Defeat for the secessionists in northern Somalia.

[Carafaat]

You cant compare 'cause' and 'effect'. A lot has been written about the Somali conflict of the past decades . And all scholars and researchers(Somali and non-Somali) agree that cause of the Somali conflic is because of the the governance and policies of the former regime.

[Jacaylbaro]

Bacaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaac

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Every one knows that Somaliland is undefeatable the past two decades show that

[SomaliNationalist]

Saalax;737715 wrote:

The roads were built by the chinese and donar aids. Improvement on healthcare, Agriculture, Forbade tribalism that i agree with you but only to be started again by non other than him by favouring different groups, putting some of his uneducated kinsman to top positions in the government just because of "kinship" and settling unknown refuuge's into other people's lands to change demographics.

The Chinese did not do it for free or for being sweet, they were paid for building the roads by the Somali government, just like today when foreigners are building in the arab gulf states they are paid for it. I agree with you the government became more tribalistic and corrupt after the 1977 war but thats because SSDF and SNM tried to destroy the government with help from the habashi, Jalle Siyad became distrustful when many men he had trusted and made into something betrayed him, Ahmed Silanyo was appointed as finance minister by Jalle Siyad but Ahmed Silanyo fleed the country in 1982 into Ethiopia and was in the next 10 years figthing aganist the same government which made him to something, All these events had psychological impacts in Siad Barre, it was a natural reaction to employ people he could rely on and it was often clan men, his tribalism was provoked by the SSDF and SNM, before 1980 he had given 50% of ministers to the SNM clan and 2 out of 4 vice presidents belonged to the SNM clan. whats wrong with seattling somalis from Western Somalia fleeing genocide in their somali homeland? whats " unknown" about people you share ,religion, languge, nationality, culture, with? was the somali republic not made for the somali people? petty tribalism is your mentality.... the refugees was seattled across Somalia not only in NorthWest, and did you forget the 100000 northwest somalis seattled by the Jalle Siyad government in the souhern regions like ,Gedo, Jubba, Hiraan, under the famine in 1974? those regions also belonged to other clans.......

[SomaliNationalist]

Carafaat;737721 wrote:

You cant compare 'cause' and 'effect'. A lot has been written about the Somali conflict of the past decades . And all scholars and researchers(Somali and non-Somali) agree that cause of the Somali conflic is because of the the governance and policies of the former regime.

Was it the former regime who forced USC to loot all State and private property? or forced USC rebels to rape and murder hundreds of thousands Somali civilians?, or the USC starvation of Bay and Bakool which killed 500000 somalis? or did they force the somalis to figth aganist each other in 20 years? or invite the ethiopians to invade their country in 2006? or the current Shabaab madness? Take responsibility for your actions and do not give a government who died 20 years ago the blame for your crimes.

[Carafaat]

The former regime used the State to enrich the elite of a certain clan. USC is the direct effect of this.

 

The former regime excecuted many wadaads and sheiks, Al Ithixaad and its fundamentislic vieuws were the consequence. And as you know Al ithixaad is the mother of all fundementalistic groups in Somalia.

 

Nothing just happens like that. cause ---- effect

[oba hiloowlow]

MSB haduu xaqdaro wadi laheyn maanta saan ma ahaan laheyn xaalka, forcing dhalinyarro from north and and Galgaduud/Sh dhexe iney dagaalka ethiopia lagula jiray qasab ku galaan, the killings of the culimaa, suuqii bacadlaha gubtay ee xamarweyne u remember that mise kid ba aheyd oo wali laguuma sheegin? MSB qaraabadiis ayaa xilkasta la siin jiray, ninkii MSB tol la ahaa iyo ninkii aan aheyn isku mushaar ma qaadan jirin,, adigana waxaa naga dhaadhicinee miyaa ninkaas inuu fiicnaa?

[SomaliNationalist]

Carafaat;737751 wrote:

The former regime used the State to enrich the elite of a certain clan. USC is the direct effect of this.

 

The former regime excecuted many wadaads and sheiks, Al Ithixaad and its fundamentislic vieuws were the consequence. And as you know Al ithixaad is the mother of all fundementalistic groups in Somalia.

 

Nothing just happens like that. cause ---- effect

Just because few families lived in Boli Qaran that according to you justify mass murder and 20 years of anarchy?, again take responsibility for your actions! 20 years!

 

the so-called imams were killed for committing high treason aganist Somalia and threaten our nations stability after our national security service found out that they were part of an Arab conspiracy against Somalia and attempts to destroy our nation by hideing behind Islam, this conspiracy existed since 1960 and was financed by Saudi Arabia they have triumphed with Al Shabab today, it was this Jalle Siyad tried to prevent.

[SomaliNationalist]

oba hiloowlow;737753 wrote:

MSB haduu xaqdaro wadi laheyn maanta saan ma ahaan laheyn xaalka, forcing dhalinyarro from north and and Galgaduud/Sh dhexe iney dagaalka ethiopia lagula jiray qasab ku galaan, the killings of the culimaa, suuqii bacadlaha gubtay ee xamarweyne u remember that mise kid ba aheyd oo wali laguuma sheegin? MSB qaraabadiis ayaa xilkasta la siin jiray, ninkii MSB tol la ahaa iyo ninkii aan aheyn isku mushaar ma qaadan jirin,, adigana waxaa naga dhaadhicinee miyaa ninkaas inuu fiicnaa?

This most be the most retarded argument, the government was evil because they wanted young men to liberate Somali Galbeed? what movement after siyad barre was better than him? tell us what you personally have done for Somalia? did you try to create a government?

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

the so-called imams were killed for committing high treason aganist Somalia and threaten our nations stability

Preaching the words of Allah the almighty is threatening the security and the stability of the Nation

[Alla-Maxaan-Kulayaabay]

SomaliNationalist;737712 wrote:

Proud to be child of Qudhmis/tratiors/agents of habashi/

 

lool like somaliland exists

9 Posts ayyuu marayaa markaasuu cayda Somaliland ku afbaranayaa. Allaa maxaa dhakh nabiga baratay ayyuu ninkii jiray yidhi.

[oba hiloowlow]

Kiddo iska aamuus lee u dont know what happened after, sarakiishii ugu fiicnayd waa layska dilaaye after 1977 , meeqo Saraakiil ayaa laga dilay reer waqooyiga? Salaad gebeyre kediye maxaa lagu dilay? Ceelashii la sumayn jiray in galgaduud, mudug and waqooyiga? War ninka iyo dowladiisa diyaarado iyo BM ay ku garaacaayeen dadkoodii ee Waqooyi, what the hell is that for a government seriously?

[Dabrow]

Carafaat;737721 wrote:

You cant compare 'cause' and 'effect'. A lot has been written about the Somali conflict of the past decades . And all scholars and researchers(Somali and non-Somali) agree that cause of the Somali conflic is because of the the governance and policies of the former regime.

Yeah Barre goverment was responisble for qabil issues and they are responisble for what brainless people have done to Somalia for the past 20 years. Ps. "ironic"

[Dabrow]

Xaaji Xunjuf;737741 wrote:

Every one knows that Somaliland is undefeatable the past two decades show that

yeah they are like the USA of afria. THe powerhouse, dont underestimate the real power of somalis, and its comes within and not by force. Just by love for Somalia, somaliland will be dismantle by its own people.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

^^ Thats what you love to see and why would the people of Somaliland dismantle their own country have u ever seen the United states dismantle their own country just for the love of canada