Abtigiis Posted November 3, 2011 Mind you, he supports the TFG and its seemingly avuncular President. But he opposes governments formed in foreign lands. The TFG is not formed inside Somalia. He opposes Kenyan incursion, which the TFG endorses. He opposes Amisiom atrocities, which the TFG refuses to blame Amisom for. He enthusiastically sings for Mahiga’s road map, something which the TFG doesn’t seem to embrace with the same fervor. He opposes Somaliland, Galmudug, Ras Casayr, Azania and tribal enclaves. But he supports Puntland. The question remains if Xinnfanin doesn’t agree with all that the TFG is doing, how can he claim he is supporting it? What is he supporting? What is the entity called TFG without its policies? How can you support an entity whose policies and actions you vehemently oppose? Can those who understand what Xinn stands for please tell us what it is that he stands for? I couldn’t figure out his identity by myself. He says Abtigiis is a man of many words but with few ideas. I personally never mistake words for ideas. But let us agree with him for now for the sake of this argument. If he agrees Alshabab is the biggest enemy of Somalia, which he says he agrees, what is the practical way of dealing with them today? Empty and untested talk of ‘Alshabab can only be defeated by Somalis’? Shall we hear from your wisdom and self-confessed rivers of ideas please Ya Xinn? What do you propose as a way out? SOL sermons? Azania bashing? Simulating nationalism? Mahiga? Faroole? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted November 3, 2011 When I read your posts I actually believe you are the man in your avatar. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted November 3, 2011 Why? Showqi Abtigiis waxaas aad meesha ku soo qortay waxay u egyihiin maahmaahdii soomaaliyeed ee odhanaysay "Xaraanta ma cunno ee fuudkeedanu cabnaa" Shawqi seems to have got the identity of the horseman. Are you saying the man is ESHU, the God of confusion and treachery? With one side black and the other white, like a hot Machiato? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 3, 2011 Xiinfanin is what i would Call a Clan nationalist he supports Puntland because its a semi autonomous state created by Tolka for Tolka. He basically tolerates the transitional federal government he supports some of their policies some of them he opposes but he supports the federal model of the TFG. Abtigis i think Xiinfanin wants the big foot Community to fight for years against Alshabaab that's why he is against the Military Incursion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 3, 2011 Don't pull a Bashir, The Fool, on me. I judge you to be a learned man who, however shallow his intellectual depth may be, still have the critical thinking training necessary to decipher what the lay people cannot. And specially so today for I am reading a classic translation of Alhariiri's famous maqaamaat, Ponder on the following excerpts awoowe: Thou wilt not blame me for the weakness of my intellect, If thou art assured I am a man of Hamadhán. Ibn Fáris, Hamadhání's instructor, ironically hints that the ignorance of the people of Hamadhán was contagious. 'Why should I not ', says he, 'offer a sincere prayer for that city where I had the good fortune of forgetting all I ever learned?' In spite of the uninspiring character of his immediate surroundings, ‘Aufí tells us he gave, at a very early age, evidence of those great gifts which eventually made him famous. That great patron of letters, the Ṣáḥib ibn ‘Abbád, the famous Buwayhid minister, tested his skill in ex tempore translation at the age of twelve by giving the young scholar Persian verse to render into metrical Arabic, a feat which he accomplished on the spot, the Ṣáḥib himself, at the instance of the youthful poet, suggesting the metre and the rhyme. Enjoy waryaa, http://www.sacred-texts.com/isl/mhm/mhm04.htm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Somalia Posted November 3, 2011 Abtigiis;755679 wrote: Why? He looks calm and well mannered similar to your writing, instead of coming out and calling people names you carefully throw them under the bus. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted November 3, 2011 ^^ Are you saying Abtigis is a white Guy war his people don't come in that Color. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showqi Posted November 3, 2011 Abtigiis;755679 wrote: Shawqi seems to have got the identity of the horseman. Are you saying the man is ESHU, the God of confusion and treachery? With one side black and the other white, like a hot Machiato? Wakaase bal adba,,,,,,,,,,,,,, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted November 3, 2011 We value and recognize your intellectual depth dear Xinn. All the citations and poems stand testamount to it. We just couldn't figure out how you can be supporting an entity whose actions and policies you oppose! Do us - the intellectual midgets- a favour. Please talk in a language we can understand and tell us who you are and where you stand? Or is it a hopless mission to make us get the pith of the sophesticated political stances you espouse? Answers please, not patronising evations! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 3, 2011 ^^Waa hagaag! Afsoomaali igula hadal. Su'aalaha aad qabto afsoomali igu weydii. Markiiba laba su'aalood haka badin. Waa labo labo awoowe, maanta. Labada su'aalood oo u horreyaa soo daa Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Abtigiis Posted November 3, 2011 ^Ya tahay? Casaan mise madoow? Cir mise dhul? Cad mise caad? Lizard or chameleon? Waan wareernay, Dr. Bal noo jilci oo who are you? Mise sidii Qaasim bay malaaigaha naartiyo janadu kugu murantaa, of course in your case TFG iyo Mucaskar Caanoolee kugu murmaaan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted November 3, 2011 Waxaan ahay ninka inta aadku kuugu dhabba galay, oo gefkaaga la yaabay aamus xeeriyey Nin Ugaas walaakii yahoo aarsan baan ahaye Nin ila biya le soo maroo ooman baan ahaye Afdhabaan dhab, ninkaa aamusaan ahaye Haddaad midab rabto, madow baan ahay, caddaan layguma sheegin. Nin cad naagtaada uga baq, nin madown naftaada, taana waa la yiri Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bashiir Posted November 3, 2011 xiinfaniin;755683 wrote: Don't pull a Bashir, The Fool, on me. huh!!??? scratch head!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted November 3, 2011 1. Dacartuba marbay malab dhashaa ood muudsataa dhabaqe 2. Waxan ahay macaan iyo qadhaadh meel ku wada yaalle 3. Midigtayda iyo bidixdu waa laba mataanoode 4. Midi waa martida soora iyo maata daadihise 5. Midina waa mindiyo xiirayiyo mur iyo deebaaqe 6. Masalooyin talantaalliyaan maandhow leeyahaye 7. Nin majiira keliyuun qabsada hay malayninae 8. Marbaan ahay muddeex camal san oon maagista aqoone 9. Marna macangag laayaanahoo miiggan baan ahaye 10. Marbaan ahay muftiga saahidnimo mawlacaw gala'e 11. Marna Mukhawi waashoo xumaha miista baan ahaye 12. Marbaan ahay nin xaaraan maqdaxa aan marin jidiinkise 13. Marna tuug mu'diya baan ahoon maal Rasuul bixinne 14. Marbaan ahay maqaam awliyaad maqaddinkoodiiye 15. Marna mudanka shaydaanka iyo maal jinbaan ahaye 16. Marbaan ahay murtiyo baanisaba madaxda reeraaye 17. Oo ay weliba muuniyo dulqaad igu ******taane 18. Marna reer magaal Loofaroon muuqan baan ahaye 19. Waxan ahay nin midabbeeya oo maalinbays rogae 20. Muuqaygu gelinkiiba waa muunad goonniyahe 21. Miisaanna ima saari karo nin i maleeyaaye 22. Muslinka iyo gaalada dirkaba waan micna aqaane 23. Malaa'iigta naartiyo jannadu waygu murantaaye 24. Ninkii maalmo badan soo jiree madaxu boosaystay 25. Ee inan rag maamuli yiqiin waa I maan garanne 26. ninkasta halkii kuula mudan ee ay muhato laabtaadu 27. Ee aanad madadaaladeed ugala maarmaynin 28. Iska soo mar waa kuu bannaan marinkad doontaaye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted November 3, 2011 Consider the aloe - how bitter is its taste! Yet sometimes there wells up a sap so sweet That it seems like honey in your mouth. Side by side the sweet and bitter run Just as they do, my friends, in me, As I switch from sweet to bitter And back to sweet again. My two hands, right and left, are twins. One twin gives food to strangers and to guests, It sustains the weak and guides them. But the other is a slashing, cutting knife - As sharp to the taste as myrrh, As bitter as the aloe. Do not suppose I am the kind of man Who walks along one path, and that path only. I go one way, and seem a reasonable man, I provoke no one, I have the best of natures I go another, and I'm obstinate and bold, Striking out at others without cause. Sometimes I seem a learned man of God Who retreats in ascetic zeal to a seclude sanctuary - I turn again and I'm a crazy libertine, Sneakily snatching whatever I can get. I am counted as one of the elders of the clan, Esteemed for my wisdom, tact and skill in argument, But within me there dwells a mere townee, too - A no-good layabout he is, at that. I'm a man whose gullet will allow no passage For food that believers are forbidden to eat, And yet I'm a pernicious, hardened thief - The property of even the Prophet himself Would not be safe from me. I have my place among the holy saints, I am one of the foremost of their leaders, But at times I hold high rank in Satan's retinue, And then my lords and masters are the jinns. It's no good trying to weigh me up - I can't be balanced on a pair of scales. From this day to that my very colour changes - Nay, I'm a man whose aspect alters As morning turns to evening And back once more to morning. Muslims and infidels - I know their minds And understand them through and through. "He's ours!" the angels of Hell proclaim of me "No, ours!" the angels of Heaven protest. I have, then, all these striking qualities Which no one can ignore - But who can really know my mind? Only a grey-head who has lived for many days And learned to measure what men are worth. And now, my friends, each man of you - If either of the paths I follow Takes your fancy and delights your heart, Or even if you cannot bear to lose The entertainment I provide, Then come to me along the path - You're free to make a choice! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites