caydarus Posted June 20, 2011 Somalia’s opposition islamists on Friday declared their allegiance to Al-Qaeda’s newly named leader Dr. Ayman Al-Zahiri who takes over the authority of the group after the death of its former head Sheikh Osama Bin Laden.Speaking to an Islamist broadcaster, Radio Andulus, Al-Shabaab spokesman Mohamud Rage said they will support Dr. Al-Zawahiri like his predecessor Bin Laden."We are welcoming the naming of Dr. Al-Zawahiri, we are going to work with him like we used to work with Sheikh Osama. We will be fulfilling the promise and th agreements with the former leader which means supporting the new leader” Raage said The spokesman said Al-Shabaab fighters will stand by the new leader and give him the necessary support in order to realize their common objectives of spreading Islam.“This is a common cause; we will be working with the new leader of Al-Qaeda. We wish Al-Zawahiri all the best in this hard job that he must do for Muslims all over the world”Somalia’s Al-Shabaab fighters who control much of Southern Somalia have previously declared support for Bin Laden. The Somali group shares an array of ideological beliefs with Al-Qaeda including having the West as a common enemy to Islam and Muslims.Conflict and security analysts in this part of African have already hinted that Al-Shabaab will be supporting the new leader of the global islamist group.“Al-Zawahir was already their leader since he was the second in command. It is not a bolt from the blue to see Al-Shabaab supporting their new chief” said one analyst Al-Zawahiri an Egyptian physician has been the second in command for Al-Qaeda for so many years. This week, the group’s top brass named him as the official successor of Bin Laden.Zawahiri's succession was announced by al-Qaida's ruling council via the internet, six weeks after US Special Forces killed Bin Laden in a raid on a house in northern Pakistan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genius pauper. Posted June 20, 2011 1) references of the news is a vital aspect of the news itself. 2)alshabaab waxa kaqaldan inaad saxdaan maxaad kudiidantihiin??/ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caydarus Posted June 20, 2011 genius pauper.;729483 wrote: 1) references of the news is a vital aspect of the news itself. I was there. 2)alshabaab waxa kaqaldan inaad saxdaan maxaad kudiidantihiin??/ ninkii dalka somaliyeed,dadka iyo diintooda udaneyn haya waad lahadli karta lakiin foreign ideology wata seebaad u afgarani sxb bal adi isheek? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genius pauper. Posted June 20, 2011 ok maxumo. 1) horta koox walbo fikir ajaanib(foreign ideology) kama marna , shabab iyo tfg-ba. and there is nothing wrong with foreign ideology by itself, what it brings forth, is the determining factor. 2) shababka ayaaga dalka xoogiisa haayo, so any decision towards peace they must be part and parcel of it, otherwise the equation won't balance. 3) i believe if the amison soldiers are taken back and the dastuurka somaliyeed quraanka laga dhigo, then shabab peace talk loogu yeero, they would accept. lakiin blame game and finger pointing them as radical and extremist will not bare any fruit. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caydarus Posted June 20, 2011 genius pauper.;729506 wrote: ok maxumo. 1) horta koox walbo fikir ajaanib(foreign ideology) kama marna , shabab iyo tfg-ba. and there is nothing wrong with foreign ideology by itself, what it brings forth, is the determining factor. foreign ideology is bad because it controdicts our culture. 2) shababka ayaaga dalka xoogiisa haayo, so any decision towards peace they must be part and parcel of it, otherwise the equation won't balance. waa runta meelo badan oo dalka kamid ah ayey haystaan lakiin yaa udiidey walaal in ayka qayb qaadaal dadaalada nabadeed ee loogu jiro dib u soo celinta somalia. no one refused that bro. 3) i believe if the amison soldiers are taken back and the dastuurka somaliyeed quraanka laga dhigo, then shabab peace talk loogu yeero, they would accept. lakiin blame game and finger pointing them as radical and extremist will not bare any fruit. already Qur'an is the main stream tasduurka dalkeena. i can asure u, no body calls them extremist or radical if they will stop suicide bombing to innocent somalis and put down the guns. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mad_Mullah Posted June 20, 2011 One has allegiance to the Egyptian the other side their allegiance is with Kampala. Same bs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showqi Posted June 20, 2011 genius pauper.;729506 wrote: 3) i believe if the amison soldiers are taken back and the dastuurka somaliyeed quraanka laga dhigo, then shabab peace talk loogu yeero, they would accept. lakiin blame game and finger pointing them as radical and extremist will not bare any fruit. I believe if AMISON soldiers leave, Al Shabaab will not sit and talk about peace. in fact they will start a new war with other Islamic groups such as Ahlu sunna wal jamaaca, Xisbul Islam, or any other group. Today Al shabaab is the one who are attacking people, fighting all the time, and killing Somali people. Al Shabaab will always find marmarsiiyo ay dadka masaakiinta ah ku dilaan xolohoodana ku boobaan. Waa mar ay yidhaahdaan Diinta Islamka ayaanu difaacaynaa iyo mar ay yidhaahdaan dhaqanka gaalada ayaanu ka soo hor jeednaa. Soomaaliya haday xasilooni iyo nabadgelyo doonayso waa in ay Al Shabaab ka tashataa. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genius pauper. Posted June 20, 2011 Showqi;729533 wrote: Soomaaliya haday xasilooni iyo nabadgelyo doonayso waa in ay Al Shabaab ka tashataa. horta aragtidaada maxumo, lakiin waxaad ogataa, in laga tashto waa un in lala dagalamaa, macnaheeduna waa dhiig kale oo daata. taasina xal ma ahan. ilaa iyo hada, war murtiyeed rasmi ah oo somali udhantahay oo laga soo saaray shababka majiro, lakiin hadii labadaas shardi(bixitaanka amisom iyo dastuurka lada dhigo quraan) si buuxdo loo oofiyo, waxaan qabaa ineey al-shabab ogolaan leheed, waaayo hadeey diidan, aragti mideeysan ayaa laga qaadanaya, oo somali oodhan ayaa kasoo horjeesan leheed. wixii markaas xal ahna, hanoqoto dagaal, hanoqoto in la go'doomiyo, iwm, wuxuun baa lagu dhaqaaqi lahaa. p.s. somalidu hada weey kukala aragti duwanyihiin al-shabab. qaarna weey raacsan yihiin, oo hiil iyo hoo-bo weey lagarab taagan yihiin, qaarna weey kasoo horjeedaan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showqi Posted June 20, 2011 genius pauper.;729536 wrote: lakiin waxaad ogataa, in laga tashto waa un in lala dagalamaa, macnaheeduna waa dhiig kale oo daata. taasina xal ma ahan. Aad iyo aad ayaan uga xumahay in aad kalmadii ha laga tashado si khalad ah u fasiraty Shaqsi ahaan anigu dagaalka iyo colaada aad iyo aad ayaan u necebahay. Markaan idhi Al shabaab ha laga tashado waxaan ula jeeday Al Shabaab yaan wax talo ah ama hogaan ah loo dhiibanin (Al Shabaab ha laga fogaado, yaan la taageerin). Waayo nin dagaal jecel hadii aad tidhaahdo na hogaami oo noo tali. Dee maalin walba dagaal cusub ayuu kuu horseedi. Al Shabaab wax aan dagaal ahayn miyey yaqanaan? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
London2010 Posted June 20, 2011 They don't care a damn about religion, it means nothing to them. They want power and money. To hell with religion. It's garbage. I see right through it's rubbish. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar Posted June 20, 2011 genius pauper.;729483 wrote: 2)alshabaab waxa kaqaldan inaad saxdaan maxaad kudiidantihiin??/ Kii isku dayo in uu saxaba qoorta laga goynaayaa yaa saxaayo marka? Even su'aalahaaga camal uma dulqaadan karaan maadaama dad qaldan ismoodin, oo divine laws wato ismooday. And haddee dhab kaa tahay qalalaadka ee galeen inta lagu soo qoro, taas waa ogtahay in maalin dhan qaadaneyso. Laakiin tan lee haku bilaabaan: Inay aaminaan calanka baluugga, in uu dal jirana u jiro ha qirtaan hana qaataan. Waa inay ku eekaadaan xadka dhulka Soomaaliyeed ee Soomaaliweyn, meel kale waxba nagama galin. Waa inay iska dhaafaan shisheeyaha meelaha kale laga soo buriye. Waa inay ka cararin dhaqankeena iyo hiddaheena wanaagsan, iyagoo ka doorbiday inay walbana ku badalaan dhaqamo shisheeye that had nothing to do with diinteena suuban. Waa inay joojiyaan dagaalada ay barbaarta xoogga ku gilinaayaan. Waa inay dadka cabsi iyo hanjabaad ku xukumin, but camal wanaagsan iyo hoggaan caddaalad iyo daacadnimo ku dhisan. Sur goynta, gacma iyo luga goynta waa inay joojiyaan. Kaba sii daran iyaga maxkamada fadhiyo, kan garsoorka fadhiyo iyaga yahay, kan dambiga kusoo oodaayo iyaga yahay, kan fulinaayana iyaga yahay. Dadka masaakiinta haka shaqeystaan, oo cumanka yee qaban, cunaqabateyn yee ku ridin, ha u fasaxaan waxee kasoo saaran lahaayeen daruurigooda. Hay'adaha dadka wax u qabanaayo, dhaqankeena iyo diinteenana waxba u dhimaneynin, ha fasaxaan. Ha joojiyaan waxa micnadarada maalin walba ay u mamnuucaan. Intaas ha inoo joogto. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caydarus Posted June 21, 2011 Aqiyaar mahad sanid taladaada wanagsan adiga iyo inta kaqayb qaadatey mowdhuucan, horta ninka ad wax isku haysataan hadii u yahay nin soomali ah waad wada hadli kartaan lakiin oo waxa inii dhexeeyana uu yahay waxyaabo siyaasada kusalaysan lakiin shabaabku waxayba diidan yihii wax yabihii aas aa siga ahaa ee somalidu isugu iman lahayd taasna waxa keenaya dadka ayagu u dhalanin somalia ee ay ka amar qaadaan, nin aan udhalanin wadankeenana i nooma naxariisan hayo. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genius pauper. Posted June 21, 2011 Hay'adaha dadka wax u qabanaayo, dhaqankeena iyo diinteenana waxba u dhimaneynin, ha fasaxaan. . mma, bal hey'ad sifadaas leh, tusaalo kabixi oo magacaaw. Sur goynta, gacma iyo luga goynta waa inay joojiyaan. Kaba sii daran iyaga maxkamada fadhiyo, kan garsoorka fadhiyo iyaga yahay, kan dambiga kusoo oodaayo iyaga yahay, kan fulinaayana iyaga yahay. xukunka maxumo, waayo diinta islamka ayaa qabto. lakiin waa in dad ehel u ah eey fuliyaan. yacni cilmigeeda leh oona cadeeyn iyo marqaati keeni karo. Waa inay ku eekaadaan xadka dhulka Soomaaliyeed ee Soomaaliweyn, meel kale waxba nagama galin. tafasiil dheerad ah bal kabixi tan. p.s. hal sheey waa muhiim in laogaado: al-shabab iyo diinta islamka laba ayeey kala yihiin. al-shabab weey qaldami karaan haba shegtaane magac islam, lakiin diinta islamka maya. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
genius pauper. Posted June 21, 2011 caydaruus shabaabku waxayba diidan yihii wax yabihii aas aa siga ahaa ee somalidu isugu iman lahayd taasna waxa keenaya dadka ayagu u dhalanin somalia ee ay ka amar qaadaan, nin aan udhalanin wadankeenana i nooma naxariisan hayo. waxyaabahaas maxaa kamid ah sxb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caydarus Posted June 21, 2011 Alshabaab carries out a barbaric war against the Somali people. However, among Somali Islamic scholars Alshabaab’s barbarism has nothing to do with promoting Sharia. Alshabaab screams about the presence of the African peacekeeping forces known as AMisom in Somalia, it [Alshabaab] parachutes foreign suicide bombers into Somalia. Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys, the leader of al-shabaab an ally of Alshabaab—unequivocally admits receiving support from Eritrea and foreign fighters. He states, "Eritrea supports us…there may be two or three Arabs who were moved by Islam to fight alongside us."Now don’t forget: many members of Alshabaab fighters are in fact from former warlords’ militias. In the past, some of these militias who currently call themselves Alshabaab raped Somali women and girls, looted businesses, and murdered countless innocent people in the name of defending not Islam or Somalia but the interest of their tribes.These gangs just changed shirts. In that case, shouldn’t Alshabaab’s Sharia applied to its members? Of course not, because Alshabaab zealots accept only the part of Islam that favours them. So be careful. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites