Somalia Is Not a State

[Cambaro]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/timothy-a-ridout/somalia-is-not-a-state_b_894734.html

[Jacaylbaro]

Somaliland declared independence in 1991 and has since become one of the most robust democracies in Africa

Ehem ...

[Suldaanka]

Well, whatever little sovereignty Somalia enjoyed is now firmly under the foot of the Ugandan strongman Yoweri Museveni.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

He made some good points the modern day Somali state ceased to exist 1991 it only existed for 31 years from 1960 till 1991 and the Sheikh dalxiis TFG imposed on the koonfurians created in Djibouti is a total failure, also on the Garowe clan administration its not a secret they are involved in piracy activities themselves.

[Thankful]

Meanwhile,

Puntland

should be given incentives to root out corruption and enhance the rule of law. Assistance should be offered to help build its institutions and professionalize its security apparatus.

Whether it declares full independence

or someday forms a state with southern Somalia

is Puntland's decision to make.

Exactly why no country or governing body will bother recognizing any tribal enclaves, because if the author feels area's can just declare independence then we will be seeing a lot of little somali lands breaking up.

 

Puntland initially flirted with democracy, but it has moved toward a more authoritarian model.

Puntland's first president was Abdullahi Yusuf Ahmed. Though criticized for his strong-arm tactics, he strengthened the state apparatus and helped build institutions.

However, he soon became focused on leveraging his position to become the head of the TFG, and

Puntland started to languish.

It's interesting how history vindicates the just! Regardless of what people dislike and spread lies about AY - for tribal reasons. We saw the receptions he received in Europe and else where when president of Somalia and as this articles shows his legacy is being acknowledged; particularly outside of Somalia.

[Suldaanka]

Thankful;733884 wrote:

Exactly why no country or governing body will bother recognizing any tribal enclaves, because if the author feels area's can just declare independence then we will be seeing a lot of little somali lands breaking up.

 

 

 

It's interesting how history vindicates the just! Regardless of what people dislike and spread lies about AY - for tribal reasons. We saw the receptions he received in Europe and else where when president of Somalia and as this articles shows his legacy is being acknowledged; particularly outside of Somalia.

 

 

^The keyword is "strong-arm tactics" of the former warlord. i.e. bulldozing any opposition within Puntland and killing traditional leaders at point blank with no questions asked. That is vindication for you.

 

Those tactics might have worked in Puntland, but they backfired at him in Mogadishu where even the Amhara tanks couldn't save him from his demise.

[Thankful]

Suldaanka;733887 wrote:

^The keyword is "strong-arm tactics" of the former warlord. i.e. bulldozing any opposition within Puntland and killing traditional leaders at point blank with no questions asked. That is vindication for you.

 

Those tactics might have worked in Puntland, but they backfired at him in Mogadishu where even the Amhara tanks couldn't save him from his demise.

His strong armed tactics had no piracy, we can agree on that right? Or kidnapping right? Maybe he chased Riyaale out of Lascaanod, however the problems we see now, weren't occurring before....can we agree on this?

 

Because of what Puntland was then and now, AY is slowly being vindicated!

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

And thankful thought warlord Abdilahi yusuf was really in charge back than Walad Abdallah was the UN chief playing Chess with the so called Koonfurian Politicians. And melez zanawi was exercising his military might with the blessings of Uncle sam. The sad part is the Koonfurian Politicians don't even know they lost their sovereignty long time ago.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Suldaanka;733887 wrote:

^The keyword is "strong-arm tactics" of the former warlord. i.e. bulldozing any opposition within Puntland and killing traditional leaders at point blank with no questions asked. That is vindication for you.

 

Those tactics might have worked in Puntland, but they backfired at him in Mogadishu where even the Amhara tanks couldn't save him from his demise.

Tuute Muuse the tribal leader of bosaaso fled to ceelafweyn sanaag he fled from the wrath of Abdilahi Yusufs Clan Militia. i agree it might have worked on the Trinity clan of the garowe pirate administration as oodweyne would say.

[Jacpher]

It's an opinion piece by a student for crying out loud. Probably doesn't realize there's more to Somalia than just SL and PL.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Thankful;733888 wrote:

His strong armed tactics had no piracy, we can agree on that right? Or kidnapping right? Maybe he chased Riyaale out of Lascaanod, however the problems we see now, weren't occurring before....can we agree on this?

 

Because of what Puntland was then and now, AY is slowly being vindicated!

Wrong abdilahi Yusuf started killing elders in galkacyo that is a well known fact and what do we see every day in bosaaso the killing of elders in april this year 3 clan elders were gunned down in bosaaso.

[Thankful]

I agree Jacpher,

 

It's just another outsider giving us his opinion on an issue he knows nothing about. Like he has a right to say what exists and what doesn't or who is functioning and who is not. The article - like so many other outside-forces - is meant to divide us. It's the old colonial strategy.

 

I only listened to his outsider opinion on AY, because it differs from what his enemies in Somalia try say.

 

Even the mere mention of his name, brings out the wrath of his enemies.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Thankful;733896 wrote:

I agree Jacpher,

 

It's just another outsider giving us his opinion on an issue he knows nothing about. Like he has a right to say what exists and what doesn't or who is functioning and who is not. The article - like so many other outside-forces - is meant to divide us. It's the old colonial strategy.

 

I only listened to his outsider opinion on AY, because it differs from what his enemies in Somalia try say.

 

Even the mere mention of his name, brings out the wrath of his enemies.

Jacpher says the Young man is a student and you say he works for the Colonial office which one is it

[Jacpher]

^And that grin of yours proves students don't work for colonial offices?

 

Silly and illogical logic to reach logical conclusion idinkaa la idinka hayyaa.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

If I am not mistaken the author is a member of SOL.

 

This is a nonsensical article from a man who lacks basic understanding of the Somali problem. It has all the hallmarks of a "waxa-la-yidhi" classic.