Somaliland a history of wretched warlords treachery

[General Duke]

This thread will unmask the fallacies of the secessionist movement in NW Somalia. I would like from the outset, wish to differentiate between the noble Somali calsn of that region and the horrid secessionist agenda. The thread will concentrate on the false premise that there is a difference between all other Somali’s and those that inhabit the triangle area map of Hargaysa, Burco and Berbera.

The Somali people are one, and recent history has shown us that they will not be divided insha Allah.

[Bashiir]

Looking forward to read your inputs let it out awoow..

[General Duke]

Egaal Vs Tuur

 

 

The argument that NW Somalia has had a unique peace in contrast to south is false.

Its amusing that a former PM of Somalia turned out to be the most vocal of all the secessionists. The late Mohamed Ibrahim Egaal, went from a national Somali statesmen to a clan warmonger and secessionist. He betrayed all that he swore on and all that he stood for. The question is for what? The answer to this simple questions is simple, Egaal and all those other cruel men who followed him to the high office of secessionisam were doing it for money. They enriched themselves, they gained power and they played the local people. They used clan arguments and they set clans against each other.

The war that broke out between, Egaal [the winner] and Tuur was a prime example of the fallacy of the secessionist cause. Abdirahman Tuur [AUN] was a long standing commander and leader of the SNM. The Somali National Movement [sNM] was along with the SSDF and USC one of the most famous of the failed rebel movements that participated in the Somali civil war. The SNM never claimed to be a separatist movement, but one that was fighting for the rights of the people of NW Somalia against the tyranny of Siad Barre. However it was Mr Tuur who after the defeat of Barre’s forces in Somalia declared that NW Somalia would become an independent nation or Somaliland. The lack of creativity in choosing the name Somaliland aside, this declaration caused many clans that inhabit NW Somalia to feel threatened. From the outset there were many clan killing nd reprisals against clans which were viewed as being supporters of Barre. The massacre in Borama, and the subsequent clan killing in Sanaag and SOOL are both noteworthy examples of this.

However it was inside the triangle and specifically in the city of Burc which saw the most mayhem and killings. Abdirahman Tuur the founding father of Somaliland was opposed by Egal and their forces went on a bloody killing spree. The city of Burco was destroyed and many of its inhabitants forced to flee. The war continued until Tuur was defeated. Tuur fled to Mogadishu and renounced his secessionist stande, became a unionist overnight and sought the employment of Aydeed, a strong man in Mogadishu at the time. This was a pattern many Somali politicians would repeat over the years. However while some in the south changed sided and factions. The politicians and warlords of the NW Somalia, changed political ideologies at will. A unionist would become a secessionist overnight, and vice versa all for the sake of a few dollars.

[General Duke]

Born in 1931, Tuur had been a diplomat and government official.

 

He later became the Chairman of the Somali National Movement (SNM), a guerilla force drawn from the ***** clan that was attempting to topple the military administration of former President of Somalia Siad Barre. Although the SNM at its inception had a unionist constitution, it eventually began to pursue a separatist agenda, looking to secede from the rest of Somalia. Under Tuur's leadership, the local administration declared the northwestern Somali territories independent on 18 May 1991. He then became the newly-established Somaliland polity’s first President, but subsequently renounced the separatist platform in 1994 and began instead to publicly seek and advocate reconciliation with the rest of Somalia under a power-sharing federal system of governance.[2] Tuur also lent some support to the UNOSOM peace-building mission in the southern regions, which alienated him from Somaliland's succeeding government as well as many former followers.[3]

 

When support for Tuur in southern Somalia failed to materialise, he was exiled to Ethiopia for almost a decade, before returning to Somaliland on 10 February 2003, 9 months before his death on 8 November 2003.

 

From the outset, the SNM was never a secessionist movement..

[General Duke]

More than 100 militiamen royal to former "Somaliland" leader Ali Tuur have surrendered to the current break away republic leader, Mohamed Haji Ibrahim Egal.

 

According to Radio Hargeisa, the militiamen also brought two armed vehicles to the self-claimed "Somaliland president" over the weekend.

 

The militiamen received what the radio said "warm welcom" from Egal and his top officials. Hundreds of residents lined up along the streets of Hargeisa, capital of the break away republic, to greet the militiamen, according to the radio.

 

The militiamen, who came from southeast of Hargeisa, called on those still in the jungle to give up fighting …

 

Rival Somaliland Militiamen Surrender To Egal

from:Xinhua News Agency date:May 7, 1996

[General Duke]

The SNM includes non-***** members but its core leadership operates along ***** Clan lines (Press 1 March 1993). Mohamed Ibrahim Egal has been President of Somaliland since May 1993, winning elections among clan elders in 1993, 1995, and 1997 (AFP 20 Apr. 1995; AP 24 Feb. 1997). According to the Somalia Desk Officer at the Department of State, the SNM views Egal as its legitimate leader (DOS 25 Aug. 1999).

 

Egal, a former Somali Prime Minister ousted and imprisoned by Siad Barre, presides over a Pennsylvania-size patch of scrub with approximately 1.2 million people (AP 7 April 1996). His ascension to office resulted from a clan elders’ compromise to defuse internal clan disputes over the port of Berbera, which almost degenerated into a Somaliland civil war in 1992 (Flint 1993). SNM factions opposed to Egal, however, continued to resist his authority and have undertaken sporadic but occasionally significant armed attacks against his government.

 

In 1994 rebels threatened control of Somaliland’s capital, Hargeysa. By various estimates the fighting displaced tens to hundreds of thousands of people (Somali News Update 1, 14 December 1994).

In 1995 rebels again pressed Hargeysa, particularly around the airport (BBC 21 Aug. 1995). The most prominent rebel leader, Abdurahman Ali Tour (Tur), the first president of Somaliland whom Egal succeeded, was put on trial for treason in October 1995, for “leading a guerilla movement against the present government” and for “opposing Somaliland’s self-declared independence (Radio Hargeisa 6 June 1995).” The issue of Somaliland’s relations with the remainder of Somalia and whether there should be any attempt at reunification is particularly sensitive. Tour and his associates, by having allied themselves with General Mohamed Farah Aideed’s unrecognized government in Mogadishu (Aideed is now deceased), compounded the allegations of treason. More recently, in August 1999 members of an SNM executive committee strongly criticized the Egal government for its proposed changes to the Somaliland constitution (Jamhuuriya 15 Aug.1999).

 

A historical picture. The clan feuds and war is no different to that of any other part of the republic.

[Thankful]

Fascinating information! The secessionist agenda is extremely flawed, if you notice whenever "foreigners" arrive or do news releases, they never leave the triangle! Their reports dont mention the fact that the NW of Somalia's secessionist agenda only allows reporters the ability to travel a small portion of what they claim is their so-called "country". Even the development that is boasted about is only in the three above mentioned cities.

 

The answer to this simple questions is simple, Egaal and all those other cruel men who followed him to the high office of secessionisam were doing it for money. They enriched themselves, they gained power and they played the local people. They used clan arguments and they set clans against each other.

This is clrealy shown by the (s)election in June 2010, in which only one single group made up the opposition. The secessionism was made so the elites of the dominant group can become wealthy!

 

It's obvious that the international community is quite aware of how much control the secessionists really have in the NW as it is shown by Siilaanyo's lack of travel!

[General Duke]

^^^You know that Egal was "elected" by clan elders a number of times..

[Alpha Blondy]

[Jacaylbaro]

 

[AfricaOwn]

Anyone read what he copy and pasted? lol

 

They're bitter I tell ya, bitter

[General Duke]

Thankful;706099 wrote:

Fascinating information! The secessionist agenda is extremely flawed, if you notice whenever "foreigners" arrive or do news releases, they never leave the triangle! Their reports dont mention the fact that the NW of Somalia's secessionist agenda only allows reporters the ability to travel a small portion of what they claim is their so-called "country". Even the development that is boasted about is only in the three above mentioned cities.

 

 

 

This is clrealy shown by the (s)election in June 2010, in which only one single group made up the opposition. The secessionism was made so the elites of the dominant group can become wealthy!

 

It's obvious that the international community is quite aware of how much control the secessionists really have in the NW as it is shown by Siilaanyo's lack of travel!

You got to love our secessionist kinfolk up in NW Somalia. They had a rebel movement like other parts of Somalia. Then these turned into quarrelling factions with warlords such as the late Egal & Tuur fighting over power, just like in other parts of Somalia. Then clan elders intervened and “elected” a president, just like other parts of Somalia. Nothing special so far.

[AfricaOwn]

Thankful;706099 wrote:

Fascinating information! The secessionist agenda is extremely flawed, if you notice whenever "foreigners" arrive or do news releases, they never leave the triangle! Their reports dont mention the fact that the NW of Somalia's secessionist agenda only allows reporters the ability to travel a small portion of what they claim is their so-called "country". Even the development that is boasted about is only in the three above mentioned cities.

 

 

 

This is clrealy shown by the (s)election in June 2010, in which only one single group made up the opposition. The secessionism was made so the elites of the dominant group can become wealthy!

 

It's obvious that the international community is quite aware of how much control the secessionists really have in the NW as it is shown by Siilaanyo's lack of travel!

at least stay with your funny arguments. He visited Erigavo is that part of the triangle you speak off. This would mean you need to come up with another shape that fits your funny argument as you can't use triangle. Stay consistent...consistent my friend.

[General Duke]

^^^Warlord Siilanyo has failed in Cayn, he visited Erigavio you say? Puntland, Somalia has just set up a whole admin in Badhan and there was nothing Siilanyo or the secessionist could do..

[Bashiir]

Duke, focus on the history class, ,,.....don't let the young students distract you...

 

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