The Begining of the End-Rebels in Tripoli

[N.O.R.F]

Nuune, saxib the rebels have achieved the unthinkable a year ago. They have managed to get rid of a dictator who has oppressed his own people and exported terror to places like Germany, Scotland and countless african countries (including sending troops to help Ethiopia against Somalia). There is no argument that the man and his family needed to be deposed.

 

What the rebels have done is horrible and they have tarnished their name. This is being carried out by a minority but it doesn't overide their acheivement in getting rid of a brutal dictator who would have leveled Ben Ghazi and killed more people than Assad already has.

[nuune]

^^^

 

but it doesn't overide

their acheivement in getting rid of a brutal dictator

who would have leveled Ben Ghazi and killed more people than Assad already has.

 

Norf, halkaa bal ku yara noqo bal sxb waad ka yara boodey, I am sure 100% you know the facts, and who get the ridding off, naga daa dee sxb, shaqada 99% waxa qabtey waa Faranjiga, Ingiriiska iyo Najaaso(nato).

 

True, if there were a revolution in Libya, it would have being called the great revolution, even the West is calling them Rebels, so they are using them for their interests, hadhowna ku soo fadhiista yaaa la oran, already boor is galiyaaba lagu yiri in recent meetings held in Paris and elsewhere, marka the rebels are weak, and being used and made to abuse anyone whom they think is against the rebels, that is exactly what they are doing.

 

Nato stalled the revolution that was supposed to happen in the Arab world by mobilizing and arming gangs to out a dictator, did the ordinary Egyptians armed themselves, who made the ousting, what about Tunisia, marka the West undermined the Arab Revolution, and there will be no more Arab revolution, the current dictators in the Arab world knows well, and must have learnt great lessons from Libya, now the dictators will arm themselves and will know how to deal if any so called revolutions takes place in their lands.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

lool@Nuune. Keep us updated awoowe.

 

Maanta Tripoli was quiet I assume. Shops are open, people are celebrating on the streets and Gadaffi is hiding in a cave. Tolow Nuune godka cunto ma ugu geyn doonaa saaxiibkiis Gadafi. :D :D

[nuune]

lol Libaax, Gaddafi is not in the country, sxb, I have good sources of his whereabouts, and no, I don't want the million dollar reward put on his head, waad ila yaabeysaan hadaan idiin sheego meeshuu joogo.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

^^Awoowe, where is he?

[nuune]

^^ In South Africa sxb, if you do remember the second Zuma visit to Tripoli(there was even reports of even a recent visit by top South African delegate to Tripoli, and he could have followed them and not the second Zuma visit), markaas ayaa horey loo sii kaxeeyey, and he took Zuma's advice, first Zuma visit to Tripoli was to broke a deal, that didn't work,, now odeyga is resting in South Africa, Gaddafi was not seen after that visit by the South African delegation, the recent Gaddafi audio supports this, the aduio was not made in Libya, if it was made inside Libya, how did he made the recording, how did Al Aruba and Al Aura tv stations in Syria obtained the recordings, if the audio was sent by email, then we all know all the internet providers in Libya were down, or the ones that were working was in the hands of the rebels.

 

 

Just in, The Eutel Sat based in Paris is shutting down the agreement it had with Al Aruba and Al Aura tv stations, the 2 stations use Eutel Sat for broadcasting, this came after they aired Gaddafi messages.

[N.O.R.F]

Nuune, obviously most of the damage was done by NATO. The rebels did the ground work after the bombings. If NATO didn't act Libya would not have been liberated. Ghadaafi is not Mubarak or Ben Ali and the army are not Egyptian.

 

As for what happens next under NATO/Western influence, the Libyan will take their chances. They have their dignity (for the moment). Its the French who they should be wary about.

 

ps shaydaankii at last waad naga badashey

[NASSIR]

Few quotes here from some of the popular blogs @ Times

 

"When [secretary of Defense Leon] Panetta and [the Obama foreign policy adviser Ben] Rhodes argue for the utility of international alliances, the advantages of having indigenous forces leading internal regime change, and the benefits of burden-sharing, they will attract very few sparring partners. If this is what constitutes the ‘Libya Model,’ the model will draw few critics. But since the Libyan revolution is far from over, one would assume the model must also be far from complete. And whatever form it finally takes, it remains to be seen whether its features will transfer to similar crises elsewhere.

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Obama may wish to replicate this supporting role for the United States during future crises but it is hard to see where else in the world such conditions would reappear. Britain, France, Italy and others in Europe perceived critical interests in the Libyan crisis and pushed for action, which the United States eventually supported. Through the NATO alliance, the United States had long military experience with these countries and could thus quickly establish a workable military operation. However, when significant crises occur, say, around the Persian Gulf or in the Asia-Pacific area and critical U.S. interests are at stake, the United States will be less likely to find allies with the same motivation, the same military capabilities, and with the same combat experience to fight alongside its forces. In these cases, the United States will find itself back in the lead, an arrangement its allies have long become used to and likely prefer."Robert Haddick

 

Another, Stanley Kurtz of the National

"United Nations authorization, legal precedents like the controversial Responsibility to Protect (R2P) doctrine, and involvement of the International Criminal Court may seem like irrelevant window-dressing amidst all the power politics. Unfortunately, the internationalist agenda of tying down America’s military with U.N.-backed doctrines and law has probably been advanced by this intervention. It’s true that the unexpectedly difficult course of the war may discourage further R2P-style interventions. Should Obama be reelected, however, U.N. rules and principles will likely continue to gain ground, while congressional approval and war fighting under a robust traditional conception of American national-security interests may suffer as a result.

[Peace Action]

Nuune did you say that Qadaafi did not massacre Africans in Libya? The dictator use to have an orgy of killing whenever he wanted, murder, rape, imprisonment of illegal immigrants just because Itlay gave him 7 billion dollars for the job. This is the curse of Libya from Qadaafi and of course killing innocent Africans who have nothing to do with Qadaafi by some rebels is really despicable and it is good to spread the word to shame those rebels who are committing murder.

The larger point you are missing is that this was an uprising by ordinary Libyans who were fed up with Qadaafi rule and was helped by NATO for their own strategic reasons. The Libyans have enough wealth to be masters of their destiny and they have a good chance of making Libya better for their people.

 

Qadaafi in South Africa? you are joking right? Why would South Africa secretly take Qadaafi without anyone knowing and what benefit would that bring. Qadaafi is wanted by ICC and the big western countires would not allow it. What is goining, you are not known for being inflicted with buufis.

[nuune]

^^ ehehe Buufis, sxb waxan waa reality dee, it is a fact, my sources do tell me that he is in South Africa, but South Africa is part of the International Criminal Court members, so he might not stay there for long but will sneak into Zimbabwe which is not a member of the ICC, so no one will know that he went direct to South Africa otherwise they didn't conform with the ICC conditions, so sooner or later we will hear that he is in Zimbabwe, Angola was seeking him as well, so ninka meelna ma waayayo, kuwii uu quudin jirey afartanka sano ayaa hiil iyo hoo la daba taagan

 

Agree with you that he abused Africans to the extreme, have you heard those Somali stories in Libya, wuu na addoonsan jirey bey dhaheen, and one those female bodyguards was Somali, bahal aan caadi aheyn ayey aheyd oo xoog badan, ma aqaano cuntaduu siin jirey laakin wey buufisneyd.

 

 

Norf, lool, sheydaanka soonkii baa eryey dee, m long time avator is back

 

EDIT: Just in, Rebel sources are claiming that Gaddafi is in Tripoli, in a small district they said they have surrounded, this is the third time they said they surrounded Gaddafi, another reason to carry out some crimes lee waaye camal.

 

EDIT: Fuel shortages, water shortages, no electricity, food shortages, some journalists report that Tripoli became a ghost city

[nuune]

This is one of the guys who beat the woman at Rixos hotel, anyone remember this, the rebels claimed to have captured the guy:

 

 

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You will see the man escorting the woman at 1:54

[Jacaylbaro]

Just in: Some sources report that Qadafi has been seen in Zimbabwe

[Jacaylbaro]

And finally defiant Gaddafi wants to negotiate transfer of power in Libya... Typical of greedy dictator who lost everything.

[Peace Action]

Relaxing in one of his Tripoli homes just over a week ago, during a break from commanding at the front, the fifth son of Libya's ruler was in a defiant mood. Soon, he boasted to the blonde foreigner sitting with him, he would lead his father's regime to a victory over the "rats

 

 

 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8726797/Mutassim-Gaddafis-girlfriend-tells-of-the-final-days-of-Libyan-regime.html

[Dabrow]

Peace Action;743210 wrote:

Relaxing in one of his Tripoli homes just over a week ago, during a break from commanding at the front, the fifth son of Libya's ruler was in a defiant mood. Soon, he boasted to the blonde foreigner sitting with him, he would lead his father's regime to

a victory over the "rats

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8726797/Mutassim-Gaddafis-girlfriend-tells-of-the-final-days-of-Libyan-regime.html

He would have deafeated them. But this another example of west dividing africans and stealing their resources.

And still some africans are cheering for his removal. Until we become master of our own lives africa will never improve.