Jacaylbaro Posted September 14, 2011 New-york (Ramaas) Sept 13, 2011 – Dawladda Somaliland iyo wadamada joogtada ku ah golaha amaanka qaramada midoobay ayaa shalay kulan garnaqsi ah ku yeeshay xarunta qaramada midoobay ee New-york, kulankaas oo ka dambeeyay codsi Somaliland hore ugu dirtay wadamada rigliga ku ah qaramada midoobay. Kulankan oo uu Somaliland u matalayey wasiirka wasaaradda arimaha dibada Dr Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar ayaa gundhigiisu ahaa sidii wadamada Ruushka, Maraykanka, Ingiriiska, Shiinaha iyo Faraniisku doorkooda uga qaadan lahaayeen qadiyadda madax-banaanida Somaliland isla markaana ay hormuud ugu noqon lahaayeen aqoonsi Somaliland ka hesho beesha caalamka. Wasiirka oo u waramay warbaahinta markii kulankan loogu yeedhay ayaa ku sheegay mid ka dambeeyay codsi Somaliland hore ugu dirtay qaramada midoobay, isaga oo sidoo kalena sheegay in Somaliland ay xaq u leedahay in beesha caalamku aqoonsato, isla markaana gacan muuqata ay ka geysato dedaalka Somaliland ee dhinacyada nabadgelyada, dhaqaalaha, dimuqraadiyada, la dagaalanka argagixisada iyo budhcad-baddeeda iyo weliba dhismaha dawladdnimo oo ku dhisan maamul wanaag. Dr Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar, waxa uu sheegay in nuxurka dooda uu la galay golaha amaanka qaramada midoobay ahayd taariikhda dhabta ah ee Somaliland, waxa ay qabsatay ee ay xudunta u yihiin dawladdnimada ku dhisan nabadgelyada, maamul wanaaga iyo dimuqraadiyada iyo weliba doorka ay kaga jirto nabadgelyada mandaqada Geeska Afrika, la dagaalanka argagixisada iyo budhcad baddeeda iyo sida uu aqoonsiga Somaliland dan ugu yahay nabadgelyo waarta oo ka hano-qaada Geeska Afrika. Wasiirka Arrimaha dibeddu waxa uu sheegay in uu ka qayb galayaashii kulanka taabsiiyey sida ay Somaliland u tabayso taageeradii beesha caalamka, iyadda oo sidoo kalena xubnaha matalayey dawladaha rigliga ku ah golaha amaanka qaramada midoobay ayaa iyaguna su’aalo xidhiidh ah wasiirka arimaha dibada ka waydiiyay xaaladda Somaliland iyo waxyaabaha muhiimka ay ugu tahay aqoonsi ay beesha caalamka ka hesho. Dhinaca kale, raysal-wasaaraha dawlada ku meel-gaadhka ah ee Soomaliya Dr Cabdi-weli Maxamed Cali (Gaas) ayaa xalay ka dhoofay Magaaladda Muqdisho isaga oo ku sii jeeda Magaaladda New-york, iyadda oo la sheegay inuu halkaasi kaga qayb-gali doono shir golaha amaanka qaramada midoobay ku yeelanayaan Magaaladda New-york, kaas oo ku beegan 14-ka bishan September. Kulankan raysal-wasaaraha dalka Soomaliya lagu casuumay ee golaha amaanka qaramada midoobay yeelanayaan ayaa waxa uu daba socdaa kulanka ay golaha amaanku la yeesheen Dr Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar. Warku waxa uu intaa ku darayaa in shirkan golaha amaanku la yeesheen Wasiirka arimaha dibada Somaliland lagu soo qaaday arimo la xidhiidha xaaladda Somaliya, iyadda oo la filayo in Dr Maxamed Cabdilaahi Cumar iyo Raysal-wasaare Gaas ay si wada jir ah uga qayb-galaan kulankaas barri ay yeelanayaan golaha amaanku, iyadda oo aan ilaa hadda la garanayn waxa uu daaran yahay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted September 14, 2011 Mahiga deputy traveled to Hargeysa earlier to communicate to Somaliland USC expectations of Somaliland to participate in Somalia's national conference organized by the UN. Even earlier than that, and when UN Security C met in Nairobi with Somali stakeholders, Somaliland reps were told what they are expected to do. Later Somaliland reps mischaracterized the nature of the conference for media conception. I am hearing the argument Somaliland is making in these forums is that they will do what the UN Security C wants once a non transitional entity emerges from the conference. Looks like this is the only face saving formula left for the secessionists to come back and sit down with their brothers. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 14, 2011 Somaliland was always prebared to sitdown and negoitiate once a real Goverment emerges that has a mandate of its people. Nothing new. But hold your horses till a real goverment emerges. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted September 14, 2011 All indications were that our region in the north was attempting to secure recognition before a legitimate government emerges from Somalia's civil war. Oh how misguided! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gheelle.T Posted September 14, 2011 If what you wrote above is true, it will be a set back for the 20 year long dream of recognition and the empty slogans of XX. Tolow caasimada haddii Hargaysa la geeyo Ayoub muxu ku diidi! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 14, 2011 -Its the first time in twenty years that Somaliland was invited before the Security Council(first in Nairobi and now in NY). -More then 10 Ministerial delegations have visited Somaliland in the last 6 months alone! -Siilaanyo has visited more then 8 countries, where he has been invited by the Goverments! In all those meetings Somaliland delivered exactly the same message, that it is seeking recongnition. The foreign policy strategy has been changed(something very common in the art of diplomacy), not the end goal. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted September 14, 2011 Gheelle this is a big setback no doubt, no matter how folks like Carafaat sugarcoat it. Twenty years has passed, and the only thing secessionists can show for all the noises they've been making is a tilted relationship with Ethiopia, which puts them in a strategic disadvantage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 14, 2011 Havent you seen how Siilaanyo was received in all those diffrent countries or how he was sitting, laughing around with Head's of State in South-Sudan. Waligaa isdhaga tir, laakinse ha la yaabin dadka hadee dantooda qabsataa marke qaarna toodi iloowaan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted September 14, 2011 Siilaanyo is statesman leading a polarized people. He is like Pawlenty leading the Tea Party pack Awoowe at the end of the day what is measured is the outcome , and judging by that the separatist movement failed spectacularly. I hope the process of remedying the affects of twenty year indoctrination had on the average folks will be peaceful. Unlike your wicked wishes on fellow Somalis, we do not wish a conflict between the mothers. Watching the First Mother ambushing the Love Mother won't please us awoowe. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wiil Cusub Posted September 14, 2011 Carafaat;746239 wrote: -Its the first time in twenty years that Somaliland was invited before the Security Council(first in Nairobi and now in NY). -More then 10 Ministerial delegations have visited Somaliland in the last 6 months alone! -Siilaanyo has visited more then 8 countries, where he has been invited by the Goverments! In all those meetings Somaliland delivered exactly the same message, that it is seeking recongnition. The foreign policy strategy has been changed(something very common in the art of diplomacy), not the end goal. Exactly Somaliland makes 20 years development doesnt matter with out recognition and still Mogadisho Folk dreams same dream as 1950 SYL dream Somaliweyn. Sinds when is Somaliland gets access to UN security council and world community is siting to listening. Whitch Dream is more realistic Somaliland or Somaliweyn Dream united all 5 Somali Reagans Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Carafaat Posted September 14, 2011 xiinfaniin;746276 wrote: Siilaanyo is statesman leading a polarized people. He is like Pawlenty leading the Tea Party pack Awoowe at the end of the day what is measured is the outcome , and judging by that the separatist movement failed spectacularly. I hope the process of remedying the affects of twenty year indoctrination had on the average folks will be peaceful. Unlike your wicked wishes on fellow Somalis, we do not wish a conflict between the mothers. Watching the First Mother ambushing the Love Mother won't please us awoowe. war ma arintii Bosasso ku cabudhisay. sotaan ku iri anigu wanaag ayaan la dooniyaa umada, oo thread dhan ayaa sameeyay sidii Puntland wax looga xalin lahaaa, oo loo joojin lahaa rabshada ka socota. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted September 15, 2011 For these boys, even the recognition is a set back for them ..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted September 15, 2011 Lol@IRI! Now the NW Somali so-called FM is speaking in an empty board room at the IRI, and JB is acting like it has something to do with the title of the thread. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AfricaOwn Posted September 15, 2011 xiinfaniin;746267 wrote: Gheelle this is a big setback no doubt, no matter how folks like Carafaat sugarcoat it. Twenty years has passed, and the only thing secessionists can show for all the noises they've been making is a tilted relationship with Ethiopia, which puts them in a strategic disadvantage. . Nicely said under the guise of a fellow Somali "brother". You want SL to be invited again to your misery? What has Somalia accomplished during that 20 years? These pathetic selling points need to cease asap. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted September 15, 2011 ^^ :D AfricaOwn, we are here to debunk lies ...that is all awoowe Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites