Muriidi Posted March 16, 2010 a. i asked a family to marry their daughter.they said ok,everybody was at the expensive wedding... or b. when the daughter was 17,she asked her parents if she could move to her aunt in mogadishu.she came back 2 years later with a man and a baby. option b. is more according to sharia,being more discrete(for the pluralism) and granting more individual freedom. option a. , although not according,does not deserve an explicit "no" from the sharia. in the 70's this would have caused a shockwave of riots in places like karachi and hargeisa. literal application vs. implementation of sharia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muriidi Posted March 17, 2010 sorry ,correction : there's no confilict. literal application and/or implementation. it's not like were debating mussolin vs.ghandi; it's just mohamed ali and/or bruce lee ...no conflicts there... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Complicated Posted March 17, 2010 Muriidi is onto something, bal wad sheekada xaaji. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muriidi Posted October 10, 2010 Holy Bible Exodus 38 (24)All the gold that was occupied for the work in all the work of the holy place, even the gold of the offering, was twenty and nine talents, and seven hundred and thirty shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary. (25)And the silver of them that were numbered of the congregation was an hundred talents, and a thousand seven hundred and threescore and fifteen shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary. :::::: moalim abchaasi say: notice that shekel of the sanctuary means "legal-tender/currency" or valuta gold or silver is the currency still used by ahlu-kitab who decided to go with the muslims but maybe still have some questions open like "the samiri" and "qarun" the ahlu-kitab were the minority and the money was gathered anonymously ,no one knowing which was jizya and which was zakaat but God. ------------------------------------------------ Exodus 21 (28)If an ox gore a man or a woman, that they die: then the ox shall be surely stoned, and his flesh shall not be eaten; but the owner of the ox shall be quit. (29)But if the ox were wont to push with his horn in time past, and it hath been testified to his owner, and he hath not kept him in, but that he hath killed a man or a woman; the ox shall be stoned, and his owner also shall be put to death. (30)If there be laid on him a sum of money, then he shall give for the ransom of his life whatsoever is laid upon him. 31Whether he have gored a son, or have gored a daughter, according to this judgment shall it be done unto him. (32)If the ox shall push a manservant or a maidservant; he shall give unto their master thirty shekels of silver, and the ox shall be stoned. (33)And if a man shall open a pit, or if a man shall dig a pit, and not cover it, and an ox or an *** fall therein; (34)The owner of the pit shall make it good, and give money unto the owner of them; and the dead beast shall be his. (35)And if one man's ox hurt another's, that he die; then they shall sell the live ox, and divide the money of it; and the dead ox also they shall divide. (36)Or if it be known that the ox hath used to push in time past, and his owner hath not kept him in; he shall surely pay ox for ox; and the dead shall be his own. :::::::: moalim abchaasi say : in these Holy Verses , silver and gold were still legal tender/currency or are legal tender/currency in certain jurisdictions of ahlu-kitab autonomy notice all the trouble that can come from loss of anonymity .. and ahlu kitab being clearly recognizable in society .. no sanctuary of the soul shekels .. just gold and silver shekels. 2 examples of : possibly the jurisdiction of transport (ox) the jurisdiction of shops (open a pit) or what i'm trying to say : no discretion .. terrible ! if at least the ahlu-kitab would move to another country or let the muslims move away .. don't tell me that as a muslim you still don't know that national governments have expired .. and have turned into some sort of literature-club the money we use is neither gold/silver nor is it considered the shekel of the sanctuary anymore! also our passports , marriage certificates and birth certificates don't work anymore .. please .. stop making fun of people and make the change .. or it will be understood as hurting ahlu-kitab which are under muslim protection .. moalim abchaasi say so Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muriidi Posted October 12, 2010 moalim abchaasi got a little excited there... sir , i think the best solution is not to make it an issue , especially not in the islam-section it's just duniya , and it's just a game and if that form of game starts to hurt people for no good reason ,i'm sure God will inspire duniya entrepeneurs to modify it . your students, waaxid calitari Allah said : اعوذ بالله من الشيطان الرجيم They are the ones who say: "Spend not on those who are with Allah's Messenger, until they desert him." And to Allah belong the treasures of the heavens and the earth, but the hypocrites comprehend not. (63:7) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
