Whoever Demands A Verdict From The Kuffar Worships Them

[yaa tahay]

بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم

 

Whoever Demands A Verdict From The Kuffar Worships Them

 

Allahu ta’ala said,

 

أَلَمْ تَرَ إِلَى الَّذِينَ يَزْعُمُونَ أَنَّهُمْ آمَنُوا بِمَا أُنْزِلَ إِلَيْكَ وَمَا أُنْزِلَ مِنْ قَبْلِكَ يُرِيدُونَ أَنْ يَتَحَاكَمُوا إِلَى الطَّاغُوتِ وَقَدْ أُمِرُوا أَنْ يَكْفُرُوا بِهِ وَيُرِيدُ الشَّيْطَانُ أَنْ يُضِلَّهُمْ ضَلَالًا بَعِيدًا

 

Haven't you seen those who claim that they have Iman in that which was sent down to you and in that which has been sent down before you? They want to go for judgment to the Taghut , and they already have been commanded to do Kufr against him. And the Shaytan wants to lead them far astray. (an-Nisa':60)

 

Abdurrahman As-Sa’diyy said in al-Qawl as-Sadid – his explanation of Kitab at-Tawhid – about this Ayah,

 

والواجب على كل أحد أن لا يتخذ غير الله حكما وأن يرد ما تنازع فيه الناس إلى الله ورسوله وبذلك يكون دين العبد كله لله وتوحيده خالصا لوجه الله، وكل من حاكم إلى غير حكم الله ورسوله فقد حاكم إلى الطاغوت وإن زعم أنه مؤمن فهو كاذب

فالإيمان لا يصح ولا يتم إلا بتحكيم الله ورسوله في أصول الدين وفروعه وفي كل الحقوق كما ذكره المصنف في الباب الآخر، فمن حاكم إلى غير الله ورسوله فقد اتخذ ذلك ربا وقد حاكم إلى الطاغوت .

 

And it is obligatory on every single person that he doesn't take anyone except Allah as a judge, and that he brings that in which the people differ back to Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم . By this the whole Din of the slave will be for Allah, and his Tawhid will absolutely be for the Face of Allah.

 

And everyone who goes for judgment to someone else than Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم already went for judgment to the Taghut. And if he claims that he is a Mu'min then he's a liar.

 

The Iman is not valid and doesn't become complete except by going for judgment to Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم , in the foundations of the Din and its subbranches [which are important as well, since there is nothing unimportant in Islam], and concerning all rights, just as the author [Muhammad Ibnu ’Abdil-Wahhab] mentioned in another chapter.

 

So whoever demands a verdict from someone else than Allah and His Messenger صلى الله عليه وسلم he has already demanded a verdict from the Taghut.

[Johnny B]

^So those Muslims who obey the verdict and judgement of any un-islamic court, worship the "kufar" ?

[yaa tahay]

maad akhriday waxa meesha ku qoran horta? there is no moslim who will seek for the a verdict from the kufar... whoever does this is a kafir

 

hadaad kasoo hor jeedo taas bring up the aya's and the ahadith to proof ur point

[Blessed]

Again what's your source? Yaanad ula dam dam leedahay these posts? These articles are so vague as they lack back drop and context. At this rate, wax Muslim la yidhaahdaaba majiraan baad na odhan.

[oba hiloowlow]

Abow waa ku tuugaa threadka Islamka mar danbe wax haku so qorin adoo raali ah!

[Polanyi]

What if my car gets clamped and i get fined 300 pounds fine? So I have to go to court to demand my rights. ....There are many other examples I can give, including a muslim who could be facing trial for a crime he didn't commit. But the point is this: the Muslim Ulema and those with logic have said that it is permissible for Muslims to go to non Muslim courts and secular courts in the absence of shariah courts.

[Valenteenah.]

oba hiloowlow;703413 wrote:

Abow waa ku tuugaa threadka Islamka mar danbe wax haku so qorin adoo raali ah!

I second that.

[Complete]

Eeerm, Muslims are obliged to abide by the laws of the land and country they live in; be it Islamic or not. Wouldn't there be a conflict?

[yaa tahay]

*Blessed;703384 wrote:

Again what's your source? Yaanad ula dam dam leedahay these posts? These articles are so vague as they lack back drop and context. At this rate, wax Muslim la yidhaahdaaba majiraan baad na odhan.

subhanaLaah Ilaahayoow hana indho tirin

 

can u read??? if yes, maxaad kawadaa marka 'what's your source'???

 

adiga what is your source markaad leedahay diintu weey baneesay???

[yaa tahay]

Vans;703705 wrote:

Eeerm, Muslims are obliged to abide by the laws of the land and country they live in; be it Islamic or not. Wouldn't there be a conflict?

 

daliil????

[Complete]

yaa tahay;703849 wrote:

daliil????

Muslims are generally obliged to abide by the laws of the land and the country they live in, whether it is a Muslim state (al-khilafa), Muslim countries, or non-Muslim countries such as those in the west, as long as they are not ordered to practice something that is against Shariah.

If they are forced by the law to commit a sin, then in such a case, it will not just be unnecessary to abide by the law, rather impermissible.

 

........

 

In conclusion, it is necessary by Shariah to abide by the laws of the country one lives in, regardless of the nature of the law, as long as it does not contradict Shariah. However, if the law demands something that is against Islam & Shariah, then it will be necessary to abstain from adhering to it, for the famous Hadith states:

 

�There is no obedience of the creation wherein there is disobedience to the Creator.� (Musnad Ahmad).

 

And Allah knows best

 

Muhammad ibn Adam al-Kawthari

Read the complete answer with Qur'anic text and accounts from the Sunnah at: http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=2409&CATE=144

[Blessed]

I'm asking you for sources because clearly this isn'y your own writing and clearly you lack insight into the various view points on the subject matter. Takfeer is an issue which the great Scholars shied away from, so I find it curious that you're so eager to post and repost vague articles on issues whichare under debate. Those are mere interpretations of Quarn and sunnah btw.

[Nabad_dadaye]

Johnny B;703047 wrote:

^So those Muslims who obey the verdict and judgement of any un-islamic court, worship the "kufar" ?

walaal waxaa jira labo fikir oo ku saabsan dhanka xukunka ,mid waa kan eey aaminsantahay jamaacatu takfiir ee sida qaladkana ufahmay ayadaha quraanka asxaabtiina wey ladagaalamen fikirkaas

mida labaad waa arinta dowladaha muslimka heysto , taasna wexey ubaahan tahay culimada waweyn iney ka fatwoodaan weyna ka fatwoden wadamada badan kooda ayadoo la eegaya fahamka guud ee diinta iyo usuushiisha fiqiga iyo siyaasada sharciga iyo arimaha sideey ukala culusyihiin ayeey fahamkooda ku saleeyeen, dowladaha qaar sida lubnaan muslimiinta iyo gaalada tiradooda saa uma kala badno sidaa darteed diinta islaamka ayaan isku xukmineynaa maku qasbi kartid ,ileyn wexey keneysaa dagaal inuu dhaco dilkii alle xarimay iyo nabadii diinta eey ku socon lahayd fidideeda ayaa joogsanaya wuxuuna noqonayaa meel muslimiinta lagu xasuuqo ,gaal gaalkiisuu uhiilanayaa'e '' nabada ayeeyna diinta ku faafta ,lakin hadii wax kuu diidaya uusan jirin dadkana kuli muslimiin yihiin awood aad diintaada ku difaacdana heysato markaa hadaad diido xukunka ayaa kugu dhacaya , lakin hada lama hayo dowlad sidaas ah . diintana markeey imaato arima sidaan oo kala ah waxaa loo celshaa dadka ahalka u ah ee qof walba oo quraanka xifdiyay ama tafsiir hal sheekh ka aqristay inuu iska fatwoodo waa xaaraam culimada wey isku raacday arinkaas .ee fadlan aqri culimada islaamka arinkaan wexey ka qoreen . dadbaana ku marmarsiyoonaya arinkaas sida USA ugu marmarsiyooto democracy ayaan dunida kusoo dabaalayaa.

[yaa tahay]

Vans;704032 wrote:

Read the complete answer with Qur'anic text and accounts from the Sunnah at:

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=1&ID=2409&CATE=144

al kawtariy is a kafir mushrik waxna kama qaato anigu hadii the aya's and the ahadith are not enough for you as a proof haye get the highway marka

 

i asked u for proof not the words of kawtariy subxanaLaah

[yaa tahay]

*Blessed;704243 wrote:

I'm asking you for sources because clearly this isn'y your own writing and clearly you lack insight into the various view points on the subject matter. Takfeer is an issue which the great Scholars shied away from, so I find it curious that you're so eager to post and repost vague articles on issues whichare under debate. Those are mere interpretations of Quarn and sunnah btw.

waakanaa source: http://iman-in-allah.blogspot.com/

 

hope ur happy now