Armstrong Posted November 9, 2003 Are you nomads aware of the recent bombardments on Saudi suspectly by (those that rebel against Muslim rulers) and terrorists. Even they tried to attack Mecca? SubhanaAllaah whats the world coming to even in Ramadhaan these people are hungry for blood of innocent victims :confused: Its shows truly a sad case Yesterday Muslims were attacked and many died including bare children ina lilaah wa inaa ilayhi raajicuun. Check out the below BBC article, this is the only source I have thus far. The articles contents are not my responsibility if there are mistakes to be discovered I aint liable. Just copied and pasted. -------------------------------------------------- Riyadh attack death toll mounts The blasts caused widespread damage at the compound Seventeen people, including five children, have been killed by a suicide bomb attack on a housing complex in the Saudi capital, Riyadh, according to the latest interior ministry figures. Among the dead are Saudis, Sudanese and Egyptians, Saudi officials said. More than 100 people, among them 36 children, were injured at the compound, mainly home to foreign Arab workers. Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef vowed to "get the perpetrators no matter how long it takes" and urged them to "stop or surrender". Al-Qaeda blamed Saudi officials said the attack bore the hallmarks of al-Qaeda, which carried out a similar strike in May, but it is not clear why the compound was hit. International condemnation of the attack was swift, and Arab countries in particular expressed shock that it took place during the Muslim holy month of Ramadan. VIOLENT WEEK IN THE KINGDOM 3 Nov: Police kill two 'militants' in Mecca, capture six 6 Nov: Two al-Qaeda suspects blow themselves up in Mecca in shoot-out with police 6 Nov: Riyadh police shoot dead third suspect from Mecca 8 Nov: US diplomatic missions closed amid "terrorist threat" 9 Nov: Compound attacked One American is wounded and another not accounted for, according to a US official. The nationalities of all those killed is not clear, although the Lebanese authorities said some of their nationals were among the dead. Saudi security sources said the attackers got in by posing as guards and used a vehicle which looked like a police car. Saudi police in Mecca recently uncovered a suspected al-Qaeda cell believed to be planning attacks. Reference: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3254385.stm Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuCkY Posted November 9, 2003 Yes i have heard about that-its reaLLy pathetic. Khawaarij (those that rebel against Muslim rulers) and terrorists Are they musLims? Here is a Link for more info: Saudi Bombing 1 Saudi Bombing 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted November 9, 2003 Salaamz, I sometimes wonder about muslims. U're emotions and allegiances are easily swayed. Give the benefit of the doubt always to the muslims and not what u hear from the nonmuslims/kuffar. I don't think that any alim in their right mind would command any muslims to carry out bombings in Mecca or against muslims during Ramadan. Give the Muslims the benefit of the doubt and have control over your emotions. They look for these opportunities to crack at the muslims. Fi Amanallah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armstrong Posted November 9, 2003 ^^ give the benefit of doubt to those who want to attack Mecca? You must be a'ving a laugh son. How can we have sympathy for those who are blood hungry preying on innocent victims? They killed approximately 17 children, likely each of those children had dreams to fulfil, to one day become a better Muslim perhaps, to work and earn a living, to have their own family, to be successful in this life and the next and suddenly out of the wilderness ( even tho its qadar) a bunch of Sylvester Stallone wannabees wanting to play Rambo bombed them to shredded morsels of flesh, blood spilling all over Riyadh's dwellings, even in some cases their parents cannot identify the bodies due to nature of destruction, the coroners probably have to utilise their teeth for that purpose Anyone with an ounce weight of justice embedded within their hearts would never sympathise with such vile and malicious criminals. Peace, Mujahid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Armstrong Posted November 9, 2003 Lucky, Its not our position to debate whether they Muslim or not. Fact of the matter is that these folks are dangerous, armed and willing to do any thing it takes to achieve their goals. Patience :cool: Peace, Mujahid. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LuCkY Posted November 9, 2003 Im not Looking for a debate i was just curious. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sayfulaah-almasluul Posted November 10, 2003 Originally posted by Mujahid: Lucky, Its not our position to debate whether they Muslim or not. Fact of the matter is that these folks are dangerous, armed and willing to do any thing it takes to achieve their goals. Patience :cool: Peace, Mujahid. i absolutely agree with u lucy it is not our responsibllity to debate whether they are moslims or not, but one is absolutely for sure they are dangerous,their victimes are children and moslim people, even if the victimes are kufur it is not still islamicaly right.killing innocent people no matter who they are is prohibited in islam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted November 10, 2003 Salaamz, If someone said that they were Somali, u nomads would say 'Where's the Proof' and would be crying out about how people shouldn't jump to conclusions. But since Somalis are not the suspects here, the fingers are easier to point. Oh, they say Al-Qaeda did it, then it looks like there work. So those wackos did it. O, they say some muslims did it, well then they must have did it, those wackos. DOUBLE STANDARDS!!! Every thought as to how what group this bombing would benefit the most? The SAUDI REGIME and their American Allies. Cause then people would say that Arabia is not a safe place and that they are right to crack down on Muslim Movements or anyone that goes against the Saudis or says a word against them. After all, they MUSLIM RULERS who have only Supported the U.S. to attack other MUSLIM Nations and pays the U.S. for their protection. Control Emotions and inshallah, lets think and analyze things from mutliple angles. I was definitely horrified to hear such news but I don't associate myself with anymuslims that want to bomb other muslims or want to carry out attacks in the Harmain (Holy Lands). Fi Amanallah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkerman Posted November 10, 2003 This are very worrying times. Even in this blessed month, in he birthplace of our Prohpet muhammed (SAW), there are (allegedly) Muslims who carry out these kinds of acts. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sophist Posted November 10, 2003 So you think that Fahad and his cohorts are Muslim Rulers? Akhii Kharariji is really fitnatic word. Be careful who you use against. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haashim Posted November 10, 2003 Mujaahid Bro, you're absouletly right to be against those who are hungry for muslim and non muslim inocent blood, but remember these people were not new, they were operating many years(and still operate) in many muslim countries such as Algeria, Egypt, Afghanistan, Somalia and they killed many women and childrens in these countries in the name of Islam and sometimes beautiful but wrongly interpreted Slogans, such as (ALLAH is the only RULER, fighting against DHAAQUUT, SHIRKI, BIDA' enz.). muslim people were suffering the acts of these groups in many years. those muslims who died in Riyadh (ilaahay ha u naxariistee) are the same who died in algerian villages, and in Somalia we have to not deferntiate muslims. YES, MAKKAH is not like Rabbat, but have you ever asked yourself where these people come from? what kind of creed they believe? who teaches them? who mislead them? why they're fighting for? enz. if we know some answers of these questions we would not react emotionally but rather to find a comperhensive solution about these problem. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
N.O.R.F Posted November 10, 2003 There could be a revolution in Saudi Arabia, it could be long or it could take a long time, with many casualties in the process. As to whether its in the right direction for the muslim ummah,allah know best! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sophist Posted November 10, 2003 Now there are Khawaariij in Somalia who killed innocent women and children? Muraad, enlighten my fellow, i would like to think i know a bit about the Islamic movement in Somalia, it is hostrical beginings and current predicament they found themselves in. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coloow Posted November 10, 2003 Afka carabta iskuma fiicanine...bal inoo sharaxa macnaha khawaariji! Mahadsanidiin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jamster Posted November 10, 2003 Entep: Kharaja= waa kabaxay, yakhruju= wuu baxayaa, khaarijan= midka baxay. Ta'**** ahaan waa saas weeye. http://www.thewahhabimyth.com/khawarij.htm What is a Khariji and Who are the Khawarij? Khariji or Kharijite: a follower of the Khawarij, or the attribute of following the Khawarij. Khawarij: the group that expels people from the fold of Islam upon innovated principles and revolts against the rulers, causing much turmoil throughout the land The original Khawarij were the descendents of a man named Dhul-Khuwaysarah, as prophesied by the Messenger of Allah (may Allah raise his rank and grant him peace). They are the sect that were responsible for the killing of many of his companions. They differ from the followers of the Salaf (the Prophet and his companions) in that they do not restrict themselves to the understanding which the Salaf had when applying texts related to takfir (excommunication). Hence, they use textual evidences, but fall short in understanding them. This is why the likes of Osama Bin Laden make unrestricted takfir. Regarding the Khawarij, Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, one of the great Salafi scholars of this time, said: "So having enthusiasm and an over-protective love for the religion is not sufficient. They must be founded upon knowledge and understanding of Allah's religion." - abridged from the book: The 'Wahhabi' Myth Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan, Lamha 'an-il-Firaqid-Daallah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites