Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 26, 2011 The good old days when we kicked *** Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taleexi Posted July 26, 2011 This might have been the beginning of the destruction of Somali Republic as many political pundits of the Horn stated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showqi Posted July 26, 2011 Dagaal, Qabiil iyo Abaaro waa waxa ummadda Soomaaliyeed dabar gooyey ee ha laga tashado saddexdaas..... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 26, 2011 Showqi;736698 wrote: Dagaal, Qabiil iyo Abaaro waa waxa ummadda Soomaaliyeed dabar gooyey ee ha laga tashado saddexdaas..... Indeed clans wars wa wax laga acuudubileysto ,, abaaro na wa in allah la baryo sidi looga bixi laha Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OdaySomali Posted July 26, 2011 Taleexi;736697 wrote: This might have been the beginning of the destruction of Somali Republic as many political pundits of the Horn stated. So many, many mistakes were made over many a period of time, it is hard to say which of those was the turning point, if there was one, to the beginning of the destruction of the Somali republic. The fact is that both the U.S and USSR, as well as the vast majority of African countries were against Somali irridentism in order to [primarily] protect the colonial borders and [ironically] 'save' Africa from the precident Somali irridentism succeeding would set [i.e. tribal irridentism]. Somalia also made many tactical errors which only accelerated their loss. It has been argued that Somalia should have never officially 'interfered' in the liberation of the Somali region of Ethiopia so as to not make it seem as if country A was invading, occupying and anexing [roughly] a third of country B (Ethiopia), which it neighbours, as a stepping stone to invade, occupy and annex a significant portion of country C (Kenya), which it also neigbours, and entirely absorb 'country' D (Djibouti) which it also neighbours. At the time, the superpowers [u.S and USSR], I imagine must have found this extremely arrogant, dangerous and a precedent that might over time endanger their interests; it is this arrogance that lost Somalis the war. There should have been more Samir and tact. It should have been a 'revoltion' or the 'self determination of the Somali region people' without the obvious external motivations and support. In the longer term, Eritrea and South-Sudan have provided examples of what could have been achieved. Anyhow, it is al-qadr. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_Khadar Posted July 26, 2011 That was then, and this is now, 20+ yrs of civil war, famine, external invasions and ongoing distruction.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted July 26, 2011 The Somali republic in 1964 should have invaded kenya instead of Ethiopia Kenya was weak and just gained independence the Somali republic could've easily defeated kenya in the early 60s instead they waged a war against Ethiopia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Som@li Posted July 26, 2011 OdaySomali;736719 wrote: So many, many mistakes were made over many a period of time, it is hard to say which of those was the turning point, if there was one, to the beginning of the destruction of the Somali republic. The fact is that both the U.S and USSR, as well as the vast majority of African countries were against Somali irridentism in order to [primarily] protect the colonial borders and [ironically] 'save' Africa from the precident Somali irridentism succeeding would set [i.e. tribal irridentism]. Somalia also made many tactical errors which only accelerated their loss. It has been argued that Somalia should have never officially 'interfered' in the liberation of the Somali region of Ethiopia so as to not make it seem as if country A was invading, occupying and anexing [roughly] a third of country B (Ethiopia), which it neighbours, as a stepping stone to invade, occupy and annex a significant portion of country C (Kenya), which it also neigbours, and entirely absorb 'country' D (Djibouti) which it also neighbours. At the time, the superpowers [u.S and USSR], I imagine must have found this extremely arrogant, dangerous and a precedent that might over time endanger their interests; it is this arrogance that lost Somalis the war. There should have been more Samir and tact. It should have been a 'revoltion' or the 'self determination of the Somali region people' without the obvious external motivations and support. In the longer term, Eritrea and South-Sudan have provided examples of what could have been achieved. Anyhow, it is al-qadr. Well said, We rush in, and being played and outsmarted by the big powers. Helping the Somalis in those regions revolt would have given us the same goal, but maybe take longer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites