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Yussuf,

 

I have to disagree with you on this one. I think we have a lot of misconception about what Shias beleive and do. Anyway, this debate is best suited to a new page so we should leave it there.

 

 

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How you know the real beauty of anything? you'll find haters in every corner....not you, not 1,000,000,000,000 website will make any real muslim with Imaan make believe of your nonsence....so you've just wasted your time in SOL......The only one who believes in Allah(SWT)is the real mu'min with conscience that guides him/her through the darkness....I think who ever you're you mised that one...........

 

INNAA LILLAAHI WA INNAA ILEYHI RAAJICUUN!

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Thunder   

:cool: You left out some pics that should show how "Athiests" murdered millions in the past and are still doing murders in places such Europe, South Amera, Asia and Africa. Hitler, ...Stalin.

Where are Bosnia, Chechneya, Jenin, .... and India

pictures?

 

:cool: As for the articles that discuss "Islam" the answers are already on most ISlamic websites.

 

:cool: We muslims don't force others to change thier believes or disbelieves so we'll leave with this " May allah forgive you and giude you to the right path Islam" Aamiin

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Thunder   
:D Adimstrators Hots off to you for being different from most "Somalian website" your courage was noted for allowing "Islam exposed" to posted on this website, otherwise we wouldn't know about it!

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Ariadne   

Daffy duck masha allah brothersister :confused: as to the poster :mad: you are ignore list

subxanna laa.....

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asalamu calykum w.w(muslims only)

 

like our sis Buubto said alot kufars tried to destroy islam, but they didn't and couldn't becouse allah s.w said

 

"they intend to put out the light of Allah(i.e the Religion of islam) with their mouths. But Allah will bring His light to PERFECTION even though the disbelievers hate(it)." surah 61.as-saf, ayah 8.

 

And for that they will never ever succeed.

 

may allah guide us all to the right path.

ameen ameen ameen.

 

wasalaam.

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we are living in a time where it seems most jewish groups atheist Kafir, and especially nowdays in britian, homosexulas feel that its a once in a life time oppotunity to attempt to destory islam, how pathetic they are i made the unfortunate decison to go to that website and so the biggest pile of lies fabricated stories and ill concivied ideas about islam and muslims that clearly can only com from those same people actively fighting against muslim in all those battles around the world.

 

Inshallal allah will destro them all and show these kafir no mercys

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Samafal   

Subhaanalah!!!!!!!! people dont go in this website!!!!!!!it gives horrible picture about islam!!!!!!!!

 

i ask you one quastion mr. islamexposed or whatever you are ( i think this is our x-playa under cover) if islam is barbaric religion as your satanic website claims why are are so many westerners who aducated and sophisticated are joing islam in thusands? why are there little or none muslims who changed their islam?

 

definitely you wont find an answer and you should be.. becouse lot of your kinds tried to shut this true religion of ours but never succeded!!!!!!!!islam is logic and that is why are so many people coming to this true religion even in the most nightmares of all, after september11.

 

your satanic website will not change our religion but in the opposite it will increase our believe in islam and it will not harm us at all.

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Kowneyn   

Bismillaah

Walxamdulillaah

Wa sallaatu wa sallaam cala rasuulillaah

 

On this, xamdiya's qoute of the quran suffices...

Rabbana atim lana nuurana...Allaah perfect(complete) for us our light.

 

To brother yusufaddie becareful not condemn the shia's lest you condemn yourself with your own tongue. Also, understand that the authentic shias do not endorse injuring oneself during these ceremonies, but like anything else some pple go over board. The purpose of the ceremony, however, is pure and well intended...it marks the darkest day in the history of the muslims. The day that the family of the rasuul scws (including infants) were massacred by those who claimed to be muslims. Imagine, like me and you these muslims conclude there prayer with...ALLAAHUMA salli cala Muxammed wa cala AALI Muxammed, Kama Sallaita cala ibrahima wa cala AALI...; or ALLAAH bless Muxammed and the family of Muxammed, the way YOU have blessed Abraham and the family of Abraham...But then went out and massacred this very family. Its the enormity of this crime which has stirred the souls of muslims sunni and shia a like. The shia's (may ALLAAH accept from them)took it one step further and said NEVER AGAIN by making this dark day forever emblazened in our concious by their ceremony and its symbols. They will never let it die until the ummaah comes to terms with this crime and we are true to what we utter daily five times in our prayer.

Allaah says: Ya ayyuha almuminuun lima taquuluuna ma la tafcaluun...Oh believers why do you utter what u dont practice.

 

So while u might criticize the excess of muslims shia or sunnis to condemn them is an entire different issue. In fact considering the state of affairs of the sunnis in this day age to criticise shias is borders on absurd. One only ask the isrealis do who do they fear more the well-armed sea of sunni muslims with weak imaan surrounding them or the otherwise lightly-armed except in imaan hizbullaah. Further the shia although 7-10% of muslims have staunchly gaurded their independence from western domination, while the current sunni states(those claiming to be islamic governments)as symbolized by Saudi Arabia cow-tows to the west and sleeps with the enemy.

 

Salaam

 

Kowneyn

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Kowneyn   

One more point: brother yusufaddie

 

Your statement fighting or trying to destroy Islam surmounts to fighting ALLAAH is a statement that is simple and yet so true and heavy. Every act against it is against ones soul for certainly nothing can harm ALLAAH.

 

Those destined for the fire however can only rush headlong into it.

 

Rabbana atim lana nuurana. Wa kafir cana sayyiaatana. Wa ansurna canil-qawmil-kaafirriin

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Samafal   

salaamu alaikum

 

hi guys there.. kowneyn and yusuf shall i make point here.... Most of the sunu muftis say that shiate are muslims and have their mistakes (like some of them cursing sahabas except alli), but some of them go extreme and say they should not be identified as muslims as long as they curse the great sahabas like umar and abuubakar.

But brother let us not urgue who is muslim and who is not that is up to allah to judge but what i see is that shiates are more active politically than our present suni muslims,but that alone will not make their beliefs right. most of the their beliefs are against the guidelines of our great religion.

 

kowneyn brother,

enlighten us where muslims massacred our prophet's family? i as a one, have never known that!!!!!!!!

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Kowneyn   

Salaam again:

Yacquub:

 

The point I was making was that pple in glass houses should not throw stones. Secondly, both sunnis and shias are politically active but in different ways and guided by different principals.

 

This labelling of muslims kuffaar and mushrikiins is the new phenomenon of this age of fitna. One should be absolutely sure. For the rasuul scws said if one muslim calls another kaffir then surely one of them is.

 

Here some account of what u requested:

 

The Shi'ites are a small faction of the Muslim population marked by their dedication to martyrdom, who today control only the nation of Iran. These people originally lived in Kufa, modern-day Iraq, and resisted being under the rule of the Syrians. The Shi'ites consist of the followers of the descendants of an ancient Muslim ruler, 'Ali, whose power as a leader was usurped and initiated this movement within the Islamic nation. In 680, a Shi'ite revolt was brutally suppressed at the battle of Karbala. The members of 'Ali's family were brutally murdered. Modern Shi'ites view the loss of this battle not as a disaster, but as Hasayn's deliberate sacrifice, designed to awaken the Muslim population to the sour, selfish state of the Muslim leadership. The battle has, therefore, become the single most important event in Shi'ite history and has made martyrdom an enduring part of their religion.

 

Muhammed, the renowned founder and prophet of the Muslim religion, was replaced after his death by Abu Bakr, Umar, and Uthman. These leaders were older than, but less closely related to, 'Ali, the son-in-law, cousin, and adopted brother of Muhammed. Because of this, a small faction of Muslims thought that 'Ali should have assumed the throne after Muhammed's death and not the other men. After Uthman's death, 'Ali was made "Caliph", the successor to political leadership. 'Ali married Muhammed's daughter, Fatima, and had two sons, Hasan and Husayn. The eldest, Hasan, succeeded 'Ali and gave up the Caliphate to Mu'awiya, the more powerful governor of Syria, but retained the Imamate, the religious leadership of the Muslim world. According to tradition, Hasan was then poisoned by his wife at Mu'awiya's behest. His younger brother, Husayn, succeeded him at the age of 46 in 49/669, and roughly ten years later Mu'awiya died to leave his son Yazid with the Caliphate.

 

Yazid was known as a drunkard and as one who did not follow the Muslim law. As a result, the Kufans wanted Husayn, still the Imam (religious leader), to come and rule in their city. If the Kufans could succeed, their city would become very powerful, independent of Yazid. Husayn decided to leave Mecca where he had been living to fulfill the Kufan's request, although many of his advisors told him not to go since he had little military support. Husayn set out to restore the religious leadership amidst this advice, taking fifty armed men and the women and children of his family with him.

 

While Husayn was on his way to answer the call of the Kufans, Yazid jumped ahead of him and set up a governor in Kufa to put down the would-be rebellion. This governor executed some suspected supporters of Husayn, paid off other followers, and sent Al-Hurr (a young military leader), with a thousand men to prevent Husayn from entering any city in the area. Husayn responded to Al-Hurr by showing him the letters he had received from the Kufans and sharing his water with Al-Hurr's thirsty soldiers. Then Husayn led the entire group in prayer. He acquiesced to the order to leave and started traveling, reaching the plains of Karbala on Muharram 2nd 61 (October 2nd 680). Al-Hurr's army followed Husayn and interestingly enough, was moved to join Husayn's group where he remained throughout the battle. The next day four thousand troops showed up under the leadership of Ibn Sa'd with the purpose of making Husayn swear allegiance to Yazid before allowing him to return to Mecca. This army cut off Husayn's party from water to force them to comply; at this point Husayn asked his family and friends to leave, but they would not. Husayn told Ibn Sa'd that he wanted to leave to go to Arabia and would cause no trouble. But Ibn Sa'd had been promised another position if he got Husayn to surrender to Yazid's leadership, and if Husayn did not, Ibn Sa'd would be relieved of his position. Consequently, on October 10th, the meager army with the prophet Husayn was attacked and slaughtered by the large army accompanying Ibn Sa'd. Husayn went forward carrying his infant son in his arms and begged for water for him; the army responded by shooting the child through the throat with an arrow. Then the army converged upon Husayn and murdered him. The women and children were taken captive and the dead fighting men's heads were put on spears and paraded around Kufa. Husayn's head was eventually sent on to Yazid in Damascus. Husayn had one son left to him and his sister begged his life from the governor of Kufa. Yazid eventually released the captives, probably because he was already hurting his political position by having killed Husayn, the founding prophet's grandson.

 

Shi'ites today interpret Husayn's actions as sacrificial. It was vital for Husayn, as the Imam and religious leader, to let himself be mistreated in order to make the statement that any ruler who governed by military force instead of by the authority of Allah was wicked. That is why this event, and therefore martyrdom, is still celebrated by Shi'ites today. Consider Ashura, the commemoration of Husayn's martyrdom, when Shi'ite men hit themselves in the forehead to make themselves bleed. "It would be difficult to exaggerate the impact and importance of the martyrdom of Husayn for Shi'ites. Although it was the usurpation of 'Ali's rights that is looked upon by Shi'ites as the event initiating their movement and giving it intellectual justification, it was Husayn's martyrdom that gave it its impetus and implanted its ideas deep in the heart of the people" (32-33, Momen). The Shi'ites are still traditionally an oppressed faction of Islam, being persecuted by the majority Sunnis. They remain less educated, poorer, and often more militant than the other groups in Islam.

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