Renounce violence and we'll negotiate, Kenya tells Shabaab

[Che -Guevara]

By JOHN NGIRACHU jngirachu@ke.nationmedia.com

Posted Thursday, October 27 2011 at 17:59

 

The Kenyan Government is ready to negotiate with the Al Shaabab to halt the operation in Somalia on condition that the militia renounces violence.

 

Foreign Affairs assistant minister Richard Onyonka said Thursday the Somalia militiant group currently under an onslaught by the army has frequently been in touch with the government.

 

“The truth is the Al Shaabab is frequently and constantly in touch with the Kenyan government…If the Al Shaabab would like to discuss and engage with the Kenyan government, our channels are very open,” said Mr Onyonka.

 

Speaking at a press conference at Parliament, Mr Onyonka said the Al Shaabab would first have to renounce violence as means to an end and anything they would want to do in Somalia.

 

“If they don’t renounce violence, the Kenyan government shall not discuss anything with them,” he added, saying the negotiations would also have to be guided by the Djibouti Agreement of 2010 and the Kampala Accord.

 

The Djibouti Agreement was signed between the Transitional Federal Government and the Alliance for the Liberation of Somalia in June 2008.

 

The Kampala Agreement was reached in June and led to the formation of the current TFG headed by Sheikh Sharif Sheikh Ahmed.

 

Mr Onyonka said the government would only discuss with the Al Shaabab if there would be guarantees from the group that there would be peace in Somalia, whose conflict has of late posed a threat to the Kenyan economy.

 

He declined to confirm or deny reports by CNN that the Al Shaabab have approached the government for negotiations.

 

Mr Onyonka said the government has also all along known of the presence in Kenya of members of the group linked to the Al Qaeda terror organisation.

 

“We know that some Al Shaabab people have been staying here and it was a deliberate government decision to allow them to stay here, because we were engaged with them,” said Mr Onyonka.

 

He said they had been allowed to stay on because they would not be visiting violence on Kenyans and were at the same time involved in discussions with the government.

 

“The details are available (on) where they own their properties where their monies are…the Kenyan government knows. But even when that is an issue…the position the Kenyan government has had is that we should allow them to have room so we can negotiate with them,” he added.

 

Last week, Internal Security minister Orwa Ojodeh said in Parliament the operation in Somalia would be followed by a swoop in city estates where the Al Shaabab cells and sympathisers are suspected to be.

 

“You are aware of what is going on; this is like a big animal with a tail in Somalia. We are still fighting the tail while the head is resting here in Eastleigh,” said Mr Ojodeh.

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Mr Onyonka said the operation in Somalia is justified as it would also hopefully result in the elimination of the militant group of Islamist fundamentalists.

 

“If you want to kill the snake and cut the tail it will still die, if you cut the tail it will still die…both ways you win,” he explained.

 

He said the government would have to be careful not to harass Kenyans of Somali origin as it goes about its operations to weed out Al Shaabab in Kenya.

 

Mr Onyonka said the government would confiscate the property of the Al Shaabab members and cautioned against ethnic profiling or the harassment of innocent Kenyans.

 

Kenya has asked the president of the Transitional Federation of Government to clarify a statement this week that suggested the Kenyan military is not welcome in that country.

 

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[xiinfaniin]

LOOL

 

Kenya is assuming the role of TFG...or is this another way of saying 'give us a way out'

[Jacaylbaro]

Isn't it too early to give up ??

[Che -Guevara]

“We know that some Al Shaabab people have been staying here and it was a deliberate government decision to allow them to stay here, because we were engaged with them,” said Mr Onyonka.

 

“You are aware of what is going on; this is like a big animal with a tail in Somalia. We are still fighting the tail while the head is resting here in Eastleigh,” said Mr Ojodeh.

 

Mr Onyonka said the government would confiscate the property of the Al Shaabab members and cautioned against ethnic profiling or the harassment of innocent Kenyans

[Mintid Farayar]

So who's really suing for peace - the Kenyans or Al Shabaab? It will become clear shortly.

[xiinfaniin]

Che -Guevara;754510 wrote:

“We know that some Al Shaabab people have been staying here and it was a deliberate government decision to allow them to stay here, because we were engaged with them,” said Mr Onyonka.

 

“You are aware of what is going on; this is like a big animal with a tail in Somalia. We are still fighting the tail while the head is resting here in Eastleigh,” said Mr Ojodeh.

 

Mr Onyonka said the government would confiscate the property of the Al Shaabab members and cautioned against ethnic profiling or the harassment of innocent Kenyans

:D

[Valenteenah.]

Honestly, you couldn't make it up if you tried.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Kenya is fearing for their own Security kenya is really feeling the heat they know they can't win an insurgency war from Alshabaab

 

But i think they should come to some sort of a Political agreement so that we can prevent a full scale war negotiations is the best Solution even though i am optimistic i don't think such an agreement will last for a long period.

 

Border Security needs to be discussed.

Violence.

Refugees Going in to Kenya.

[Che -Guevara]

Abu Mansuur: “Mujaahidiinta waxaan leeyahay Kenya bambooyinka yar yar ka dhaafa ee halagu dhifto jug aad u culus”

 

Sheekh Mukhtaar Roobow (Abu Mansuur) oo ka mid ah saraakiisha ugu sareyso Al Shabab ayaa ugu baaqay dagaalyahanada Shabab in ay Kenya ka jajoojiyaan bambooyinka ay ku tuurayaan, balse ay ugu badalaan jug weyn oo sida uu yiri xanuunjiso.

 

Isaga oo ka hadlayey dibad bax weyn oo loogaga soo horjeeday ciidanka Kenya ee soo galay Soomaaliya oo maanta ka dhacay deegaanka Calamada, ayuu Abu Mansuur ugu baaqay dadka jihaad doonka ah ee ku nool geeska Africa in ay yimaadaan Soomaaliya isla markaana ay kala qeyb galaan dagaal jihaad ah oo uu sheegay in ay la galayaan Kenya.

 

“Mujaahidiinta ku sugan Kenya waxaan leeyahay bambooyinkan yar yar ee aad ku caraadineysaan cadawga iska dhaafa, ee u badala wax ka weyn oo ka nixiyo cadawga jug weyna gaar siiya Kenya,” ayuu yiri Abu Mansuur.

 

Dhanka kale waxa uu sheegay in Kenya ay la galayaan dagaal barakeysan, isaga oo ka codsaday dagaalyahano uu sheegay in ay kasoo jeedaan Kenya oo uu soo tababaray Salax Nabhan iyo Usama Bin Laden in hada lasoo gaaray doorkoodii oo ay shaqadooda qabsadaan sida uu hadalka u dhigay.

 

“Ardaydi uu soo taba baray Saalax Cali Nabhan, iyo kuwi Sheekh Usama, waxaan leeyahay waxaa hada la joogaa dowrkiini ee ciyaara dowrkiina, Kenya waxaan leenahay ogaada waxaa idin gaari doono jab culus,” ayuu intaasi sii raaciyey Abu Mansuur.

 

Dhanka kale Abu Mansuur ayaa sheegay in hadii Kenya ay waxyeelo u geysato Dekada Magaalada Kismaayo ay Al Shabab lacago u doonan doonaan bankiyada dalka Kenya.

 

“Anaga Dekada Kismayo waxaa naga soo galo lacago, hadii Kenyaanka ay wax yeeleyso, ha ogaato Kenya in mujaahidiinta ay lacago kasoo raadsan doonaan Kenya iyaga oo furan doono bankiyada iyo meelaha uu dhaqaalaha kasoo galo,” ayuu yiri.

 

Al Shabab ayaa maanta ka sameeyey deegaanada Calamada, Ceelasha Biyaha, Afgooye, Jowhar, Ceelbuur, Baladweyne iyo Marko iyo deegaano kale oo ay maamulaan banaabax ay kaga soo horjeedaan fara gelinta ciidamada Kenya ee soo galay gudaha Soomaaliya.

 

Horseed Media

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Abu Mansuur: “Mujaahidiinta waxaan leeyahay Kenya bambooyinka yar yar ka dhaafa ee halagu dhifto jug aad u culus”

lool Abu maansuur war bal u kaadi

[Che -Guevara]

“Mujaahidiinta ku sugan Kenya waxaan leeyahay bambooyinkan yar yar ee aad ku caraadineysaan cadawga iska dhaafa, ee u badala wax ka weyn oo ka nixiyo cadawga jug weyna gaar siiya Kenya,” ayuu yiri Abu Mansuur.

 

“Ardaydi uu soo taba baray Saalax Cali Nabhan, iyo kuwi Sheekh Usama, waxaan leeyahay waxaa hada la joogaa dowrkiini ee ciyaara dowrkiina, Kenya waxaan leenahay ogaada waxaa idin gaari doono jab culus,” ayuu intaasi sii raaciyey Abu Mansuur

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Last week, Internal Security minister Orwa Ojodeh said in Parliament the operation in Somalia would be followed by a swoop in city estates where the Al Shaabab cells and sympathisers are suspected to be.

 

“You are aware of what is going on; this is like a big animal with a tail in Somalia. We are still fighting the tail while the head is resting here in Eastleigh,” said Mr Ojodeh.

So long, Ojode. Mas uu sheegaaye amuu helay shalay asaga iyo Saitoti.

[burahadeer]

they will confiscate innocent properties, loophole for corrupt police & harassment.Time for somalis take their business back to Mogadishu or else.