Kenya' s Desires to Demarcate Somalia's ' Exclusive Economic Zone'

[Che -Guevara]

^LoooooooooooL...You are joker.

 

XX...So, let me see your logic, one colonial power transferring territory to another entitles the resulting state to all the lands lost by the first colonizer?

[Jacpher]

Xaaji Xunjuf;752246 wrote:

Well on 7 November 1890 Zanzibar became a British protectorate and on 1 july 1895 the sultanate ceded all of its Coastal possessions to British East Africa the Jubbaland territory became part of British East Africa contemporary Kenya

 

Later Trans-Juba Oltre Giuba was given to the Italian Colonial governor Corrado Zoli and that's how it went now the Kenyans want it back.

On what planet do you spend chewing on grass leaf?

[Abtigiis]

Indeed Dr. Xinn! Our stances are based on our information. We can't base our political stance on hearsays and conspiracy theories. Ironically, kenya might actually be jeopardising its sea interests with this incursion. For I always believe the end of Alshabab will be beneficial for Somalia. It is not like Kenya can enter somalia and annex land or sea without the consent of the phoney authorities in Somalia. If this happens, it will happen because of somalis legendary lack of patriotism, not because of mischief or aggression. Afterall, it is only Somalis who can sell embassy buildings. If Kenya or anyone else comes up with enough funds (even 15,000 usd for each member of the current TFG MPs), the 'motion for breakfast' MPs will table a motion and vote in favour of the Kenyan proposal. But so far, we have to commend these men for making an exception to their greed and for refusing to surrender somali territory.

 

News just in is Faarax-Brawn has actually been consulted about his aggression and is only faking opposition to it. Afterall, he is more of Kenyan than Somali. Close friends tell me he is advising key Kenyan army generals.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Che -Guevara;752252 wrote:

^LoooooooooooL...You are joker.

 

XX...So, let me see your logic, one colonial power transferring territory to another entitles the resulting state to all the lands lost by the first colonizer?

Well that's how the Kenyans mind of logic works if the brits did not transfer the territory to Italy they believe they would have kept the territory the same way they have NFD.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Jacfer sorry i don't chew i have clean bright shining white teeth you wanna see a picture of my teeth

[Che -Guevara]

^I think that's how your logic operates, there's no evidence that's the Kenya think unless you could show us otherwise.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

What evidence do you need their Tanks and troops are rolling inside Somalia as far as ceelwaaq as we speak

[Abtigiis]

I have expressed outrage at the audacity of Kenyans with regard to the marital issues. That doesn't mean I have accepted there is any link between that chicanery and the current incursion into Somalia. I fail to see any plausible connections. Nonetheless, nin sigtay ma noola, and it is better to oppose them wholesale without if and but for their bad intention on the sea front is good enough to startle any genuine somali nationalist.

[xiinfaniin]

^^Prof. Abtigiis , right on!! That is how you fight the private message pressure to support Keyna's invasion. You've made your stance quite eloquently, and there is no going back awoowe.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Abtigis has thrown in the towel and has abandoned Gandi And Ahmed Blackie Abtigis are you supporting Mr Hassan turki and the Jihad against the Kenyan Crusaders?

[Che -Guevara]

XX.....Keep it simple, you said was once theirs and now they are coming to claim. When and where did Kenya since its inception claimed Jubba? Do you have any references, speeches by any leaders, movement dedicated to this cause?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Why Kenya and Ethiopia ought to annex and divide Somalia

 

In the fog of international headlines on finding a financial bail-out in Washington, a rag-tag army of 50 semi-naked men on rickety boats captured a ship carrying 33 T-72 tanks, rocket-propelled grenades and anti-aircraft guns off the coast of Somalia.

 

The capture of mv Faina and the stalemated talks amid the surrounding American and Russian warships made me think that maybe this is the time to find a final solution to the Somali problem.

 

Since 1960, the country has been a lawless state that is a haven for terrorists and pirates. The pirates have told us the destination of the captured weaponry causing tension and panic in Washington, Nairobi and Khartoum. If it is true that the final consignee was the government of Southern Sudan, as they allege, I will be on the same page with the Kibaki government for the first time.I am a fervent supporter of a strategic foreign policy even if it attracts us enemies of such malevolent and despotic regimes as that of Khartoum.

 

Supporting the Southern Sudan government is in our long-term strategic interest and we should not shy from it. The truth of the matter is that as a Western ally, Kenya is an existential enemy of Arab countries, Sudan included.Somalia as a state exists only in world maps. It is a classic case of a failed state. It is a state dismembered into as many independent units as there are sub-clans. Its 90-strong cabinet is emblematic of the actual number of units.

 

The Horn of Africa country has no functioning government. The so-called transitional federal government, led by Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed, is confined to a shell-shocked presidential compound.There is no standing or even sitting army or judicial systems. By all accounts, Somalia is a black hole in international law. Together with Afghanistan and Pakistan they are known as the training grounds and refuge for international terrorism.

 

Kenya has been a victim of such terrorism, leading to near-destruction of its tourism industry. We cannot afford another such attack. We have the potential to develop our tourism to compete with, if not outpace, Egypt and South Africa. But we cannot do so if Somalia continues to be a non-state.

 

Somalia neighbours Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti. Of these, it is only Ethiopia and Kenya that have strategic interest in Somalia. Djibouti is a primitive entrepot that can’t even supply water to its 600,000 people, who are forced to drink that imported from France or Coca Cola. Therefore, Djibouti is out in the quest for the final solution to the Somali puzzle.

 

Kenya and Ethiopia must and ought to dismember Somalia and divide it between themselves along the 4 degrees latitude, each taking all the land below and above the line. The division will make both countries extend their territories by roughly 300,000sq km and additional populations of about five million. Once Kenya and Ethiopia have sent their combined army to Somalia and declared the annexation, we will present to the world a fait accompli.

 

In 1845, America annexed Texas from Mexico and forced the Texan legislature to pass a specific legislation stating that it accepted the annexation. The annexation has stood to date and, for good measure, President George W. Bush is a proud American Texan.

 

For Kenya and Ethiopia, having the Somali legislature to endorse the annexation will be cake-walk. At any given time, most, if not all, Somali legislators are in Nairobi. We will have them convene in one of our hotels and to pass the appropriate statutes dividing their country. When the allied forces liberated Germany from Fuhrer Adolf Hitler, they sent the bill to Berlin.

 

Our cost of annexing Somalia will be settled by Mogadishu. Somalia is known to have huge deposits of oil, natural gas, uranium and iron ore. Immediately after the annexation, we will invite our strategic foreign friends (not China please) to come and exploit the resources for us.

 

Kenyans ought to know that although Somalia is a failed state, its positive statistics are impressive. Without a structured economy, its gross national income per capita is US$600 (Sh40,000), when ours is $550 (Sh36,800). Of its universities that operate without budgets and with armed militia guarding them, three are in Africa’s top 100.

 

International law forbids the use of force by states against the territorial integrity and political independence of others. Somalia doesn’t have either.

 

But the law also recognises irreversible processes like the extinction of states such as in the USSR, emergence of new states from former USSR and Yugoslavia, and annexations like that of Texas. International order hates reversing completed processes, more so if the world is a better place.

 

If we do not annex Somalia and now, we will be a victim of its failed status and pulled down by it. We will not be able to achieve our strategic foreign policy in the region, or attain the Vision 2030 goal.

 

The time to annex and dismember Somalia is now; Washington and Moscow will be grateful

[Che -Guevara]

^Not OpEd piece or blogger's rant, an actual Government Policy papers, leaders endorsing such thing and even mass popular support?

 

On side note, on my recent trip to Kenya, I find out Kenyans actually refer NFD as desert Somali land.

[The Zack]

Jacpher;752251 wrote:

^lol@gafuurada xun. Abtigiis, this is bigger than Kissima awoowe. Now you put the country before the tolka ina adeer. You've left Zaky and his prof. out in the cold.

 

Kenya has come to claim a piece of the pie.

LOL ba'aaa! The nationalism of the Reer Bari folks is only applicable when the issue has nothing to with the Reer Bari themselves and their lands, let's be honest here. Alla mey shabaab qabsadaan garowe iyo boosaaso, we would see good jacphar calling for Jewish support.

 

On the topic, I will not comment on it until I get enough information from the motherland.

[NGONGE]

The article seems to hint at Farmaajo selling the sea out! Hmm, so that was his achievement after all?

 

p.s.

A&T is a typical nationalist.