Photographer's girlfriend pays loving tribute to her 'Timinator'

[Chimera]

 

quick, Axmed your boy Rampage needs mouth to mouth resuscitation

[Chimera]

Hahaha, hit a nerve?

[Axmed-InaJaad]

haye someone baa shaqaynayo. waa inoo beri danbe. mac salaam

[Chimera]

Hmmm...that wasn't necessary Admin, his insults don't bother me, like NGONGE would "their just words on a screen"

 

Btw ahmed ani af Somali waan qori kara, waan akhriin kara iyo waan ku hadli kara, lakiin af Ingiriis wa luuqada qofkasta forumkan ku jira cistiicmaala. Markaas maxaad iga rabta? You live in Canada sxb, don't pretend you're writing your venom from Somalia itself.

 

Salaam

[Axmed-InaJaad]

Chimera;714265 wrote:

Hmmm...that wasn't necessary Admin, his insults don't bother me, like NGONGE would "their just words on a screen"

 

Btw ahmed ani af Somali waan qori kara, waan akhriin kara iyo waan ku hadli kara, lakiin af Ingiriis wa luuqada qofkasta forumkan ku jira cistiicmaala. Markaas maxaad iga rabta? You live in Canada sxb, don't pretend you're writing your venom from Somalia itself.

 

Salaam

im impressed saxiib. you are at least are willing to attempt it despite butchering the language. with that said, lets agree to disagree on this.

 

macsalaam

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

I once went to a mosque where a Somali imaam called a white muslim gaal because of course the man was white lol. Sometimes the mentality of fellow Somalis disturbs but the this perv a-nijaad has the gall to lecture other about xalaal relationship...

[gooni]

Dee iyada ay uu taala,

free desire ayeey bani aadumku heystaan

, qaar diintooda ay ku adagyihiin qaarna waa unbelieving, anigu kaliya waxaan dhahay waxey doonto ha sameeyso iyada ay uu taala.

tan kale tii alle inaan diiday miyaan dhahay?

Abu hilowlow aadunuhu xor maahan waxaa kaliya oo aduunka loo keenay inuu alle kaliya u sujuudo,haduu rumeeyana waa inuusan xornimo sheegan waa intaas kaliya waxaan isku fahmayno,.

 

tan kale shacabka soomaalidu waa dad muxaafid ah ama diin iyo dhaqan leh is yaqaana haddii gabdho meel aan fiicnayn lagu sawiro waxay is weydiiyaan waa qoladee? ka dib yay ka tahay? waa ina ayo? oo meelbaan qaraabo ka nahay waa dad aad isugu xiran wixii xumaada waa in loo duceeyaa qanuunka gaalada weeye waxa sheegta xornimo iyo cawaanimo.

[Prometheus]

Amusing thread. This thread beatifully illustrates the profound difference between the cultural sensibilities of Liberal and Conservative Muslims. (Conservative Muslims, of course, insist that there is no such thing as a Liberal Muslim.) There are many Muslim men and, to the chagrin of puritans, Muslim women who are happily married to non-Muslims. A Liberal Muslim would not find this problematic. Philistine Conservatives, however, ever the cultural alarmists, would insist that such love is expressly forbidden, especially if such innocent affection involves a Muslim woman marrying a non-Muslim man—haram, the miscreants shriek! Such misogynists, however, have no problem with a Muslim man marrying a Christian woman, provided he is afforded exclusive indoctrination rights to the child. Odd, isn't it?

 

As with any cultural issue, these raffish right-wingers are wont to prattle on that their view, and only their view, represents the pristine Islamic position. Thus, any Muslim who finds their draconian, indeed illiberal, interpretation of Islam distasteful is disobeying God. Not surprisingly, it’s an old and tedious ruse that scurrilous conservatives have resorted to, time and again. I don’t think Liberal Muslims should let these intolerant naifs use religion to buttress their deep-seated animus and bigotries against non-Muslims. Besides, Islam is hardly unequivocal on this matter. There's enough grey area here. Let the mullahs and their minions blithely regurgitate scripture. Text is nothing if not interpretation. And there’s no reason to think that the interpretation of benighted conservatives is the morally correct one. If these know-nothings had their way, they would, perhaps, consign music and art to the flames. Muslims who appreciate the beauty of art and the harmony of music would not let these unsophisticated fops deprive them of such pleasures. In like manner, open-minded and tolerant Muslims should not let these bigoted misogynists use Islam to cast aspersions on Idil’s relationship. There's nothing disreputable or dirty about her relationship.

 

I have no qualms with people who marry those with whom they share cultural affinity. Social homogamy determines much of our mate preference. As a matter of sheer probability, you are more likely to choose a spouse who shares your background--your ethnicity, your education, and your religion. There’s nothing wrong with such preferences. Problems only arise when mullahs and their minions insist that to marry a person of a different religion is criminal and ungodly. Liberal Muslims find such virulent and militant nonsense divisive and morally odious. Muslim women can marry whomever they want.

 

P.S. Hasan El-Torabi, a Sudani Muslim Cleric, was berated and castigated by vulgar conservatives in his country when he stated that it was permissible for a Muslim woman to marry a non-Muslim man. "The Shariah allows it", he proclaimed defiantly. Rather than engage his juridical arguments, the conservatives did what they do best: ugly intimidation, reprehensible demagoguery, and outright thuggery. Sad. But what else would you expect from intellectually bankrupt islamists?

[Che -Guevara]

^Can your idea of 'liberal' Muslim be little original atleast?

 

People what's issue here? Your personal feelings aside, is there specific text in the Quran or hadith that forbids a relationship between a Muslim and non-Muslim man? If there's clear text that bans such a relationship, than those advocating for this sort of relationship or want people to 'understand' have no leg to stand on unless you have an issue with the religion of Islam itself.

[RaMpAgE]

 

This is what chimera and his cronies wants to see occur more in the Somali community

[Che -Guevara]

^This woman is actually smart but lacks wisdom.

[Prometheus]

Adeer, there’s nothing original about this discussion. It’s an old debate, a seemingly eternal struggle, between the reactionary forces of traditionalism and the progressive voices of liberalism. Every society has elements and individuals who defend rigidity and conservatism, and those who champion the principles of liberalism and enlightenment. Recently, a new poll conducted in Mississippi asked conservatives whether interracial marriage should be illegal. Appallingly, nearly half of respondents said that such relationships should be illegal. While right-wing Muslims do not, for the most part, condone racial bigotry, Muslim conservatives are unabashed, even piously proud, in their unconscionable defense of religious bigotry. If you ask a right-wing Muslim whether it should be illegal for a Muslim (woman) to marry a non-Muslim, a majority of Muslim conservatives would answer in the affirmative. Small wonder.

 

It matters not a whit that these ninnies sincerely (and delusively) believe that Islam condones, nay mandates, religious bigotry. You cannot lend respectability to bigotry by claiming that it is from God. This the reason that clerics like Torabi have rejected the regressive, conservative stance on this matter. Any Muslim can marry any non-Muslim. Freedom of choice is a beautiful, dare I say divine, concept.

[Jacaylbaro]

RaMpAgE;714294 wrote:

 

This is what chimera and his cronies wants to see occur more in the Somali community

 

How about this:

 

[Mohammed]

Is this Prometheus person really a Muslim or an atheist? Because the nonsense she is coming out with is shocking.

[Che -Guevara]

Jb-You gotta admit, a woman with a gun is sexy :-)

 

Prometheus.....Clarify one thing, do you have an issue with Islam banning a relationship between a Muslim woman and non-Muslim man? An affirmative yes will help.

 

And as for liberalism, are we talking about Locke liberalism, and subsequent classic and modern liberalism ( all of which are Western construct)?