Revolution in Tunisia. Which Arab country will be next? Egypt?

[uchi]

Somalia is next......oh wait we already got rid off our dictator and we have nothing to show for it. LOL

[Kamaavi]

 

This revolution is happening in Africa, and Ethiopia is the heard quarter of AU. Besides Somalia is an Arab league Member State, another basic fact @Lazy.

[Somalina]

Kamaavi;687533 wrote:

Ethiopia is next, ...

Ethiopia carab maxaa ka galay?? Since when ay tigrey ay noqdeen arab?

Wixii la rabo ayaa noola aqrinaayaa...

[LayZie G.]

kix kix@Somalina with the obvious....BTW, you forgot to add Xabashi to the list of non-arabs....

 

@@@kamiiva, JABHADA needs your attention more than I do, go wire your minimum wage salary, its friday after all...

[Kamaavi]

Somalina;687562 wrote:

Ethiopia carab maxaa ka galay?? Since when ay tigrey ay noqdeen arab?

Wixii la rabo ayaa noola aqrinaayaa...

Ethiopia iyo carabta Afrika degan meelo badan ayey iska galaan, siyasad iyo taariikh ahaanba...

 

@Lazy, taas ii tilmaami maysid. Wax kale ma haysa?

[Somalina]

Marka waxaad leedahay in a nutshell, Ethiopianka waa Carab? sax ?

[Samafal]

Egyp is afraid and most likely will be next to Tunisia. The gap between the rich and poor is very wide, cost of living is rising as well and Mubarak family are corrupt, dictatorial and repressive. All the ingredient needed to to be next Tunisia really.

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

LayZie G.;687554 wrote:

^I didn't know Ethiopia or Somalia was an arab state? Did anybody bother to read the title of the thread? Did Sanka bother to correct the title? What does tunisia's political turmoil have to do with the next "arab state collapse"? Do any of you know what maghreb means? Lets get the basics straight people, basics@kamaavi.

 

PS: I blame JULIAN ASSANGE for the latest news....he should get the electric chair for this latest fiasco

Lazie ma anigay ila hadlaysaa mise Kamaavi? :confused:

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Tunisia: a 'wake-up call' for Arab leaders

By Charlene Gubash

By Charlene Gubash, NBC News Producer

SOURCE: MSNBC.COM

 

CAIRO – Four months of rioting brought down one of the most authoritarian leaders in the Arab world, Tunisian President Zine al-Abedine Ben Ali, Friday. And many – from Arab analysts to average citizens – believe this may mark a turning point in the Arab World.

 

After two decades of unaccountable leadership, Tunisians suffered from an increasingly unbearable degree of poverty, unemployment, widespread corruption and injustice at the hands of the powerful state security. On Friday they showed the world they’d had enough. But, unfortunately, their plight is a common one shared by the majority of citizens across the Arab world.

 

Many in the region stayed glued to satellite channels Friday watching as Tunisian riot police beat and kicked demonstrators and shot tear gas canisters into crowds. They watched as injured demonstrators were carried away by their colleagues, as the prime minister announced that Ben Ali was no longer in power, and as anchors tried to determine exactly where Ben Ali had fled.

 

And many viewers outside Tunisia pondered what lessons their leaders took away.

 

“I think it has made governments around the region aware that uprising and revolution can happen in the world. It is a wake-up call for some. Definitely after what happened in Tunisia, things will not be the same as before,” Gamal Abdel Gawad, senior analyst at the al-Ahram Center for Political and Strategic Studies in Cairo. “There are many similar countries among non-oil producers, with a lack of democracy and a lack of civil institutions. After Tunisia, perhaps, we will be seeing a different Arab world on the side of the government and people.”

 

Gawad pointed out that the coverage of the government’s overthrow was unprecedented.

 

“The last time this happened was in 1985 when the Sudanese overthrew Numeiri and then there was no satellite TV. This is the first upheaval of that sort watched around the clock instantly by everybody in the region, and its impact will be felt.”

 

A Cairo University political science professor, Dr. Horeya Megahed, agreed. “This might give a lesson to other governments. They might absorb the problems of the people and respond to them.” However, Hani Sabah, an Egyptian technician, could not imagine a similar reaction in his own country.

 

“The oppression the Tunisians faced was so much pressure that it made them explode and do what they did. They suffered from unemployment and high prices,” said Sabah. “But it would be hard for that to happen here with the president and his gang around him…The government’s attitude is: say whatever you want and we will do whatever we want.”

 

Sabah doesn’t anticipate a people's rebellion in Egypt. “Everybody wants to change the system, but the government right now is completely protected … They will shoot at [protesters] with live ammunition. If they are planning to overthrow the government, they will finish them off.”

Aly Ibrahim, a Cairo plumber, was glued to the TV on Friday and surfed channels to catch the latest developments.

 

“The Egyptian news broadcast only a fraction of the story for fear people might get the message. Be sure that so many other countries will get the message and will say, ‘These people managed to do that.’ … The message people got is, ‘Enough is enough!’ They see prices rising, problems in society, and nobody is moving a finger.”

 

 

SOURCE: MSNBC.COM

[Jacaylbaro]

Warkaasaa i deeqa ...........

[Peace Action]

Morocco is monarchy, the last remaining in North Africa but I think Algeria may be next or even Eygpt. With so much lack of freedom coupled with corruption and mismanagement of the economy, these regimes are on the brink of total collapse.

[Peace Action]

NYTIMES

Joy as Tunisian President Flees Offers Lesson to Arab Leaders

By ANTHONY SHADID

The day’s seismic events in Tunisia, the broadcaster, Abeer Madi al-Halabi, went on, would serve as “a lesson for countries where presidents and kings have rusted on their thrones.”

 

Tunisia’s uprising electrified the region. The most enthusiastic suggested it was the Arab world’s Gdansk, the birthplace of Solidarity in Poland, which heralded the end to Communist rule in Eastern Europe. That seemed premature, particularly because the contours of the government emerging in Tunisia were still unclear — and because Tunisia is on the periphery of the Arab world, with a relatively affluent and educated population. Yet the street protests erupted when Arabs seemed more frustrated than ever, whether over rising prices and joblessness or resentment of their leaders’ support for American policies or ambivalence about Israeli campaigns in Lebanon in 2006 and Gaza in 2009.

 

Tunisia’s protests were portrayed as a popular uprising, crossing lines of religion and ideology, offering a new model of dissent in a region where Islamic activists have long been seen as monopolizing opposition. Even if they serve only as inspiration, the protests offer a rare example of success to activists stymied at almost every turn in bringing about change in their own countries.

 

“A salute to Tunis, which has opened the road to freedom in an Arab world devastated by years of waiting on the curb,” said Burhan Ghalioun, head of the Centre d’Études sur l’Orient Contemporain in Paris and a political science professor at the Sorbonne.

 

That the events in Tunisia took place far beyond the region’s traditional centers of power did little to diminish the enthusiasm they seemed to generate. In fact, the very spectacle of crowds surging into the streets and overwhelming decades of accumulated power in the hands of a highly centralized, American-backed government seemed an antidote to the despair of past years — carnage in Iraq, divisions among Palestinians and Israeli intransigence and the yawning divide between ruler and ruled on almost every question of foreign policy.

 

The protests’ success gripped a region whose residents have increasingly complained of governments that seem incapable of meeting their demands and are bereft of any ideology except perpetuating power. The combustible mix that inspired them — economic woes and revulsion at corruption and repression — seemed to echo in so many other countries in the Middle East, American allies like Egypt foremost among them.

 

Al Jazeera headlined its broadcasts: “Tunisia ... the street creates change.”

 

Mohammed al-Maskati, a blogger in Bahrain, put it more bluntly on Twitter. “It actually happened in my lifetime!” he wrote. “An Arab nation woke up and said enough.”

 

Through the eight years of the Bush administration, democratization was at least a rhetorical priority of American policy in the Middle East, even as the United States maintained its support for Egypt, Saudi Arabia and other authoritarian governments in the region. On Thursday, as the protests in Tunisia were escalating, Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton issued a scathing critique of Arab leadership and the region’s political and economic stagnation. Her comments seemed one attempt to reposition the United States, which backed Tunisia’s dictatorial leader as a partner against terrorism.

 

In the end, the most dramatic change in the old Arab order in years was inspired by Mohamed Bouazizi, the 26-year-old university graduate who could find work only as a fruit and vegetable vendor. He set himself on fire in a city square in December when the police seized his cart and mistreated him.

 

A Facebook page called Tunisians hailed him as “the symbol of the Tunisian revolution.” “God have mercy on you, Tunisia’s martyr, and on the all free martyrs of Tunisia,” it read. “One candle burns to create light and one candle beats all oppression.”

 

In Egypt, his name came up at a small solidarity protest.

 

“Egypt needs a man like Mohamed Bouazizi,” said Abdel-Halim Qandil, a journalist and opposition leader who joined dozens of others at the Tunisian Embassy.

 

The momentum of Tunisia’s street protests overshadowed other instances of dissent in the Arab world. In Egypt, protesters, often lacking in numbers, are occasionally beset by divisions between secular and religious activists. The mass protests in Lebanon that followed the assassination of Rafik Hariri, a former prime minister, in February 2005 ended up deepening divisions in a country almost evenly split over questions of ideology, sectarian loyalty and foreign patrons.

 

Tunisians’ grievances were as specific as universal: rising food prices, corruption, unemployment and the repression of a state that viewed almost all dissent as subversion.

 

Smaller protests, many of them over rising prices, have already taken place in countries like Morocco, Egypt, Algeria and Jordan. Egypt, in particular, seems to bear at least a passing resemblance to Tunisia — a heavy-handed security state with diminishing popular support and growing demands from an educated, yet frustrated, population.

 

In Jordan, hundreds protested the cost of food in several cities, even after the government hastily announced measures to bring the prices down. Libya abolished taxes and customs duties on food products, and Morocco tried to offset a surge in grain prices.

 

“It’s the creeping realization that more and more people are being marginalized and pauperized and that, increasingly, life is more difficult,” said Rami Khouri, director of the Issam Fares Institute at the American University of Beirut. “You need little events that capture the spirit of the time. Tunisia best captures that in the Arab world.”

 

Despite the enthusiasm, the scene Friday night in Cairo might serve as caution.

 

The protesters who gathered at the Tunisian Embassy in the upscale neighborhood of Zamalek chanted slogans into a megaphone and waved red Tunisian flags. They went through a litany of the region’s strongmen — from Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi of Libya to Hosni Mubarak of Egypt — and warned each that his day of reckoning was coming.

 

“Down, down with Hosni Mubarak!” some chanted.

 

“Ben Ali, you fraud! Mubarak, you fraud! Qaddafi, you fraud!” others shouted.

 

They were ringed by police officers in black berets, and outnumbered by them, as well. They had little room to maneuver. And an hour later, the protesters went their way, a Tunisian flag flying from one of the cars, as it ventured down a largely empty street.

 

 

Nada Bakri contributed reporting from Beirut, and Liam Stack from Cairo

[The Zack]

Jacaylbaro;687595 wrote:

Warkaasaa i deeqa ...........

what is in it for you? Didn't know inaad xarash u heysid Tunisia or Carabta overall.

[N.O.R.F]

I don't think anything will happen in other larger Arab countries. Unless a leader galvanises the people and makes them believe the govnt needs overthrowing. Even then they might think having people killed to achieve it isn't worth it.

 

Ps hope Tunisia changes for the better.

[Fisher man]

Yakh33 masar iyo tunisia naga dhafa n0oh wadankenaa d0wlad nooga dhashay evrybdy isdiyaari sharci baa la qebin rabaa yuu kaa dhamanin n0oh