H.E Abdirizak Haji Hussein lays out a profound case against federalism.

[Gabbal]

Wisdom has no bounds and the former venerable premier displays it in this "father of the nation" type of advice.

 

He calls Federalism the single most effective path to Somalia's natural "self-destruction" and puts forward his own model of "unitary decentralized".

 

Read the full article:

 

http://www.hiiraan.com/op2/2011/apr/the_future_constitutional_structure_of_the_somali_republic_federal_or_decentralized_unitary_state.aspx

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Somalia needs a strong central government federalism will only create conflict between the various clan regions , and it will also undermine the future existence of the national identity of Somalia.

[Gabbal]

Xaaji Xunjuf;713627 wrote:

Somalia needs a strong central government federalism will only create conflict between the various clan regions , and it will also undermine the future existence of the national identity of Somalia.

Some good quotes, good Xaaji

 

In my view, the characteristics that might even remotely warrant a federal system for the Somali Republic are absent. Among the factors that might/would justify federalism for any given country are: the existence of unbridgeable and irreconcilable ethnic, religious or other cultural differences, and/or geographical barriers that would make inter-action/interconnection among the inhabitants difficult or impossible.

Without doubt a federal system of rule is the ultimate, i.e. the most effective prescription for Somalia’s NATURAL SELF-DESTRUCTION

It’s also easy for foreign meddling in the Somali Republic’s internal affairs through incipient federal states. We have already seen clear evidence of this in the current case of “Somaliland” and “Puntland.”

Rather than importing federal arrangements that govern strong and advanced constitutional societies, I proffer that the proposed federal system for the Somali people might, if adopted, bring easily about an unintended and counter-productive spectacle of a country divided into numerous zones(i.e federal states) that are based on clanist allegiances, instead of national civic-mindedness. Such a situation would potentially erode the very foundation of national unity and territorial integrity.

[Jacaylbaro]

Ka rog oo hadana saar ......................... haye haye

[Som@li]

Interesting read, Thanks bro.

 

Yaa ka dhegaysan weeye sheekadu,

[Taleexi]

I second that yaa ka dhegaysan nevertheless, good read indeed.

[Wiil Cusub]

Waa yaabe goormay Somalidu Pension ka gashaa siyaasada

 

This gentlemen must be above 80 and still talking about politics.

 

If he have solution for Somali problems why he did nt try when he was Prime Minister of the Somalia,1964-1967. We know now that he was part of creating this problems

[Som@li]

^Forget about 1964-1967, and listen what he saying now.

 

Marida Makarafooka: C/risaaq X. Xuseen

Ra'iisal wasaarihii hore ee Soomaaliya Cabdirisaaq Xaaji Xuseen waxa uu kaga hadlayaa barnaamijkan xaaladaha Soomaaliya.

Falastin Iman | Washington, DC. Sabti, 23 April 2011

 

Barnaamijka Martida Makarafoonka waxaa todobaadkan marti inoogu ah Cabdirisaaq Xaaji Xuseen oo Soomaaliya ra'iisal wasaare ka soo noqday sanadihii 1964-kii ilaa 1967-kii.

Wuxuuna ka hadli doonaa xaaladda Siyaasadeed ee salka Soomaaliya ee xilligan.

Falastiin Axmed Iimaan ayaa soo diyaaris

VOA interview with A H Hussein

[Che -Guevara]

How old was Wiil Cusub in 64 to know Abdirazak.

 

Abdirazak is not politics but as any citizen he has the right to express his opinion-or is that only for the young people?

[Jacpher]

Odaga makes some valid points hadaanan been la isu sheegeyn. Somali leaders of this day and age aren't ready to lead the country into federal system. Not now not next month or year.

[Wiil Cusub]

^Forget about 1964-1967, and listen what he saying now.

I don't need to listen now because he already made history and still are in his legacy.

 

How old was Wiil Cusub in 64 to know Abdirazak.

May be older than him

 

aduun waa sheeko iyo shaahid sheekadiisaa iga badatay sida tan hoos ku qoran.

 

Mr. Abdirazak was the first post-union Minister of Interior. His record when he held that portfolio is:

 

a) The massacre of the Leylkase clan by the Government forces in the feud between the Leylkase and the Omer Mohamuds of the early 1960s.

 

b) The famous rigging and the blatant mismanagement of the referendum vote on the constitution of the 1961. It is the result of that vote (where allegedly 99 thousand voters, all for the Government side voted in a small village of less than a thousand people) that caused the nicknaming of 'Wanlawein' for all the people of ex-Italian part of the Somali Republic. Wanlawein being the name of that unfortunate small village.

 

c) The 1960 notorious M S regime, where Abdirashid was the Prime Minister, Abdirazak was the Interior Minister, Mohamed Abshir was the head of the Police, Yassin Nur Hassan was the Secretary General of the S.Y.L ruling party, and the President was their in-law, was the most menacing regime that the country had ever seen, and it set a bad start for the Somali people. Mr. Abdirazak was its principal defender. It is well recorded how vulgar and irresponsible were his speeches, especially in the present Somaliland part of the country. If any politician had sown the seeds of mistrust among the Somali people, it is him.

 

 

Let me now try to highlight his time as a Prime Minister of the united country from 1964-67.

 

a) There was a civil war in every region of the country, civil wars where the Government of Mr. Abdirazak was either setting one side against the other, or was too weak to do anything about it. Some of these fratricidal wars were happening outside the borders of the republic, but it is well known that the Government of the time was a participant, one way or the other, in these wars. In the west there was the Makyl Dheere-Bahaber Abdile feud. In Hargeisa Area there was the Arab-Saad Muse feud. In Buroa and Lasanood Area there were skirmishes between every sub clan and other sub clans. In the ****** area there was the Ali-Harrun war and the Afgab-Dhaweed one. In Mudug there was the Leylkase- Omer Mohamud wars, and the Mareehaan-HaberGidir battles. In Benadir there was the Muroorsade-****** one, and only God knows what happened south of that area. During the three years where Mr. Abdirazak was the P.M, the whole nation was in turmoil and the picture was not so much removed from what is happening in ex-italian Somalia of today. There was no life in the countryside at all, and hospitals were full of the wounded and maimed. It is significant to mention that all wars stopped when Abdirazak's Government fell.

 

b) Abdirizaq’s era was a time of civil-wars, famine, drought and great ecological problems. Problems, Most Somali people know Abdirazak as Abdi-Abaar, meaning Abdi- the drought.

[Jacpher]

^Regardless of your little opinion, majority of Somalis highly regard him, highly respect him as a Somali statesman. Abdirizaq Haji Hussein leaves behind a memorable positive legacy in the history books of the country and no amount of old clan grudge of Biridish orphan can erase it. Get over it kid.

[Somalina]

Well said Jacpher.

[Wiil Cusub]

old clan grudge of Biridish orphan can erase it. Get over it kid.

Yes that is what I mean, that is Abdi Abaar Legacy. He couldn't succeed to build bridges between British and Italian Orphans. Same as him you feel that your opinion is superior than my little opinion.

 

Regardless of your little opinion,

Nin qab wayn iyo nin aan u qabin is qaniine.

[Suldaanka]

Horta Abdirizaq siduu uga soo qaxay Kismaayo 1991kii, ma ku noqday dalkii??