Mahiga Reer Muduga oo Diiday Rajada Muqdisho

[oba hiloowlow]

markaasey 3sano oo kale ku darsadeen lool caado qatayaal rasmi

[Xaaji Xunjuf]

Oba sharif xassan wa jin waleh

[Somalina]

Gaalkacyo:Qaarkamid ah ururada Bulshada rayidka ah & Siyaasiyiinta gobolka Mudug oo canbaareeyey Shirka Nairobi.

 

aalkacyo: (Allpuntland)-Iyadoo maanta Magaalada Nairobi ee caasimada dalka Kenya uu si rasmi ah uga furmay shirka wadatashiga hogaamiyeyaasha Soomaalida ee looga xaajoonayo mustaqbalka soomaaliya & cida badalaysa Hogaanka dawlada Kumeel gaarka ah oo waqtigoodu uu gabagabo yahay islamarkaasna la filayo inay qodobo xasaasi ahi kasoo baxaan ayaa shirkaas waxaa canbaareeyey qaarkamid ah Ururada Bulshada rayidka ah ee gobolka Mudug oo sheegey in uu yahay mid Soomaali lagu kala faqooqayo.

 

Dahabo Maxamed Barre (Dahabo Wadani) oo ah gudoomiyaha Ururka Wadani ee kajira gobolka Mudug oo kamid ah dadkii ka hadlay shirka Nairobi ayaa canbaaraysay shirka,waxaana ay sheegtay in uu yahay mid looga soo horjeedo hanaanka maamul ee ay xukuumada Farmaajo waqtiga kooban dalka uga hirgelisay islamarkaasna ay shaqooyinka culus dalkooda ugu qabteen,iyadoo intaas ku dartay in loo baahanyahay in beesha caalamku ay taageerto hanaanka ay Farmaajo & Wasiiradiisu wadaan.

 

Dahabo Wadani Waxay sidoo kale sheegtay in Shirkani uu lidi ku yahay xukuumada Soomaaliya islamarkaasna aanan la ogolayn in xukuumada dalka arimihiisa faraha looga qaado,iyadoo sheegtay inuu yimid kadib markii Xuuumadu ay ka guulaysatay cadowyadeeda.

 

Faarax Cabdi Doorshe oo kamid ah siyaasiyiinta gobolka Mudug islamarkaasna xilal heer Wasiir ah Puntland kasoo qabtay oo isna dhankiisa cabiray fikirkiisa shirka Nairobi ayaa sheegey in uu yahay mid lagu mijo-xaabinayo hogaanka sare ee Soomaaliya,isagoo ka digay in shirkaasi uu burbur horleh & dawlad la’aan uu Soomaaliya u keenayo,maadaama buuyiri aan lagala tashan xukuumadii dalka kajirtay.

 

Cabdiqani Xayir

Allpuntland

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

Not that Somalis have any say over this but they should not accept term extensions either. Accept it know, and it will be harder to get rid of poor leadership later on. What I don't get is, with his recent success against the shabaab, why is shariif scared to contest an election, direct or indirect? This a is a foolish move nairobi conference or no conference.

[The Zack]

Naxar Nugaaleed;711218 wrote:

Not that Somalis have any say over this but they should not accept term extensions either. Accept it know, and it will be harder to get rid of poor leadership later on. What I don't get is, with his recent success against the shabaab, why is shariif scared to contest an election, direct or indirect? This a is a foolish move nairobi conference or no conference.

He is an African dee sxb. Aren't most Africans scared of elections when they hold the top post of a country. The guys controls half of a city and wants to stay there forcefully LOL.

 

ELECTIONS MUST BE HELD!

[Gabbal]

Libaax-Sankataabte;711184 wrote:

Shariif and Farmaajo haven’t done anything tangible for the country other than make PR noises and complain about "interferences" in order to cling to power. It is time for the country to move on.

Armuu Cumar Cabdirashiid kaa dhex hadlayaa Libaaxoow? I agree the rules should be followed, it is the only way to navigate the waters and chart a transparent form of governance. However, attacking Farmaajo by saying he hasn't done anything tangible when he is being hailed from left and right as the most constructive post-Siyaad national leader during his short tenure says a lot more about you than him.

 

Hopefully, Saado Ali can lesson your harsh tone. Lol

 

 

[Somalina]

[Naxar Nugaaleed]

I Have done something in my short tenure is the go to excuse of every dictator

[Saalax]

African iyo xukun jacayl maxa kala haysta.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Gabbal;711223 wrote:

Armuu Cumar Cabdirashiid kaa dhex hadlayaa Libaaxoow? attacking Farmaajo by saying he hasn't done anything tangible when he is being hailed from left and right as the most constructive post-Siyaad national leader during his short tenure says a lot more about you than him.

lool@most constructive. If giving himself an illegal term extension makes him the “most constructive”, then you and I clearly live in different universes. Malaha our good Gabbal is behind all those hollow press releases giving Al-shabaab 20 days to "surrender". That was a joke Awoowe. :D

 

Jokes aside, Gabbaloow, Ina Abdirashiid is a retired man. It probably would have been entirely permissible to bring him into this debate had I been a tireless supporter of the man. But I see your only yardstick for articulating a disapproval is that based on clanish assumptions. It is fine and dandy awoowe, if you want to take that route. But instead of indulging in unsubstantiated suspicions, wouldn’t it be entirely beneficial to base your defense of Farmaajo on tangible facts rather than on clannish narrow-mindedness?

 

Gabballow, inadeer Tell us all that is tangible (the keyword is tangible) about Farmaajo’s accomplishments which qualifies him to that highest pedestal of political superiority you so fervently identified.

[Liqaye]

LST stop it with the long winded nonsense.

 

Farmajoo has done more in every conceivable yard stick than any other TFG official of the past few years and Cabdi buur was the least of them, it makes my blood boil to listen to that obese nincompoops nonsense on universal tv.

 

Farmajoo's turn as PM has meant a state budjet adhered to, a lean, technocratic and robust cabinet, an improvement in the security situation in the majority of mogadishu, a clear offensive against the al-shabaab in Gedo, The Jubba's, mogadishu as well as central somalia, a clear stance on foreign affairs especially vis a vis the U.N and e.t.c you can refer to a whole 22 page thread on the acheivements of the TFG so far started by somalina. All on a budget of approximately what about 5 centrally situated starbucks in northamerica would earn in a year.

 

Let us compare that with Cabdi fatty's turn at the helm.......zilch apart from a skewered constitution process so preplexing that even the puntland delgation did not understand the nature of financial sharing of resources that might occur between a central and state goverment.

Finally before Cabdirashid was appointed PM he was asking for money to pay his hotel room rate in Barakat hotel in Eastleigh, after being bribed out he was a multi millionaire, trully ninkaasi is the epitome of inability and venality that the TFG has ever seen.

 

So LST either it is qabyalaad or hasiidnimo I dont know lakiin, anybody who looks at it purely on the basis of what has been done or not, there would be no and I mean absolutely no comparision between Cabdi buur iyo Farmajoo.

As to the issue of elections:

Firstly I support an election to be held in august 2011 if for nothing else so as to keep the show moving along, but it means that the parliamentary members must be re-elected - choosen, and preferably for a lesser number than the present 550 mps.

 

If that does not happen then what is the point of it all?

every single section of the TFG will be illegitimate from the illegally extended parliament to the leadership they might choose.

P.S AND until August 2011 the Present P.M and president are legitimate.

[General Duke]

Farmaajo has promised many things and delivered little. He could not bring together his Speaker & President and yet thinks he can bring Somali's together? Come on.

 

As for fighting Al Shabaab, with the support of nearly 10,000 AMISOM troops he has yet to capture the city of Mogadishu, and Al Shabaab are still there. They still control all of the south and remmeber he promised to rid them by 100 days, has he not failed?

 

He takes himself way too seriously and started to believe his own hype. That will be his undoing and that of Sharif Ahmed.

[Taleexi]

Gabbal;711223 wrote:

Armuu Cumar Cabdirashiid kaa dhex hadlayaa Libaaxoow? I agree the rules should be followed, it is the only way to navigate the waters and chart a transparent form of governance. However, attacking Farmaajo by saying he hasn't done anything tangible when he is being hailed from left and right as the most constructive post-Siyaad national leader during his short tenure says a lot more about you than him.

 

Hopefully, Saado Ali can lesson your harsh tone. Lol

 

In all fairness, Farmaajo is doing much better job than my inaader Sharma'arke however, I'm not sure about the success of Saado aiming on Libaax.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

LST stop it with the long winded nonsense

Liqaye, let us steer the debate away from distractions and personal sideshows. Awoowe, support your man with vigor, but don’t violate the rules of the debate by personally attacking nomads. I am also the last person to indulge in vitriol against Farmaajo’s persona as I see you doing against Ina Abdirashiid. It would serve everyone on SOL justice if we stay on topic and move the debate away from personal physique and looks.

 

Now, back to the topic.

 

Awoowe, if much of your evidence for “accomplishment” is based on previous team’s “lack of accomplishment”, then sadly, there is not much to debate on here. Let me emphasize an important point for your consumption: Ina Abdirashiid’s tenure was marred by personal conflict and political differences with his partner Shariif. It is not a small box to be in if you know the way the TFG operates. Nothing tangible was accomplished as a result and that point I concede without any commotion.

 

Then Farmaajo came.

 

Before he took office, he came across as a Siyaadist ideologue. But as the events on the ground rendered the early fears unwarranted, the man found his footing in Shariif’s listening ears. Compatibility is an important commodity in the shifting sands of TFG politics. Shariif and Farmaajo are compatible. But that is where the festivities end awoowe. Both Shariif and Farmaajo see some of the major clan in the country as adversaries that need to be silenced. It is not only Shariif/Farmaajo that hold that view as the first article you posted clearly indicates. Theirs is a shared political thinking lacking of any practical high-mindedness. What the two men have in common is a derivative of that old and dirty “We-have-a-common-enemy” filtering; a filtering which is hardly the tool to build a failed nation around.

 

Having said that, Farmaajo is not a man who lacks the intellectual heft to counter tough political challenges. I defended him here when others were questioning his competence. His seizure of the “waxqabad” mantle, for instance, is nothing short of political shrewdness. He nailed the old Siyaadist “Qawda maqashii” political calculus to its decimals. It is dazzling to watch his press releases. That being said, the most important characteristic the leader of Somalia should have today, and the keyword is TODAY, is having the capacity to bring the different clans together. Sadly, Shariif and Farmaajo seem to have positioned themselves as the masters of a failed modus operandi. As experience teaches us, the old sacred “thou shall not alienate major clans” text is thrown out to the political trash heap. It is a calculated choice and one that pretty much will seal their faith in the political hereafter just like others before them.

 

As for Al-Shabaab, Awoowe, the war campaign against Al-shabaab was in the planning stages for a much longer period predating Farmaajo’s tenure. TFG/AMISOM worked hard to build the needed capacity to tackle Al-Shabaab before the top leaders started falling out. Shabaab's faltering popularity in the wake of the suicide bombings was something the TFG was working hard to capitalize on. To award the current team the entire glory in that whole military calculus against Alshabaab is unreasonable. With that being said, the war efforts against Al-Shabaab were just that, efforts. No tangible gains were made to render the country any more peaceful than it was before.

 

I am willing to debate with you on the issue of accountability and merit. Nairobi Fadhi-ku-dirin stories about Ina Abdirashiid stealing money is not something I should get my hands dirty with. It is a waste of energy on my part to take that route.

 

That is my thought.

[xiinfaniin]

Farmaajo had shown a much needed courage in his cabinet selection, but unless the political in which he is fated to operate changes I dont see him succeeding. I am not the one to believe foreign troops will defeat alshabaab. In the long run, absent of any political settlement, alshabaab will prevail against foreign intervention. All the current offenses, and the gains they made (if any) are sustained by AMISOM. Perhaps we need to remember that Ethiopian troops under Abdullaahi Yusuf term, made much larger gains but did not last because there was no a Somali capacity to sustain it.