The Real Reason Why Benazir Bhutto (God Rest Her Soul) Was Assassinated.

[N.O.R.F]

wrong place heh

[BOB]

Valenteenah.;716739 wrote:

LoL @Nuune. That's nuts.

 

BOB, now that you've drawn our attention to this deadly conspiracy, bilaa adna lagaa takhaluusaa?

Val...hadaad maqasho oday Soomali ah ayaa Bristol laga af duubay oo illaa iyo hada la la'yahay...ogoow waa aniga ee bal hala iga war hayo.

 

Some will mumble...my life has no worth but I smile and say to them...maybe to you but I am worth more than all the wealth in the world to my Hooyo & Aabo...Innit? :cool:

 

 

 

 

 

N.O.R.F...Horta waxaa wax la hubaa ah ineysan arrintu u dhicin sida ay U.S inoogu sheegeyso, meesha howlo badan oo aanan shaqo ku laheyn ayaa ka socda laakiin si kastaba ha ahaatee kolley anigu u barooran maayo some one that I do not even know exists.

 

Hadaad xasuusan tahay Bin Laden sawirkiisu wuxuu ii ahaan jidhay Avatar until I found out the truth about him Thanks to my younger brother and few other prominent scholars both Somali and non-somalis...Allah Knows Best.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace, Love & Unity.

[N.O.R.F]

Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag

 

Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations Steve R. Pieczenik says he is prepared to tell a federal grand jury the name of a top general who told him directly 9/11 was a false flag attack.

 

Paul Joseph Watson

Prison Planet.com

Wednesday, May 4, 2011

 

Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.

 

Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a “conspiracy theorist”. He served as the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State under three different administrations, Nixon, Ford and Carter, while also working under Reagan and Bush senior, and still works as a consultant for the Department of Defense. A former US Navy Captain, Pieczenik achieved two prestigious Harry C. Solomon Awards at the Harvard Medical School as he simultaneously completed a PhD at MIT.

 

Recruited by Lawrence Eagleburger as Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Management, Pieczenik went on to develop, “the basic tenets for psychological warfare, counter terrorism, strategy and tactics for transcultural negotiations for the US State Department, military and intelligence communities and other agencies of the US Government,” while also developing foundational strategies for hostage rescue that were later employed around the world.

 

Pieczenik also served as a senior policy planner under Secretaries Henry Kissinger, Cyrus Vance, George Schultz and James Baker and worked on George W. Bush’s election campaign against Al Gore. His record underscores the fact that he is one of the most deeply connected men in intelligence circles over the past three decades plus.

 

The character of Jack Ryan, who appears in many Tom Clancy novels and was also played by Harrison Ford in the popular 1992 movie Patriot Games, is also based on Steve Pieczenik.

 

Back in April 2002, over nine years ago, Pieczenik told the Alex Jones Show that Bin Laden had already been “dead for months,” and that the government was waiting for the most politically expedient time to roll out his corpse. Pieczenik would be in a position to know, having personally met Bin Laden and worked with him during the proxy war against the Soviets in Afghanistan back in the early 80′s.

 

Pieczenik said that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001, “Not because special forces had killed him, but because as a physician I had known that the CIA physicians had treated him and it was on the intelligence roster that he had marfan syndrome,” adding that the US government knew Bin Laden was dead before they invaded Afghanistan.

 

Marfan syndrome is a degenerative genetic disease for which there is no permanent cure. The illness severely shortens the life span of the sufferer.

 

“He died of marfan syndrome, Bush junior knew about it, the intelligence community knew about it,” said Pieczenik, noting how CIA physicians had visited Bin Laden in July 2001 at the American Hospital in Dubai.

 

“He was already very sick from marfan syndrome and he was already dying, so nobody had to kill him,” added Pieczenik, stating that Bin Laden died shortly after 9/11 in his Tora Bora cave complex.

 

“Did the intelligence community or the CIA doctor up this situation, the answer is yes, categorically yes,” said Pieczenik, referring to Sunday’s claim that Bin Laden was killed at his compound in Pakistan, adding, “This whole scenario where you see a bunch of people sitting there looking at a screen and they look as if they’re intense, that’s nonsense,” referring to the images released by the White House which claim to show Biden, Obama and Hillary Clinton watching the operation to kill Bin Laden live on a television screen.

 

“It’s a total make-up, make believe, we’re in an American theater of the absurd….why are we doing this again….nine years ago this man was already dead….why does the government repeatedly have to lie to the American people,” asked Pieczenik.

 

“Osama Bin Laden was totally dead, so there’s no way they could have attacked or confronted or killed Osama Bin laden,” said Pieczenik, joking that the only way it could have happened was if special forces had attacked a mortuary.

 

Pieczenik said that the decision to launch the hoax now was made because Obama had reached a low with plummeting approval ratings and the fact that the birther issue was blowing up in his face.

 

“He had to prove that he was more than American….he had to be aggressive,” said Pieczenik, adding that the farce was also a way of isolating Pakistan as a retaliation for intense opposition to the Predator drone program, which has killed hundreds of Pakistanis.

 

“This is orchestrated, I mean when you have people sitting around and watching a sitcom, basically the operations center of the White House, and you have a president coming out almost zombie-like telling you they just killed Osama Bin Laden who was already dead nine years ago,” said Pieczenik, calling the episode, “the greatest falsehood I’ve ever heard, I mean it was absurd.”

 

Dismissing the government’s account of the assassination of Bin Laden as a “sick joke” on the American people, Pieczenik said, “They are so desperate to make Obama viable, to negate the fact that he may not have been born here, any questions about his background, any irregularities about his background, to make him look assertive….to re-elect this president so the American public can be duped once again.”

 

Pieczenik’s assertion that Bin Laden died almost ten years ago is echoed by numerous intelligence professionals as well as heads of state across the world.

 

Bin Laden, “Was used in the same way that 9/11 was used to mobilize the emotions and feelings of the American people in order to go to a war that had to be justified through a narrative that Bush junior created and Cheney created about the world of terrorism,” stated Pieczenik.

 

During his interview with the Alex Jones Show yesterday, Pieczenik also asserted he was directly told by a prominent general that 9/11 was a stand down and a false flag operation, and that he is prepared to go to a grand jury to reveal the general’s name.

 

“They ran the attacks,” said Pieczenik, naming Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowitz, Stephen Hadley, Elliott Abrams, and Condoleezza Rice amongst others as having been directly involved.

 

“It was called a stand down, a false flag operation in order to mobilize the American public under false pretenses….it was told to me even by the general on the staff of Wolfowitz – I will go in front of a federal committee and swear on perjury who the name was of the individual so that we can break it open,” said Pieczenik, adding that he was “furious” and “knew it had happened”.

 

“I taught stand down and false flag operations at the national war college, I’ve taught it with all my operatives so I knew exactly what was done to the American public,” he added.

 

Pieczenik re-iterated that he was perfectly willing to reveal the name of the general who told him 9/11 was an inside job in a federal court, “so that we can unravel this thing legally, not with the ****** 9/11 Commission that was absurd.”

 

Pieczenik explained that he was not a liberal, a conservative or a tea party member, merely an American who is deeply concerned about the direction in which his country is heading.

 

http://www.prisonplanet.com/top-us-government-insider-bin-laden-died-in-2001-911-a-false-flag.html

[N.O.R.F]

This below must be the mother of all conspiracy theories

 

doberman21 Reply:

 

May 4th, 2011 at 9:17 am

 

IS PIECZENIK JEWISH?

 

It’s odd he’s coming forward w/this now…Like we haven’t figured out the elites have moved on to the NEXT PHASE:

 

a/ Now that the jewish bankers have achieved their goals of destroying the economies of every country & making every one subservient to their perpetual debt… its time to throw America (their host) under the bus; &

 

b/ Blame it on Israel;

 

Why?

 

To divert attention from the fact that aetheist/jewish bankers:

 

a/ Control the Fedl Res./IMF/World Banking System & have bought & control the US govt., even whilst Americans are waking & up & trying to figure our how to undo 100 yrs of damage (it really started before the Constitution folks–the Fed. is only the 4th central bank in U.S. history… w/the 1st before we we’re even “independant.”

 

b/ Are the ones that caused & funded Theodore Herzl (the father of zionism), WWI & WWII, inter alia, to “create” the sole cause (the “holocaust”) for worldwide support of the re-creation of a jewish homeland…

 

c/ Only wanted to re-create the “jewish homeland” to be an “antagonist” to bring about WWIII, which will culminate in the fruition of a global government, that they control, necessitated by a global desire for peace & disarmament as a result of that war.

 

In essence folks, the aethiest jews have taken the hebrew idea of a messianic kingdom & decided they will create it w/out the Messiah … & the jewish bankers will be running the whole shabang!

 

It is, after all, their right, as “God’s chosen” to enslave the world through usury & reap the rewards on the backs of the goyim (“you”) & your progeny… into perpetuity.

 

Let us be mindful that Herzl & Gurion were both aethiests. Gurion was a member of a marxist party in Poland, went on to head a marxist labor union, fought (& got arrested 2 x’s in 1905) in the Russian Labor Revolution (while Trotsky was also there fighting!)—leading up to the Bolshevik revolution, & was later rewarded by being installed as the 1st Prime Minister of Israel, a known bastion of “democracy.”

 

keep in mind that most of the Jews today (99%) (i.e. including the bankers) are “REFORM JEWS… meaning they are Pharissaic Jews & no longer live under the Covenant, but rather a new set of “modern” Pharisee laws called the Talmud…

 

In fact, almost 70% identify themselves as aetheists (according to a recent poll), & even so, most “reform jews” are “technically” aethiests anyway since they:

 

(1)no longer keep the Law; &

 

(2) ARE NOT A RACE, BUT A RELIGION (The Torah/O.T. explains these “Covenant people” were comprised of various races…what made them part of the “Covenant” was OBEYING THE COVENANT, NOT WHO THEIR PARENTS WERE)

 

They were eventually “divorced from God” because they no longer kept the covenant (Jeremiah & Isaiah)…More, acurately, they thought God divorced them, but they actually divorced God & caused their own enslavement.

 

Who are these reform Pharisess? They seem to fit John of Patmos’ description in Revelations of “THOSE THAT CALL THEMSELVES JEWS & ARE NOT”… seen just before the messianic period.

 

In one respect, the Pharisees have kept one principle of the Covenant…the prohibition of exacting usury for any other purposes than ENSLAVING AN ENEMY.

 

FIAT is just a natural progression of the MONEYCHANGERS’ MACHINATIONS USING DISHONEST WEIGHTS & MEASURES… it’s just the ultimate deception since the world, not just the U.S., pays perpetual interest to jewish bankers on worthless fiat!

 

They seemed to be schooled in that concept… in that they ARE exacting their fiat usury on the world.

 

Zionism is a product of the same people Jesus identified as a “Synagogue of Satan”…Pharisees.

 

The real purpose of zionism was not to re-create the jewish homeland (that’s just the trojan horse)… but to trick secular jews & evangelical Christians to work toward their own demise… by helping the “chosen ones” a/k/a JEWISH MONEYCHANGERS, TO ESTABLISH THEIR GLOBAL ZIONIST STATE!

 

THE NWO ORDER IS ACTUALLY THE JEWISH BANKERS’ GLOBAL ZION!

[General Duke]

lol@North. That was a good read. The story keeps changing and thats whats puzzling with the whole episode.

[Alpha Blondy]

this is pathetic

[General Duke]

Day of the Dead: The Hit Man as Hero

 

Already the story is starting to unravel, mutate, transmogrify. Government statements that were presented as gospel truths in every media outlet in the world, and which served as the basis for ten thousand earnest, serious commentaries, turn out, one day later, to have been false.

 

We had been told – by the president’s top “counterterrorism adviser,” John Brennan – that Osama had been “engaged in a firefight” when he was gunned down by American agents. This was not true; it turns out that he was unarmed when they shot him in the head. We were told that the base coward used his wife as a human shield while he pumped hot lead at America’s boys. This was not true. There were no human shields – although Osama’s wife was shot in the leg, while another woman, wife to a bin Laden aide, was shot and killed by the agents.

 

Of course, even these new officially released“facts” must be taken with a grain of salt, since they spring from the same impenetrable murk of the security apparat from whence the original story of the raid emerged. Will these new details change tomorrow?

 

(Meanwhile, actual reporters doing actual reporting independently uncovered another falsehood in the first story: the compound that was raided in Abbottabad was not a “million-dollar mansion,” but a rather ordinary house in a middle-class area, worth about $250,000.)

 

In any case, we are told by the Fightin’ Patriotic Progressives who now stand foursquare behind the apparat that we should not trouble our little heads over these “discrepancies.” Such things are to be expected in the “fog of war.” (But didn’t the president and his national security team – including John Brennan – actually watch the raid unfold on live video feed? Didn’t Brennan see what happened with his own eyes?)

 

Or if not fog, then the original misinformation can be put down to “subconscious” mythologizing, as Digby tells us. ("I think it was mythologizing for the sake of mythologizing, even if it was subconscious.") Our leaders wanted an old-fashioned cowboy shoot-out for the big climax of the bin Laden story, and so, somehow, the counterterrorism chief of the United States just, you know, subconsciously rearranged the facts to fit the myth. But as Digby sternly warns us: “Let's not get ******. The fact that they embellished doesn't mean it didn't happen.” That’s true; but “the fact that they embellished” does mean that we would be, well, ****** to accept anything that belches forth from the Secret State at face value.

 

I don’t mean to pick on Digby; but the post linked above serves as an almost perfect example of the moral schizophrenia that has gripped the progressive movement since the advent of Obama. At one point, she rightly notes that no one would have been bothered if the Administration had admitted from the start that bin Laden was unarmed when they killed him. As she says, the assassination scenario was duly praised by such rock-ribbed liberal icons as Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert; and she notes, astutely, “I don't think there's any political downside, and in fact it probably makes them look more macho in the eyes of the people.”

 

(Indeed; all manner of liberals have been exulting in the new image of Obama the Heroic Hit Man. For example, Juan Cole and James Wolcott – both long-time scourges of the witless, brutal militarism of the Bush Regime – posted up a lolcat-style photo of a cool, grinning Obama in shades, emblazoned with the tagline, “Sorry it took so long to get you a copy of my birth certificate – I was too busy killing Osama bin Laden.”)

 

Digby then goes on to offer up another telling – and damning – insight:

 

Besides, the question of whether the president could order an assassination was settled some time ago. They assert the right to keep prisoners in jail forever and kill American citizens, and nobody cares, so why in the world would there be any domestic blowback for ordering the death of the world's most wanted man?

 

Here is where the schizophrenia sets in. It is obvious, from this and other posts, that Digby is horrified and outraged at Obama’s open claim of this universal license to kill and imprison with impunity. That is, she fully recognizes that the United States government is led by a man who believes he can murder anyone he pleases, at any time, at his own arbitrary decision. She knows that he has used this power over and over, most extensively in Pakistan, where even by the most conservative estimates hundreds of innocent people – including many women and children – have been killed in Obama’s drone missile campaign.

 

She knows, in other words, that Obama has killed hundreds of innocent people. Hundreds of innocent people. Little children, women, old folks, young marrieds, fathers, mothers, teenagers – he has killed them in their own homes, in the streets of their villages, in their cars, at their weddings and funerals and birthday parties and family gatherings, raining down missiles, without warning, with no way to escape, no defense, killed them, the babies, the children, the old, the sick, ripped their bodies to shreds, buried them under rubble, tore off their heads, set them on fire to die in the purest agony. She knows this. She decries this. She believes it is wrong. Yet the general thrust of her widely read blog is that this man who does these things, who commits these horrors, who claims these murderous, tyrannous powers, should, at all costs, be retained in power so that he can carry on doing these things which sicken and horrify her.

[General Duke]

But this is not simply a case of lesser evilism in a system where all the alternatives are grim – i.e., “Well, Göring is a monster but he’s probably marginally better than Hitler; let’s support a bloody coup to install him as Führer”. No; Digby and many other progressives whose writings show they are perfectly aware of the atrocities that Obama has committed and the evil policies he embraces – such as the unrestricted license to kill – still display an active affection and celebratory support for him. To them, even though he has killed these people and claimed these awful powers, he is still one cool guy.

 

Witness their delight at Obama’s comedy routine at the Correspondent’s Dinner last week, when he poked fun at the pathetic Donald Trump, garnering big yocks from the Beltway elite – even as NATO missiles were killing three young grandchildren of Moamar Gadafy: more child sacrifices offered up on the altar of our modern Molochs. They didn't even notice.

 

Oh, they often shake their heads sadly or waggle their fingers sternly at some action or policy of Obama’s. They often can’t understand why he does these things – cut taxes for the rich, bail out the bankers, torture Bradley Manning, form commissions to gut Social Security, escalate and prolong the Terror War, kill hundreds of people with drone missiles, etc., etc. But nothing douses their fundamental (fundamentalist?) fervor to keep him in power and to scorn those who oppose him. Nothing keeps them from seeing themselves as his true and faithful "base," still waiting for him to return to them, despite his many betrayals. (Subconscious betrayals, no doubt.)

 

And we can expect more encomiums to the president’s eloquence and heroism from these quarters on Thursday, when, with the good taste and tact so characteristic of our bipartisan ruling class, Obama goes to the site of the 9/11 attacks in New York City to celebrate the shooting of an unarmed man in the head.

 

Yes, the president of the United States, accompanied by various Establishment worthies and doubtless a few dignified clerics, will stand at Ground Zero to glorify a killing that his own minions tell us will change nothing whatsoever: the wars will go on, “vigilance will be redoubled” (i.e., civil liberties will continue to be eroded, black ops will continue in the 70 countries or more where America is carrying out covert operations), the Secret State will keep growing, the universal license to kill and snatch and incarcerate and torture will remain in full force. So what exactly is being celebrated?

 

A cynic – or someone being skeptically “stupid” in the Digbyian sense – might say the occasion is more exploitation than celebration: exploiting the grief of the families of 9/11 survivors who will be trotted out to express their tearful gratitude to the president who has given them “closure” – and who will reap the poll bounce from this moment of “national unity,” just as his predecessor rode a similar exploitation of death to his own re-election.

 

Oh, but let us not be ******. Let us acknowledge that the president kills innocent people and “asserts the right to keep prisoners in jail forever and kill American citizens” and puts out false information (subconsciously, of course! Always subconsciously!) about murky operations which we must take on faith like dutiful subjects in militarized state, not fully-fledged citizens in a republic – but let us still revel in his triumphs, delight in his eloquence, and work with all our strength to make sure he continues to invert, pervert and subvert every progressive value we hold dear.

 

That’s not “stupid” at all, is it?

[Valenteenah.]

The Bin Laden story has truly been a boon for conspiracy theorists. It's going to go and go and go.

 

BOB, Bristol huh? Well, I guess, as SOL reps, we need to officially welcome you to the UK. So, welcome! :cool:

[Peace Action]

Wow you are all nuts. After birthers, we can't take deathers. Don't go there, it is slippery slope.

[Bashiir]

We might ask ourselves how we would be reacting if Iraqi commandos landed at George W. Bush’s compound, assassinated him, and dumped his body in the Atlantic.

 

By Noam Chomsky

 

 

 

 

http://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2652/noam_chomsky_my_reaction_to_os/

[BOB]

Valenteenah.;717289 wrote:

The Bin Laden story has truly been a boon for conspiracy theorists. It's going to go and go and go.

 

BOB, Bristol huh? Well, I guess, as SOL reps, we need to officially welcome you to the UK. So, welcome! :cool:

 

 

Val...I've been in Bristol for a while now...didn't Juxa tell you? Juxa and Ibti knew all along and they didn't even tell you? no wonder they wouldn't even invite me for a cup of tea...!!!

 

 

 

Thanks a lot my sister...I appreciate it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peace, Love & Unity.