The Zack Posted August 6, 2011 Good job president Museveni, I heard they are heading to my places ib Jubba LOL. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 6, 2011 Takfiiri opinions doesn't belong in this thread! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muslim1st-Somali2nd Posted August 6, 2011 Al-Miskiin;738974 wrote: aren't AMISOM our brothers against Al-shabaab? How? How can a person who disbelieved in Allah be your brother? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al-Miskiin Posted August 6, 2011 Oba, are u saying Sh. Sharif is takfeer? Allahu a3lam, u know him best akhi , so maybe it's true since u said it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muslim1st-Somali2nd Posted August 6, 2011 oba hiloowlow;738976 wrote: Takfiiri opinions doesn't belong in this thread! Subhanallah you were quick to label me takfiir, akhi. May Allah save you and us from your ignorance. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al-Miskiin Posted August 6, 2011 Akhi muslim1st, I only quote what Sh. Sharif said. Maybe Oba can answer that question? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
oba hiloowlow Posted August 6, 2011 the supporters of shabaab are truly takfiiris.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boondheere Posted August 6, 2011 khawaarijta al shabaabul shayaadiin xamar ciidamadooda ma aysan kala bixin ee xoog ayaa looga saaray xamar. cagaha ayey wax ka dayeen fuleyaasha qabuuro qotayaasha al shabaabul shayaadiin. ********ta al shabaab gabalkooda ayaa dhacay. inshalah magaalooyinka kale ee ay ku hareen inshalah gumeysiga foolxumada ay ku hayaan shacabka deggan goboladaas waa laga xureynayaa inshalah. guul ciidanka qaranka jamhuuriyada SOMALIA NOOLOOW CALANKA BULUUGA. HA JABAAN WAXUUSHTA QABUURO QOTAYAASHA SHAYAADIINTA AL SHABAAB Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Al-Miskiin Posted August 6, 2011 Are u saying, Sh. Sharif is a supporter of Al-shabaab. Wow so many facts, I've leaned a great deal from you akhi. So far: Sh. Sharif is takfiri, and he supports Al-shabaab. But than again, what about when he said AMISOM/Ethiopia are our brothers? Is he playing both part? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muslim1st-Somali2nd Posted August 6, 2011 Boondheere;738983 wrote: khawaarijta al shabaabul shayaadiin xamar ciidamadooda ma aysan kala bixin ee xoog ayaa looga saaray xamar. cagaha ayey wax ka dayeen fuleyaasha qabuuro qotayaasha al shabaabul shayaadiin. ********ta al shabaab gabalkooda ayaa dhacay. inshalah magaalooyinka kale ee ay ku hareen inshalah gumeysiga foolxumada ay ku hayaan shacabka deggan goboladaas waa laga xureynayaa inshalah. guul ciidanka qaranka jamhuuriyada SOMALIA NOOLOOW CALANKA BULUUGA. HA JABAAN WAXUUSHTA QABUURO QOTAYAASHA SHAYAADIINTA AL SHABAAB Akhi, I would like to remind you that nationalism is something alien to our deen. May Allah save us from the disease of nationalism and tribalism. Ameen. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muslim1st-Somali2nd Posted August 6, 2011 Either oba hiloowlow is an ignorant brother or he is simply trolling around. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boondheere Posted August 6, 2011 allah said waxaan idiin qeybinay shucuub iyo qabiilo qofka idinku sharafta baddana waa qofkii alle ka cabsada. marka somalinimada waa shucuuban. waana waajib in wadankeena aan u dabaaldegno, wadankeena Somalia iyo calanka buluuga aan jeclaano. waa waajib inaan qaranimadeenii soo ceshano. waa waajib in khawaarijta al shabaab iyo argagaxisada suicide bombers in laga tirtiro wadankeena somalia iyo dhamaan wadamada islaamka. maasha allah ciiidanka qaranka somalia allaha barakeeyee waxay eryadeen fuleyada al shabaab. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Boondheere Posted August 6, 2011 ciidanka qaranka somalia waan u hambalyeyneynaa guusha uu allah siiyey. allah waxaan ugu shurkineynaaa halaaga iyo jabbka ku dhacay suicide bombers. student killers. child killer, women killers khawaariji al shabaab has been defeated al xamdulilaah. i just called my family in mogadishu walaahi my big brother first time in 3 years hes back our home in yaaqshiid. people are celebrating, people in mogadishu iyagoo allah ku xamdinaya ayey guryahoodii xaafadaha kaaraan. huriwaa, yaaqshiid. dayniile. cabdicasiis iyo xaafado baddan ku laabanayaan, inasktoo waxuushta al shabaab ay xaafadihiii godod waayeen ay ka qodeen, xitaaa guryihiii dhexdooda ay godod ka qoteen. alxamdulilaah. as reer mogadishu waxaan allah ugu mahdinayaa inay lot of familys in mogadishu are going back to their homes alxamdulilaah. erya erya eryaaay. waa jabeenee jabiya waxuushta khawaarijta. alxamdulilaaah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muslim1st-Somali2nd Posted August 6, 2011 Nationalism is a concept alien to Islam because it calls for unity based on family and tribalistic ties, whereas Islam binds people together on the `Aqeedah, that is belief in Allah (swt) and His Messenger (saaw). Islam calls for the ideological bond. Grouping the Muslims on tribalistic lines is clearly forbidden. It is narrated by Abu Da'wud that the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said, "He is not one us who calls for `Asabiyyah, (nationalism/tribalism) or who fights for `Asabiyyah or who dies for `Asabiyyah." And in another Hadith, the Messenger of Allah (saaw) referring to nationalism, racism, and patriotism said: "Leave it, it is rotten." [Muslim and Bukhari] and in the Hadith recorded in Mishkat al-Masabith, the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said, "He who calls for `Asabiyyah is as if he bit his father's genitals" Also, the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said, narrated by At-Tirmidhi and Abu Dawud, "There are indeed people who boast of their dead ancestors; but in the sight of Allah they are more contemptible than the black beetle that rolls a piece of dung with its nose. Behold, Allah has removed from you the arrogance of the Time of Jahiliyyah (Ignorance) with its boast of ancestral glories. Man is but an Allah-fearing believer or an unfortunate sinner. All people are the children of Adam, and Adam was created out of dust." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Muslim1st-Somali2nd Posted August 6, 2011 Also, the Messenger of Allah (saaw) said, "Undoubtedly Allah has removed from you the pride of arrogance of the age of Jahilliyah (ignorance) and the glorification of ancestors. Now people are of two kinds. Either believers who are aware or transgressors who do wrong. You are all the children of Adam and Adam was made of clay. People should give up their pride in nations because that is a coal from the coals of Hell-fire. If they do not give this up Allah (swt) will consider them lower than the lowly worm which pushes itself through Khara (dung)." [Abu Dawud and Tirmidhi] There are many examples in the Seerah where the Messenger of Allah (saaw) had rebuked those who upheld nationalism. One one occasion a party of Jews conspired to bring about disunity in the ranks of the Muslims after seeing the Aus and Khazraj within Islam. A youth from amongst them was sent to incite remembrance of the battle of Bu'ath where the Aus had been victorious over the Khazraj, and he recited poetry to bring about division between them. As a result there was a call to arms. When the news reached the Messenger of Allah (saaw), he (saaw) said, "O Muslims, remember Allah, remember Allah. Will you act as pagans while I am present with you after Allah has guided you to Islam, and honored you thereby and made a clean break with paganism; delivered you thereby from disbelief; and made you friends thereby?" When they heard this they wept, and embraced each other. This incident clearly highlights how the messenger of Allah (saaw) rebuked any forms of tribalism. Allah (swt) then revealed, "O you who believe! Fear Allah as He should be feared and die not except in a state of Islam with complete submission to Allah. And hold fast, all of you together, to the rope of Allah (i.e. Qur'an), and be not divided among yourselves; and remember with gratitude Allah's favors on you; for you were enemies and He joined your hearts in love, so that by His Grace you became brothers; and you were on the brink of the pit of fire, and He saved you from it. Thus Allah make His signs clear to you that you may be guided." [surah Al'Imran (3); ayah 102-103] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
