Egypt protests Cairo is a war Zone

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Middle East analyst Roger Hardy writes on the BBC News website:"If the Egyptian unrest turns into an Egyptian revolution, the implications for the Arab world - and for Western policy in the Middle East - will be immense. Egypt matters, in a way that tiny Tunisia - key catalyst that it has been in the current wave of protest - does not. It matters because its destiny affects, in a range of ways, not only Arab interests but Israeli, Iranian and Western interests, too."

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ElPunto;691185 wrote:

^It won't matter if Hosni is gone and replaced by some like minded hack. If I was to take a wager I bet this regime survives more or less intact with the public fobbed off with cosmetic changes. I don't think Egyptians have the stamina to keep up the pressure on this regime. Millenia of acquiescing to rule by Pharaohs won't be swept away that quickly.

 

What is remarkable is that protests are still being counted in the tens of thousands in a country of 80 million plus.

You are using outdated claims to apply to a modern day reality. Perhaps last week you could claim Egyptians are too apathetic to cause any real change to their regime, but these developments cannot be undermined in their significance.

 

Prior to the fall of Ben Ali not a single person could ever predict any Arab population would have the stamina and engagement to topple their dictators. All bets are off now and you cannot compare this development to anything that happened in the past. These are the first genuine popular revolutions the region has seen dating back to the colonial era. The fact that its taken a matter of days for the situation to develop into its present conception is remarkable in its own. In Tunisia they have continued to protest to almost all the remants of the previous regime have been removed. The Egyptians will surely follow that example when Mubarak is toppled.

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N.O.R.F;691186 wrote:

"The entire staff of the Israeli Embassy in Cairo has been evacuated by helicopters."

The Israelis know when Husni Mubarak leaves the country and his regime collapses, the peace deal between Egypt & Israel will be null & void, Israel has to face 80 million furious Egyptians who can take any action at any given moment!

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GoldCoast-So, in fact members of Ben's family are being arrested and warrant has been issued.

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Che -Guevara;691194 wrote:

GoldCoast-So, in fact members of Ben's family are being arrested and warrant has been issued.

 

Yep but what's even more remarkable is that the people have not been appeased with their exile. They want anyone who has any association to ruling RCD party to step down from top to bottom. The Egyptians will surely follow this example. Words cannot underscore how significant such a development could be.

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^I guess we will see in the coming days. A real popular revolution needs to see sustained pressure and the state security apparatus to not get in the way of the public's desire. Tunisia was a sustained campaign that started in late December and spread and spread. We're at the beginning here in Egypt and I would like to see many more people in the streets. I just don't see the security apparatus melting away like in Tunisia here. I'm not sure Egyptians have shaken off their apathy that quickly. But this all an opinion. Events will unfold as they will.

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With a deep investment in the status quo, Israel is watching what a senior official calls "an earthquake in the Middle East" with growing concern. The official says the Jewish state has faith in the security apparatus of its most formidable Arab neighbor, Egypt, to suppress the street demonstrations that threaten the dictatorial rule of President Hosni Mubarak. The harder question is what comes next.

 

"We believe that Egypt is going to overcome the current wave of demonstrations, but we have to look to the future," says the minister in the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Israel enjoys diplomatic relations and security cooperation with both Egypt and Jordan, the only neighboring states that have signed treaties with the Jewish state. But while it may be more efficient to deal in with a strongman in Cairo - Mubarak has ruled for 30 years - and a king in Amman, democracies make better neighbors, "because democracies do not initiate wars," he says. (See pictures of Egypt's protests.)

 

http://news.yahoo.com/s/time/08599204492900;_ylt=AoQakF9BIF4oA7uk1UuSbZ4UewgF;_ylu=X3oDMTJ1aHA0M3Z0BGFzc2V0Ay9zL3RpbWUvMDg1OTkyMDQ0OTI5MDAEY2NvZGUDbXBfZWNfOF8xMARjcG9zAzMEcG9zAzMEc2VjA3luX3RvcF9zdG9yaWVzBHNsawNlZ3lwdHNjcmlzaXM-

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Reports suggest Egypt's army chief, Lt General Sami Hafez Enan, has cut short a visit to Washington - where he has been discussing defence issues with Pentagon officials - to return to Cairo.

 

Oh oh. Or is going to take over?

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The White House Rep's tone sounds like HM is gone tomorrow.

[ElPunto]

^They wanna get ahead of the Egyptian street. They think if they back any successful popular uprising against Mubarak - their relationship with the country will remain the same. Very deluded. Similar to the invasion of Iraq ushering in democracy across the Arab world.

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^^ They took the same stance in Tunisia as well, fearing they will lose friendship with any future government, all in all, the West want to guard its interest, and they are doing it right now with dat deluded briefing

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ElPunto;691204 wrote:

^They wanna get ahead of the Egyptian street. They think if they back any successful popular uprising against Mubarak - their relationship with the country will remain the same. Very deluded. Similar to the invasion of Iraq ushering in democracy across the Arab world.

Funny thing is they actually had an opportunity to do this. Even an empty message of support would build some measure of goodwill. But that moment has passed a long time ago. Gibbs is embarrassing to hear, and Obama's refusal to face the media is a foreign policy disaster. Entire world is watching Egypt while he flounders and hides behind the oval office.

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The fate of Egypt's President Hosni Mubarak, his entire state apparatus, and that of the popular uprising confronting them now depends largely on the actions of his army and security forces, says BBC Security Correspondent Frank Gardner. This is the most serious popular challenge to his 30-year rule that anyone can remember, and if these protests continue and intensify there are bound to be senior voices within the military tempted to urge him to stand down.

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GoldCoast.....He keep on saying-it's fluid situation, it's fluid situation. It's embarrassing indeed.

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^What you should read into non statements by Obama and a slow response by the White House is 'HM is finished. Time to install someone else'.