Knight of Wisdom Posted October 25, 2011 The creation of Hawa from Adam's Ribs or the birth of Prophet Isa from the Virgin Maryam? Let's put Prophet Adam aside. He is in a whole different level. lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted October 25, 2011 The symbolism behind Hawa being from Adam's Rib is an antithesis to the thinking of our times. For women to have been created 2nd and from a Man's body part - that is blasphemous to the modern Apple generation psycho fanatics. The birth of Prophet of Isa is a testament to the God's attribute as the Creator and the Fashioner. For all things are possible with God and God can break all the rules to make a statement. To prove that God is Greater then what he has created, what he has said and what has done. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 25, 2011 "The symbolism behind Hawa being from Adam's Rib is an antithesis to the thinking of our times. For women to have been created 2nd and from a Man's body part - that is blasphemous to the modern Apple generation psycho fanatics." It seems to bother you much as well....loool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of Wisdom Posted October 25, 2011 Che -Guevara;753724 wrote: "The symbolism behind Hawa being from Adam's Rib is an antithesis to the thinking of our times. For women to have been created 2nd and from a Man's body part - that is blasphemous to the modern Apple generation psycho fanatics." It seems to bother you much as well....loool Lol, I was thinking the same thing. We were not talking about the symbolism of Hawa's creation from Adam's ribs. We're talking about which of the two holds a greater magnitude in Human understanding. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted October 25, 2011 For the Christian world, it is definitely the birth of Jesus/Isa. For the ahl al kitab (jews, muslims and christians), it is the story of the creation of Man (this includes the creation of Hawa). For the majority of people, both events are not relevant and important because they point to religious dogma - which is by and large a social taboo. Che, do you know what they call black people in Boston? Hint: Its the day of the week everybody dislikes. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of Wisdom Posted October 25, 2011 So, Religion in general has become a "social taboo"? lol Since when? Both, Adam's creation, Hawa's creation and Isa (Jesus) creation can't be proven. What do you think of that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted October 25, 2011 Khayr;753745 wrote: Che, do you know what they call black people in Boston? Hint: Its the day of the week everybody dislikes. I'm not sure where you are going with this. p.s. I love Mondays. And you must be working with some militant atheist. You are on the draw and ready for battle even there's none. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nabad_dadaye Posted October 25, 2011 Knight of Wisdom;753751 wrote: So, Religion in general has become a "social taboo"? lol Since when? Both, Adam's creation, Hawa's creation and Isa (Jesus) creation can't be proven. What do you think of that? qofka muslimka ah uma baahno inuu waxbadan isku wareeriyo jawaabta su'aashan , Eebana wuxuu Quraankiisa ku leeyahay '' haduu Eeba doono inuu abuuro wuxuu dhahaa noqo ,wixiina wey noqdaan'' . abuurista nabi ciise (caleyhis-salaam) , ee aabo la'aanta waa mucjiso , abuurista Adamna waa mucjiso , abuurista xaawana waa mucjiso , mucjisana waa wax uu science cadeyn karin , sida nabi ciise uu udaaweyn jiray qof baras qabo isagoon dhaqtar ahayn , sida nabi muuse markuu ku dhuftay bada ushiisa eyna labo kala noqotay , sida nabi muxamed isagoo ummi ah uu oga hadlay waxyaalo dhici doono sanado ka dib , sida yaa la hor furan doonaa roma iyo qusdhandhiiniya (turkiya ) , rasuulkana uu yiri qusdhandhiiniya , waxaana la furtay magaaladaas 800 oo sano kadib nabiga dhimashadiisa . waxaasoo idil laguma cadeyn karo seynis ahaan balse inaad aaminto waxaa kuu fududeynayo waxyaalaha kale een mucjisada ahayn ee saynisku uu cadeeyay . nabi ciise wuxuu yiri aniga wax ma awoodo balse aabahey(almighty God) ayaa wax walbo awoodo . Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Knight of Wisdom Posted October 25, 2011 Nabad_dadaye;753758 wrote: qofka muslimka ah uma baahno inuu waxbadan isku wareeriyo jawaabta su'aashan , Eebana wuxuu Quraankiisa ku leeyahay '' haduu Eeba doono inuu abuuro wuxuu dhahaa noqo ,wixiina wey noqdaan'' . abuurista nabi ciise (caleyhis-salaam) , ee aabo la'aanta waa mucjiso , abuurista Adamna waa mucjiso , abuurista xaawana waa mucjiso , mucjisana waa wax uu science cadeyn karin , sida nabi ciise uu udaaweyn jiray qof baras qabo isagoon dhaqtar ahayn , sida nabi muuse markuu ku dhuftay bada ushiisa eyna labo kala noqotay , sida nabi muxamed isagoo ummi ah uu oga hadlay waxyaalo dhici doono sanado ka dib , sida yaa la hor furan doonaa roma iyo qusdhandhiiniya (turkiya ) , rasuulkana uu yiri qusdhandhiiniya , waxaana la furtay magaaladaas 800 oo sano kadib nabiga dhimashadiisa . waxaasoo idil laguma cadeyn karo seynis ahaan balse inaad aaminto waxaa kuu fududeynayo waxyaalaha kale een mucjisada ahayn ee saynisku uu cadeeyay . nabi ciise wuxuu yiri aniga wax ma awoodo balse aabahey(almighty God) ayaa wax walbo awoodo . Thank you for your input. I read it and I fully understood it. That is indeed what I uphold to as well. However, when I said that there isn't any substantial evidence to the miraculous birth of Isa son of Maryam, the fatherless and motherless of Adam and the creation of Hawa from Adam's ribs, that comment isn't to downgrade Islam, but to show that FAITH isn't only about having proof, but to BELIEVE the words in the scripture. It is BELIEVE that divides between a "believer" and a "Non-Believer", and not "Proofs". Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manahel.fatima Posted October 27, 2011 Both have their own importance like If Hawa was not made from ribs of Adam then Maryam will not be in his world. and making a virgin women a mother is also one of the best wonders of ALLAH He want to show his power through this. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoomaySultan Posted October 28, 2011 Allah u Akbar, Ilaahay waxuu yidhi - Abuurtaanka Cirka iyo dhulka aya ka wayn ka dadka - Dont let the little two legged got big headed and ask for miracles, were there is no prophets, miracles and proof of supernaturals guided weapons of the prophets. Ma dhimashada ayaa la proof garynka, ma hurdada mise caqli ayaa la sheegi kara mesha u fadhiyo, the wisdom of the spirit installed in humans is exrraordiary. in fii daalka la aaayah wa ina Rabuka la huwa casiis ul Raxiim. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garnaqsi Posted October 30, 2011 As stories in religion go, I find neither really that fascinating or imaginative. There are far better ones in both the Bible and the Koran, and in elsewhere of course. A drift off but the Ancient Greeks, those guys created some of the greatest supernatural tales ever told. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sharma-arke451 Posted October 30, 2011 Garnaqsi;754868 wrote: A drift off but the Ancient Greeks, those guys created some of the greatest supernatural tales ever told. if you mean atheism, may be it holds. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Garnaqsi Posted October 30, 2011 sharma-arke451;754874 wrote: if you mean atheism, may be it holds. What do you mean? :confused: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aaliyyah Posted October 31, 2011 Ilaahay qudradiisa wa cajiib..and I find this question a bit retarded lol..no offense intended!..laakin ilaahay waxkasta wuu qadara. And, they are both as amazing.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites