AYOUB Posted January 27, 2011 Thankful;690845 wrote: That's interesting, because he was in Mogadishu when it happened. Yet why was Riyaale a man that worked under Siad Barre in the area's these bombing took place named President of your enclave? Members of the toppled regime were banned from office in Somaliland for two years. After that, Somalilanders moved on and decided to forgive each other. There's no better example of it than the election of Rayaale as president. I don't expect the likes you to understand it so keep repeating that lame line. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Xaaji Xunjuf Posted January 27, 2011 How can a former minor nss officer order the bombings of heavy populated cities he is not even authorised to do so. The one who are responsible is the former dictator General Muhammad siyad bare also known as the commander in chief of the armed and air forces. defence minister General Maxamamd cali samatar These are guys who are responsible for the carpet bombings of Somaliland cities in the late 80s Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted January 27, 2011 Ayoub, reconciliation is extremely important. There are many people responsible for the crimes that took place. But JB or any other NW Somalia cannot bring up what Siad Barre did 20 years ago, while completely ignoring the members of the regime that were actually on the ground in the area's where war crimes took place. If a ban of 2 years is enough of a punishment against those that choose to work for a murderous regime until the day it crumbled, and considering that they choose to remain employed despite the massive amounts of innocent lives. I agree with you, I can never understand how that could possibly be justified. Do you know how many left years earlier? Somalia’s war criminals are scattered throughout the entire world, but please don’t choose to forgive those that come from your region while still mentioning what Siad Barre did. Xaaji, an intelligence officers role is to gather information or intelligence (sadly and unlawfully this usually includes torture), and give it back to the higher ups. It is they who let the pilots and other military personnel know what the enemy is up to. The "minor nss officer" you talking about are the ones that were actually using their hands following orders. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted January 27, 2011 ^ Oh wise one, what do you suggest? Members of the former regime should all have rounded up and shot? How much down lower the ranks would you have gone? Who would have been the judge, jury and executioner? please don’t choose to forgive those that come from your region while still mentioning what Siad Barre did. We're talking about the 20th anniversary of the former dictators fall buddy! You also seem not able to distinguish between forgiving and forgetting. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted January 27, 2011 The thread diverted to pictures of Hargeysa and blaming him for it, whic his unfair. There are many directly responsible from the regime of 20 years ago. They should be arrested and tried! Since that is unlikely they should have been banned from public office for life. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jacaylbaro Posted January 27, 2011 Isn't he the President ??? ,,, a Dictator that nothing can happen without HIS CONSENT ??? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted January 28, 2011 Thankful;690865 wrote: The thread diverted to pictures of Hargeysa and blaming him for it, whic his unfair. There are many directly responsible from the regime of 20 years ago. I'VE seen one picture and don't see what's unfair about it since the thread is about what happened 20 years ago. No one is stopping you from posting pictures that would make this thread "fair", is there? Thankful;690865 wrote: They should be arrested and tried! Since that is unlikely they should have been banned from public office for life. Who should have banned them? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kornaylka Posted January 28, 2011 Thankful;690865 wrote: The thread diverted to pictures of Hargeysa and blaming him for it, whic his unfair. There are many directly responsible from the regime of 20 years ago. They should be arrested and tried! Since that is unlikely they should have been banned from public office for life. Kiiska ha iska waalin waryaa. This bloodthirsty mongrel was responsible for all the misfortunes that happened in Somalia before and those that continue happening till to day. Live with it, don't make excuses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Zack Posted January 28, 2011 AYOUB;690847 wrote: Members of the toppled regime were banned from office in Somaliland for two years. After that, Somalilanders moved on and decided to forgive each other. There's no better example of it than the election of Rayaale as president. I don't expect the likes you to understand it so keep repeating that lame line. Forget and forgive, huh? How about y'all forgive Jaalle Siyaad, too? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thankful Posted January 28, 2011 The Zack;690917 wrote: Forget and forgive, huh? How about y'all forgive Jaalle Siyaad, too? That's is my one and only point. All I hear is how bad Siad was, yet if this was the case then why are the people who were under his payroll and carrying out his orders not being punished and worst off being chosen as vice-president and then president? Usually you are harder on those that came from your communities and worked for an alledged murderous regime as traitors. Yet in NW Somalia they so easily can forgive, so what about forgiven the whole regime? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GoldCoast Posted January 28, 2011 Reconciliation is the theme of the day yet the American Supreme Court is hearing the trial of the 80 plus year old General Samatar. The irony. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AYOUB Posted January 28, 2011 The Zack;690917 wrote: Forget and forgive, huh? How about y'all forgive Jaalle Siyaad, too? May the Lord have mercy your adeero's soul. Happy now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ibtisam Posted January 28, 2011 Forgiveness ma khasab baa?? Ayoub adiga ayaba ka daaran. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ducaysane Posted January 28, 2011 Qasab ma ahan forgiveness. Laakiin wax soomaliland la dhoho ma jirayso midaas aa qasab ah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites