Consensus for All-inclusive Somali Conference inside Somalia

[Liqaye]

AMISOM cannot leave BEFORE the conference and the powers that be in al-shabaab are neither sincere or intreasted in Somali reconciliation, that has been proven time and time again.

 

If they were to clear state that the pre-condition for their participation is AMISOMS withdrawal after the reconciliation confrence then well and good. but that will not happen, this obstinancy can not be used as a stick to beat the TFG or any other entity with.

[Peace Action]

Liqaye;712334 wrote:

What we are being forced to swallow either in terms of pure un adulterated clannishness peddelled by dukey boy or alice in wonderland logic by xiinfaniin is that puntland is an un intreasted entity that in terms of somalinimo wants to reach a peacefull conclusion to the current impasse, when the truth is that there power hungry moves have been so patently obvious, so bungling, and so squeamishly reckless no one in the somali political calculus gives them an iota of importance beyond that of another intreasted party, be they somaliland, galmudug, xx, the TFG, the shabaab e.t.c

It is all in your mind and the facts on the ground contradict the above rant. Apparently you side stepped the thread, which calls for a genuine peace conference of all Somali stakeholders rather than this foreign dominated solutions for Somalia which kept Somalis weak and without effective national govt for so long. It is time to come up with solution by Somalis and for Somalis.

[xiinfaniin]

Liqaye & Gabal,

You are showcasing a peculiar political naïveté in your confidence of certain personalities in TFG. I personally have no problem with Sharif and Farmaajo. I believe the former tried and failed. The latter though fresh and capable of doing great things is not in a position to be effective given the fractious nature of the TFG institutions. The current political setup does not really lend itself to enable anyone to succeed. It MUST be changed. Your strong feeling against Puntland’s role is noted but the whole point of this thread is to endorse/promote a conference where such perceptions/grievances, mistrusts are remedied by Somalis themselves.

Somalia as a country failed. And Somaliland, good Gabal, is part of it. Ours is a political division, and in that sense there is no hardened positions that cannot be bridged…all Somalis need to do is talk through what is practically feasible and compromise. The read on the ground is quite legible: Somalia as a whole needs its state back.

[Som@li]

How about Al Shabaab hosting the next Somali conference? Will TFG, and other Somali regional states willing to come?

[Jacaylbaro]

[Suldaanka]

I would also ask you to try to stay on the realistic side of the Somali politikking and cease attempting to bring Somaliland into the picture in order to legitimize your (what seems like) anti-Mogadishu basis of rationalization. Somaliland is for Somalia to sit down with. There is no chance it will risk its self-announced independent position by being seen as another Somali faction part of the Somali southern conundrum. I am sure you already know that though.

Horn,

It is Xiin's way of bringing Dictoore Oodweine back into the forum.

 

 

Anyway, another peace conference, another paper government, another puppet president and namesake ministers and parliament.... it is a deja vu all over again. Some people film hindiga kama xiiso dhacaan malaa (tongue in cheek).

[Wiil Cusub]

JB maanta qisaddii Good iyo Guuled malaha way isbadashay oo Godane oo la eryanayay ayay Moqdisho guudka saaratay cid ka soo dajisana ay laayihiin.

Yaa noqonaya Dawacadii Guuleed ka furfurtay Goodkii?

 

Xiin

if secessionist can wake up from their delusion,

When will you wake up from SYL delusion "Somaliyeey toosoo toosoo iku tiirsada ....

Us long us SYL vision from 70 years ago is untouchable solution is faraway from Somalia.