Xaaji Xunjuf Posted December 5, 2011 . the Muslim community has long ago vanished from existence ... we can say that the Muslim community has been extinct for a few centuries, for this Muslim community does not denote the name of a land in which Islam resides, nor is it a people whose forefathers lived under the Islamic system at some earlier time. It is the name of a group of people whose manners, ideas and concepts, rules and regulations, values and criteria, are all derived from the Islamic source. The Muslim community with these characteristics vanished at the moment the laws of God became suspended on earth. [p.9] Our whole environment, people's beliefs and ideas, habits and art, rules and laws -- is Jahiliyyah, even to the extent that what we consider to be Islamic culture, Islamic sources, Islamic philosophy and Islamic thought are also constructs of Jahiliyyah! [p.20] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Skeptic Posted December 14, 2011 'Our forefathers were heroes .. we are zeroes ... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manahel.fatima Posted December 15, 2011 Our forefather know what is life, what is better and important foe a Muslim or what is not. they give priority to Islam and then they think for any thing else. but now a days. we are just muslim by name not by our actions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yaa tahay Posted December 26, 2011 Manahel.fatima;765307 wrote: Our forefather know what is life, what is better and important foe a Muslim or what is not. they give priority to Islam and then they think for any thing else. but now a days. we are just muslim by name not by our actions . moslim by name wax la dhaho majiro... Iman in heart and actions waa ineey isla socdaan and not like the talafi's say: 'one can be a moslim in his heart but his actions can contain kufr or shirk' AcudubiLaah Allah yarxam Sayyid Qutb amiiiin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maaddeey Posted December 27, 2011 yaa tahay;767851 wrote: moslim by name wax la dhaho majiro... Iman in heart and actions waa ineey isla socdaan and not like the talafi's say: 'one can be a moslim in his heart but his actions can contain kufr or shirk' AcudubiLaah Allah yarxam Sayyid Qutb amiiiin The term is Salafi, or u r like the ones said to be : 'yuxarrifuuna al kalima can muwaadicih'?. Its mentioned in the famous Shafaacah hadiith, that Muslims who never did any deeds will be taken out of Jahannam. But they never said they can be Muslim while doing Shirk or Kufr! otherwise whats the meaning of reading and explaining Kitaab al Tawheed li Ibn Abd Wahhaab?. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yaa tahay Posted December 29, 2011 ^^^Allahu mustacaan, aayada tafsiirkeeda horta maad aqriday weligaa?? 'al kalima' waxa laga wado maad fahantay horta?? I m sure u dont hadii kale waxan aad ku hadliso kumaad hadasheen Salaf waa Salaf al saalix,,, Talaf waa mushrikinntan maanta Salaf isku sheega ee diinta Islaamka la dagaalamaya and yes I know the hadith and look how Mercifull Allah is for the moslims.. lakiin there is no shafaacah for the so called 'moslims' and moslims only by name ur last qeustion ma fahmin Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maaddeey Posted December 30, 2011 ^When the Mu'awillah (Muctazilah, Ashaacirah etc) said Istawlaa instead of Istawaa calal carsh, the Culima likened them with the Yahood who said: Xintah insted of Xittah (Yuxarrifuunal kalimah can mawaadicih) (Laam) of Muawwilah with the (Nuun) of al yuhood, I'm saying isn't your (Taa 'talafi') looks like their nuun & Laam?!!. These Ulima you calling Talafis read kitabuTawhiid teaching Muslims about tawhiid and warn them of Shirk, if they think people of shirk will go to jannah there's no use reading kitab al tawheed, don't you agree?. You look like one hell of a takfeeri to call them Mushrikiin! Subxaan-Allaah!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yaa tahay Posted January 2, 2012 first of all: the verse you mentioned is talking about the people who change the Words of Allah, and you are compairing the words of Allah with a title some people gave them selfs wich 'ulama' are you talking about horta? could you name them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
naima muhammad Posted August 28, 2017 Brother yaatahay. Where do you live? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites