xiinfaniin Posted May 5, 2011 As I always said, Siilaanyo is a nimble politician who understands reality constrains separatist movement is dealt with. In Kalshaale he understood (forced to understand, rather) that the conflict was at its core a clannish one. He stopped at the gates of his clans grazing boundaries, and abandoned the drive of bringing other clans by force . No matter how loud Xaaji Xunjuf repeats ‘Way Duushay’ slogan, in Kalshaale, the notion of closing colonial borders was roundly grounded. And then came Siilaanyo trip to one of wealthiest gulf countries, Kuwait. We are not privy to what went on behind the royal walls, but one rude truth as always intruded quite forcefully. Siilaanyo was honored as a Somali leader with Somalia’s most unifying symbol hoisted behind the Somaliland delegate he led. The blue Somali flag was hoisted. And that, ya Jamacah, is powerful message from Kuwait. And if you keep your ears on the ground, you would hear reports of Kuwait’s insisting that Siilaanyo’s delegate would only be granted audience to the officers with higher positions provided that they come as Somalis from Somalia, and not from some other country that only exists in the imagination of the separatist movement. How would my friend NGONGE spin this? Oodweyne? Yaa u baxay? ========================================================= Wafti uu hogaminayay Silanyo oo waji gabax la kulmey 4 May 4, 2011 - 11:52:47 AM Wafti uu hogaminayo Madaxweynaha maamulka Somaliland oo sheegtey inuu gooni isu taagey ayaa booqasho uu dhowaan ku tagey wadanka Kuwait kala kulmey wajigabax kadib markii calanka Somalia laga taagey dhamaan xafiisyadii uu kula kumayey madaxda dalkaas. Boqorka Kuwait ayaa diidey inuu la kulmo Madaxweynaha Somaliland isagoo sheeganaya inuu ka goostey Somalia inteeda kale iyadoo calanka Somalia ka lulanayey goobtii kulankaas ka dhacey. Madaxweynaha Somaliland oo Idaacada BBC waydiisay sida waftigiisa u arkey mowqifka dowlada Kuwait ayaa sheegey ineysan wadankaas u tagin aqoonsi raadis balse howlo kale u joogeen halkaas waa sida uu hadalka u dhigaye. Dowlada Kuwait iyo wadamada Carbta ayaa si ba'an u diian in Somalia la kala gooyo iyadoo taasi sababtey in maamulka Somaliland ku hungoobo aqoonsi ay u helaan gooni isu taag. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted May 5, 2011 Are you saying that those photos weren't really photoshopped and the blue flag was really flying right in front of Siilaanyo? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 5, 2011 Zack, we await good NGONGE to answer that question, but read the below report boowe Madaxweynaha Somaliland oo Idaacada BBC waydiisay sida waftigiisa u arkey mowqifka dowlada Kuwait ayaa sheegey ineysan wadankaas u tagin aqoonsi raadis balse howlo kale u joogeen halkaas waa sida uu hadalka u dhigaye. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 5, 2011 ^^^lol@Xiin, nice one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
A_Khadar Posted May 5, 2011 That is why I was asking if there is any non-somali media potal reported his trip.. I found none so it could be either side photoshopped. After all it wasn't that important visitation as many successionists here portrayed. Even rumors circulated that he was denied the entry intially and that is why he stayed Dubia for a while. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 5, 2011 The visit was mostly about attracting development & investments to Somaliland. Every sland visit to other countries does not mean it's about asking for recognition. Tell us something new. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted May 5, 2011 Salaama Xiin. Since Kuwait didn't recognize Somaliland as an independent nation, one would logically expect Siilaanyo would be received as a citizen of Somalia. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
xiinfaniin Posted May 5, 2011 Duke , one thing is clear here and that is Kuwait is not Ethiopia and does not entertain separatist aspirations. Diplomatic ground rules were clear, and Siilaanyo who understands one or two things about diplomacy fully complied. Saalax, We are all for developments for all Somali regions. May Allah rain infrastructure money and resource for Somaliland, Puntland and all other admins in the country. What we reject is what the Kuwaiti government rejected: the secessionist nonsense. Libaax Salaams awoowe, You are absolutely correct about the logical expectation. But just like we've seen some separatist report to us that Riyaale used Somaliland passport to fly to England, some here were claiming the Somali flag was a photoshop, and Somaliland's flag was what hoisted indeed. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 5, 2011 ^^^Nicely put. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted May 5, 2011 Since Kuwait didn't recognize Somaliland as an independent nation, one would logically expect Siilaanyo would be received as a citizen of Somalia. what are you talking about? don't you know by now that we don't do Logic around here? what we do here and we do it best, is mudslinging, interpretations, opinion passed as facts and endless arguments for the sake of arguments - come on Libaax-Sankataabte - catch up will you. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Saalax Posted May 5, 2011 xiinfaniin Somaliland is not a rush for recognition. They are independent on the ground have their own army, currency, borders, etc nobody can dedicate to them not even the so called "Somalia TFG Government" . Ground independence has been achieved longtime ago. Somaliland needs to also put a good focus on attracting investements, developments. The more developed Somaliland is the more stronger and unchalleneged it will be in the Somali peninsula. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 5, 2011 I posted the Picture first on sol when Siilaanyo met the deputy Prime minister and Foreign Minister of kuwait a day later they came with that photoshopped picture. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 5, 2011 Xaqiiqada dhabta ah ee Safarkii Madaxweynaha Somaliland Written by Abdi M.Saleiman May 03, 2011 at 06:53 PM (Madaxweynaha oo markii uu degay Calanka Somaliland ku dul istaagay,iydoo la wada ogyahay in KELMADA TOWXIIDKU ku qaran yahay,ma aqoon daraa mise waa isbedekii Kulmiye dadka iyo dalka u balan qaaday). Runtii waxaa jira warar aad iyo aad isu khilaafsan oo ka soo baxaya safarkii Madaxweynuhu uu ku tegay wadamada U.A.E iyo Kuwait,waxaa jiro Sawir aad la yaab u leh ,macnayaal aad u kala fogna bixinaya.Waxaa aad u adkaatay xataa in aad rumaysato Sawirada la soo geliyey Webside,sababtoo ah ma garan kartid run iyo been ka ay yihiin,waxaa shaki weynu ku jiraa dhamaan Sawiradii aynu aragnay ee ka hadlayey cida uu la kulmay Madaxweynuhu. Dhinaca kale waxaa Madaxweynah iyo Waftigiisa ku baxday lacag aad iyo aad u badan ,sida lagu qiyaasayna Million dollar ku dhow,xilli runtii dalka ay Abaar iyo Macaluul aad u xoogani ka jiraan. Haddii aan aan u soo noqdo safarkii Madaxweynaha,waxyaabihii ugu muhiimsanaa waxaa ka mid ah arimahan:- 1. Marka hore waxaa fiican in la fahmo,Madaxweynuhu wuxuu booqday wadamadii uu booqan jiray,xidhiidh koodana uu dhisay Madaxweynihii ka horeeyey,ma aha wada xidhiidh cusub ay la samaysay Xukuumada hadda jirtaa. 2. Ma jiraan haba yaraatee Wakiilo Somaliland u jooga wadamadaas uu Madaxweynuhu booqday,mana jiraan wax xidhiidh Siyaasadeed ah oo inaga dhexeeyaa,lagama yaabo in uu ina dhexmaro x idhiidh Siyaasadeed xataa mustaqbalka dhow,sababtoo ah waxay aaminsan yihiin Somaliweyn. 3. Madaxweynuhu kuma tegin casuumad ay wadamadaasi u fidiyeen Xukuumada Somaliland,balse wuxuu ku tegay casuumad ay fidiyeen laba nin mid U.A.E iyo mid reer Kuwait ah ,oo labaduba ka tirsan yihiin qoysaska reer Boqor, haddii aan si kale kuu fahan siiyana ninka reer U.A.E waa ninkii hore inoogu keenay Riig hore ceelal loo qoday , kan reer Kuwait-na waa ninka iska leh guriga weyn ee ka dhisan Degmada Sheekh,waa ninka dayac tiray dhakhtarka Degmada Sheekh. 4. Waxaa iyana ka qayb qaatay casuumada Madaxweynaha,kooxo ganacsato reer Somaliland iyo reer Jabuuti ah ah,kuwaas oo dadaal weyn ugu jira sidii Kooto ay ugu qabsan lahaayeen guud ahaanba Ganacsiga Somaliland. 5. Madaxweynaha ma sii raacin,muu sii kaxaysan Khubaro,aqoon yahano,si fiican u yaqaan dhaqanka , luqada iyo taariikhda wadamada Madaxweynu booqday,balse ragga sii raacay waxay ahayeen koox aan aan haba yaraatee wax aqoon ah u lahayn wadamadaas,waxaan ku tilmaami karaa “Iska daba ordayaal” amase shaqsiyaad ujeedadooda ugu waynu ay ahayd in ay soo arkaan wadamadaas,khaladaadkii meesha ka dhacayna Saxaafada ayaa wax badan ka qortay. 6. Waxaa jira kooxo ku sugan Somaliland iyo wadamada dibadaba oo doonaya in ay buunbuuniyaan booqashada Madaxweynuhu uu ku tegay dalalka U.A.E iyo Kuwait,balse buubuunintii iyo been abuurkii ay wadeen uu la gaadhay moolo fog fog oo xataa Somaliland wax u dhimaysa. 7. Madaxweynuhu wadamadii uu booqday waxaa ugu badnaa oo laga wada hadlay waxay ahaayeen GANACSI,sheekadana waxaa mar kasta hogaaminayey kooxo ganacsato ah ,doonayana in ay ganacsiga dalka Kooto ku qabsadaan. 8. Caawimo waydiisi ,wixii laga soo helana waa xaqiiqa in ay gacanta u geli doonaan Shirkadihii awelba Casuumada soo dhameeyey oo aan filaayo in aan cidina kula tartami Karin. 9. Safarkii Madaxweynaha Somaliland wuxuu ku dhamaaday,in Madaxweynuhu dusha kaga istaago Calanka Somaliland ee aynu wada ognahay in ay KELMADA TOWCIIDKU ku qaran yahay,ma garanayo sababta kelitay,ma aqoon daraa,mise waa isbedelkii dalka iyo dadka ay u balan qaadeen Xisbiga talada haya ee Kulmiye,waxaase ila haboon si deg deg ah sharciga loo horkeeno cidii arintaas ka masuulka ahayd. Mahadsanidin Abdi M.Saleiman(Mingiste)Political Analyst abdi_saleiman@hotmail.com http://www.qarannews.com/index.php?o...0892&Itemid=65 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted May 5, 2011 Madaxweynaha oo markii uu degay Calanka Somaliland ku dul istaagay,iydoo la wada ogyahay in KELMADA TOWXIIDKU ku qaran yahay,ma aqoon daraa mise waa isbedekii Kulmiye dadka iyo dalka u balan qaaday). oo ma kabaada ku taala tawxiidku looooool Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted May 5, 2011 ^^^LOL@ Secessionist they are realising the truth ever so slowly.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites