The Zack Posted August 6, 2011 Che ~ Running away is exactly what you are doing now, you supported shabaab for quite some time now and all of the sudden you are disowning them on the first day of their official defeat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Che -Guevara Posted August 6, 2011 ^Where I have disowned-predicting what might happen to them is not disowning my actions and by the way, if there are defeated it is not because TFG but the simple fact divisions within them, their reaction of famine and their lack of building Government and institutions that can help people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted August 6, 2011 So you still support them, right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldCoast Posted August 6, 2011 Che -Guevara;739074 wrote: Goldcoast-There's deep rift among their factions. This was initially caused by breakdown of relationship between Roobow and Godane factions. Roobow tribesmen paid the highest in terms of executing the war in Mogadishu. Awey's inclusion in AS ranks also raised tensions. The general treatment of the public by AS foot-soldiers was concern as the draconian rules imposed on the people became unbearable and finally, their response to the droughts was amazingly inhumane. Bay, Bakool and Gedo factions were absolutely opposed to the idea of chasing international NGOs since it is residents from these regions that were dying the most. Zack-I don't run away from anything. How do you see their hold dimishing in rest of Southern Somalia? AMISOM mandate is limited to Mogadishu, and TFG and its allies don't seem capable of such an operation. Rifts are relevant but I think it is premature to predict where this goes in the time being. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted August 6, 2011 Nothing new, Alshabaab was instructed by their MASTERS to vacate the city, that is all, oh yeah, their masters as in United States of America. No conspiracy theory, but that is the fact, America has being under constant pressure from the international community for failing to help the famine in Somalia, no word from the State department on the Alshabaab cuz no need for that, waa qiiq isku qaris, tmoro or after few days they will say something like America welcomes such a move. When will we learn that it is outside interference that keeps Somalia the way it is. Also, final point, the news of Alshabaab leaving Mogadishu has interrupted the Ugandan general who was handing the job to another one, there was big feast at Villa, of course no one expected Shanbaad leaving Mogadishu, it was an order from the United States of America telling Alshabaab to disapear for a period of Honeymoon when the famine is over, and come back later with adduunyooy xaalkaa ba'. War bahasha barta, Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted August 6, 2011 ^Inaa lilaahi, the craziest conspiracy I have read in ages. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 6, 2011 haha i agree with u Zack amakaag Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jiiroow Bakaal Posted August 7, 2011 Doqonimada lagu sheego Zack cidihiisa illeyn waa dhab waxuu u heystaa sidii gabar la guri geynaay in AMISOM ay soo galbin doonto GAANDI oo Kismaayo keeni doonto loooool kilinka shanaad gaalka ka cabaadeyso baa kuu dhaama gaalada maanta aa u dabaal degeyso Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted August 7, 2011 ^I don't respond to dogs that just bark for the heck of it, bring some tangible discussion on the table or stfu! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
burahadeer Posted August 7, 2011 can anyone speculate why they get defeated.I thought they were entrenched in the city & work in few groups to cause mayhem.Anyway It's historic day for somalis & see if this is the last nail in the coffin! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bilan Posted August 7, 2011 nuune;739121 wrote: Nothing new, Alshabaab was instructed by their MASTERS to vacate the city, that is all, oh yeah, their masters as in United States of America. No conspiracy theory, but that is the fact, America has being under constant pressure from the international community for failing to help the famine in Somalia, no word from the State department on the Alshabaab cuz no need for that, waa qiiq isku qaris, tmoro or after few days they will say something like America welcomes such a move. When will we learn that it is outside interference that keeps Somalia the way it is. War bahasha barta, Nuune it's about time to listen Muxaadarada Sh. Maxamed Idris, why do we always blame other people. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXO0ouoJTcc Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted August 7, 2011 burahadeer;739184 wrote: can anyone speculate why they get defeated.I thought they were entrenched in the city & work in few groups to cause mayhem.Anyway It's historic day for somalis & see if this is the last nail in the coffin! According to some reliable sources, there were major internal disagreements between the top leaders of the organization mostly related to the famine in the south. . Godane refused any kind of human aid from the "gaalo" food providers, others, led by Robow, have disagreed. After several meetings in somewhere in Shabeelooyinka, Robow ordered all his boys out of Xamar and Ceelbuur. The fact that the AMISOM got stronger and more offensive didn't help them either. Bilan, Nuune maybe kidding but a lot of Somalis like to blame some weird foreigners for all their failures, ilaahay amarkii bey ku dhacday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nina Fox Posted August 7, 2011 AS = Nin gaajeysan aan ilko laheyn oo Baguette qalaley jidka ka heley. They had the means, the support, the nations backing, finance and Diin on their side (if only they didn't twist and turn Kalimatka Allah SWT) and mis-use it to their advantage. A lawless nation needs compassion not threats, it needs care not cruelty, it needs patience not hasty half-baked actions. If only they used their power to influence young people to drop the weapons and follow the diin (in its truest form), distribute medical supplies, allow access of aid coming towards the people dying in their thousands everyday walaahi I believe they would rule without any bumps. Instead they adviced youngsters to strap themselves and kill a fellow Muslim oo aan waxba galabsan. They had the advantage to empower the women by allowing them to work and educate themselves for the future, instead they belittled them, harrassed them, stopped them in the streets and discuss their choice of undergarment. Diin aay faafiyaan iska daayee, qof muslin ah oo masaajid usii socdo ama kasoo baxey ee jidka u istaageen, dariiqa ku gowraceen, broad daylight. If they have the passion to slaughter they shud have opened a Kawaan. Qof dhan oo Allah SWT abuurtey inteey dilaan ee hadane Media intee soo istaagaan dhahayaan hebel GAAL uu ahaa. Who gave them the right to judge and punish people? They got greedy, they de-railed from believing in Allah SWT, provoked the nation with their cheap propoganda and in the end,,,,that fortunately led to their demise. The real game starts now. They will disrobe, mingle with the population and start their good old tactics by covering their faces like my 2 yr old niece and targeting unsuspecting innocent citizens. It aint over.......far from it. May Allah save the poor people from their ignorant wrath (Amiin). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted August 7, 2011 AMISOM: WE DID IT! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bilan Posted August 7, 2011 may be Nuune is kidding, but it seems a lot of us always blame other people. laakiin Jiirka cararaya ma AS, i do not think kuwaas inay that easy ku tagayaan, soon they will start inay wax qarxiyaan, hadayba ka xun yihiin since no one knows meesha ay aadayaan, tolow Godane tuuladiisa maku noqday?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites