, Boorama and Ceerigaabo, the unionist are right at the heart of your claim Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites