Somalia: Puntland's Experience in Peace-building and State-building: Faroole's remarks in Nairobi

[General Duke]

^^^14 out of 20 are your clan adeer. The President is from your clan adeer, thus why you are so happy about the secession, you would probably get 70% of everything, XX for Ambasador to Israel, right.

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Duke the president can be from any region we proved that before even the vp can be from any region and the Ministers are spread from every region of Somaliland if one particular clan lives from Awdal all the way to sanaag ofcourse they will get a lion share but the Minister Positions are spread from every region and obviously the two heavily populated regions are Maroodijeex and togdheer Followed by awdal and then gabiley. We are not like Puntland which is a subclan project run by the ssdf, serves the ssdf interest only. The ssdf Parliament makes it impossible for your other clan cousins to become president of the garowe one subclan state. Heck we are even better then our neighbour Djibouti which only allows Ismacil cumar geeles sub clan to run for president.

[AfricaOwn]

Thankful;711528 wrote:

The SNM dominants NW Somalia.

How is that even possible? Yesturday you and Dukey were claiming that they're getting "mugged" WTF? You dudes need to stay consistent with this sh!t.

[AfricaOwn]

Xaaji Xunjuf;711561 wrote:

Duke Somaliland regions get their Fair share in the cabinet

 

Awdal region 3 Ministers

Maroodijeex 5 Ministers

Togdheer 4 Ministers

Saaxil 2 Ministers

Sool 2 Ministers

Sanaag 2 Ministers

Hawd region 1 Minister

Gabiley region 1 Minister

Increase Awdal and Sanaag numbers I say with the expense of Maroodijeex - IMO

[General Duke]

XX is right, 70% for his clan is the "fair share" in his opinion. After all the other combine get 30 %, more than enough for the minorities.

[Saalax]

Xaaji Xunjuf;711568 wrote:

Duke the president can be from any region we proved that before even the vp can be from any region and the Ministers are spread from every region of Somaliland if one particular clan lives from Awdal all the way to sanaag ofcourse they will get a lion share but the Minister Positions are spread from every region and obviously the two heavily populated regions are Maroodijeex and togdheer Followed by Awdal We are not like Puntland which is a subclan project run by the ssdf, serves the ssdf interest only. The ssdf Parliament makes it impossible for your other clan cousins to become president of the garowe one subclan state. Heck we are even better then our neighbour Djibouti which only allows Ismacil cumar geeles sub clan to run for president.

 

Well said.

[General Duke]

^^^Yup well said, 70% for the SNM clan. Using violence to force people villages under occupation.

[AfricaOwn]

General Duke;711581 wrote:

^^^Yup well said, 70% for the SNM clan. Using violence to force people villages under occupation.

"Now can you explain how can SSDF be more than Makhiir, Sool and Goldogob put together?"

 

^^^Explain this

[Thankful]

Xaaji Xunjuf;711568 wrote:

Duke the president can be from any region we proved that before even the vp can be from any region and the Ministers are spread from every region of Somaliland if one particular clan lives from Awdal

Any? So why did the opposition consist of SNM? It was impossible for someone from Sool or Sanaag to be president because they didnt even run. So you are wrong when you say "any" region.

[Taleexi]

PL with all its pitfalls and shortcomings has been a bacon hope for Somalia in regards to building blocks. All that needs to be said is that PL has to see its stability and security through the prism of having strong TFG and make essential by supporting Somalia having a viable state.

[Som@li]

Ninkaad kaba ka tolanaysid kabihiisaa la eega! why oppose to 4.5 system in TFG, while Puntland is built on CLAN systems? Start reforming Puntland first! or is it listen what I say, but not what I do...

 

This is hypercritical, and stup!d

[Som@li]

xiinfaniin;711433 wrote:

Zack, kacaan aanan kugu ogeyn baa ku galay ina aabo!

 

No, Puntland is not based on unfair clan system. There is no 4.5 in Puntland. That is not to say Puntland does not need major political reform. Puntland needs to make the transition from clan delegation forming its parliament, to elections where people elect thier reps just like the SL region did.

 

 

Xiin, Could you explain to us how Puntland Parliament members are chosen? and how it is different from TFG? Are all the clans in Puntland have members in Parliament? are the seated allocated fairly?

[Taleexi]

PL formula of power sharing is not better than the TFG's but it just controls more territory than our government does.

[The Zack]

Som@li;711614 wrote:

Ninkaad kaba ka tolanaysid kabihiisaa la eega! why oppose to 4.5 system in TFG, while Puntland is built on CLAN systems? Start reforming Puntland first! or is it listen what I say, but not what I do...

 

This is hypercritical, and stup!d

They even got the good dabshid upset, freaking pirates!

 

They are preaching the TFG what their mini-state doesn't practice. Faroole is against the clan system of the TFG. :D

[AfricaOwn]

Thankful;711602 wrote:

It was impossible for someone from Sool or Sanaag to be president because they didnt even run..

But its possible for someone from Awdal to be President..correct?