Wadani Posted January 21, 2013 Alpha Blondy;910652 wrote: ^ OLDBOY is one of the classics. awesome movie. any Hollywood remark will never come close to the original. remember how they ruined 'infernal affairs' with its cosmetic remark 'departed'...... the deliberate showings of human genitalia in Hollywood movies is a far cry from the 'authencity' it seeks to achieve. this most recent phenomena is the work of the liberal media in their attempts to over-sexualise audiences. more interestingly, perhaps, laakin, is this feud between spike lee and jamie foxx over the movie's 'portrayal' of slavery. foxx has attacked lee in several interviews - saying that lee's comments were 'outdated' and uncalled for. but are they are outdated? i tend to think otherwise. the Hollywood machinery continues to denigrate black people in the most negative ways imaginable. the portrayals of blacks is often reworkings of the same, narrow and indeed one-dimensional stereotypes. lee wasalso to 'critical' in his views. his views which have become the 'bread and butter' of the all too familiar ''aniga og-conscious-back-to-basics-Afrocentric-lazy-thinking'' that seems to reek from those self-righteous black folks. certainly there has to be a middle ground but the last thing we needed was a public feud between two of our best Hollywood A-list celebs. the whites are laughing at us. +1. But Alpha based on what do you use the word 'we' when speaking of black people in America. I for the most part identify as black, but then I can't help but to question for a number of reasons the rationale behind including Somalis in to this broad, and arguabley meaningless, categorization. It's not the commonalities between Somalis and other blacks that subsumes Somalis under the term, as there are practically none, but our collective otherness to the white superstructure, and our subsequent shared experiences as a result of this othering. But if it's only our plight in the western world that binds us together, and not a common history, culture and for the most part religion, what then is the justification for calling Somalis black, a term mind u that was never used by our forefathers to self-identify? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted January 21, 2013 its them and us, wadani. i'm thinking at the top level. black for me encompasses a particular mind-set with its own values, norms and sub-culture. sometimes, you can have blacks who serve the whites but whites cannot work with us. these blacks who work within the white superstructure hegemony are called - 'sell-outs'. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
underdog Posted January 21, 2013 #6. Everyone in Africa Is Uncivilized or a Warlord In Hollywood movies, Africa is a shitty place to be. One of the most iconic scenes in action movie history comes at the end of Independence Day, when we see that the invading army of aliens has finally been defeated by a concerted, collaborative effort by the entire world (but mostly the U.S., and mostly Jeff Goldblum), and we get a montage of the wreckage on different continents. ...America gets a military base ... ... Australia gets some of that crazy architecture ... ... and Africa gets ... naked dudes brandishing spears? Apparently, this barren land is the closest thing the aliens could find to a major population center in Africa. That's because for Hollywood, the entire continent hasn't advanced much since Jesus was still around. The opening to Casino Royale, for instance, introduces us to Africa with the image of a bunch of black guys betting on a fight between a mongoose and a snake. The one area where Africans have caught up to the rest of the world is guns: They don't have any modern buildings yet, but they've figured out how to attach a rocket launcher to the side of a truck. This is only natural, since half the continent's population consists of corrupt soldiers. Congo, Black Hawk Down, Blood Diamond, Hotel Rwanda ... all these movies spend the whole time telling us that Africa is scenically beautiful, but terrible in every other way. So What's the Deal? In the same way that Hollywood needs to dumb down a novel to turn it into a hit film, they also dumb down Africa's reality, because they assume that you'd be bored by a realistic portrayal of the continent (or you simply wouldn't believe it). They do have things like poverty and corruption and giraffes in Africa, but they also have universities and industries and modern cities, like Nairobi: Imagine if every single movie set in America was filmed in Alaska and focused on gang violence -- that's how Africans feel every time they watch a Hollywood movie about warlords fighting in the desert. Which is a problem for their tourism industry: A board member for the Association for the Promotion of Tourism to Africa even takes the time to explain that there are "middle class people in every African country commuting to work every day, complaining about taxes and watching their kids play soccer every weekend." That's right: Instead of focusing on the rich wildlife and history, the tourism industry actually has to remind people that coming to their country isn't a ******* death warrant. http://www.cracked.com/article_20082_6-insane-stereotypes-that-movies-cant-seem-to-get-over.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reeyo Posted January 21, 2013 Nice read ^. I had an awkward moment today with a fellow stranger, who happen to be a Somali. There I was waiting stuck in traffic (caused by the darned white stuff!) listening to some killing tones and of cause doing what I usually do in the privacy of my own car. Singing, bobing my head and doing my lame *** moves to bypass the time. And all this time a creepy looking Somali guy was standing at a bus watching me. He didn't even look away when I caught him looking. We exchanged a long suspicious look and I drove off. Always love exchanging them looks with my fellow Somali people. It's always exciting seeing another Somali. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 21, 2013 ^ hahaha, couldn't help but laughing reading that. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reeyo Posted January 21, 2013 Haha. It is funny I guess. But don't you love that bypassing look you get with every Somali you meet randomly? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 21, 2013 I do love it. It's our weird way of saying 'ur a somali and im a somali, so if anything happens within the next few seconds, while were still in each others range of vision, I got ur back.' lol Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
underdog Posted January 21, 2013 Reeyo;910766 wrote: Haha. It is funny I guess. But don't you love that bypassing look you get with every Somali you meet randomly? ...especially in airports Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reeyo Posted January 21, 2013 Wadani;910772 wrote: I do love it. It's our weird way of saying 'ur a somali and im a somali, so if anything happens within the next few seconds, while were still in each others range of vision, I got ur back.' lol Haha. is that how you see it? Walle that is nice. I always saw it 'I am Somali, your Somali, I may know your relatives and I can easily report you...so I am watching....' That's why I felt girls that dress inappropriately get extra b.itchy. Right? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted January 21, 2013 Reeyo;910759 wrote: Nice read ^. I had an awkward moment today with a fellow stranger, who happen to be a Somali. There I was waiting stuck in traffic (caused by the darned white stuff!) listening to some killing tones and of cause doing what I usually do in the privacy of my own car. Singing, bobing my head and doing my lame *** moves to bypass the time. And all this time a creepy looking Somali guy was standing at a bus watching me. He didn't even look away when I caught him looking. We exchanged a long suspicious look and I drove off. Always love exchanging them looks with my fellow Somali people. It's always exciting seeing another Somali. couple of questions about this sensational story. 1. what songs were you listening to; 2. this somali ''creep-like-creature''. did you at any moment think he'll do something horrible to you? interestingly, the liberal media and hollywood movie machinery have been instilling these fear-mongering projects of black men for years. had you experience being different if he was a white and would you have felt 'safer'? 3. how long were these glances you shared with the somali 'creep-like-creature' and did you at any time during these glances present yourself in a manner that might hint towards something all together 'suggestive'? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reeyo Posted January 21, 2013 LOL @ Alpha. What the hell analyzing? Let me attempt a serious answer: 1. Believe it or not it was Oasis and some random WESTLIFE! yep I said Westlife. 2. I didn't fear the brother. I was freaked out that I saw a Somali! and he saw me dancing in my car. 3. This question is confusing. what do you mean by 'suggestive" and 'present yourself in manner' War I was in my car at a traffic light. Apophis: don't knock warya, I have some cool moves even when I sitting Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted January 21, 2013 Apophis;910789 wrote: Good god Reeyo, the guy was puzzled by your odd behaviour not your Somaliness; maybe he thought there was bee in the car and you were fighting it LOL@Apo, those attempts to help the damsel in distress are the perfect opportunities to grab a bit of this and touch a bit of that. i heard a story of a woman possessed by evil spirits in the most terrible ways and how she'd 'rolled' across the floor of majilis and how the guys were literally fighting each other to grab a bit of this and that. LOOOOOOOOOL. interestingly, in the liberal media and hollywood movie machinery, the blacks are portrayed as opportunistic rapists on the 'hunt' for a piece of meat. the victim is never someone important's wife or daughter from suburbia but a crack-head drug addict prostitute. once again demonstrating the low value ascribed to blacks and the even lower status and profile of their 'victim'. she probably owed money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reeyo Posted January 21, 2013 ^ You're weird. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wadani Posted January 21, 2013 Reeyo;910778 wrote: Haha. is that how you see it? Walle that is nice. I always saw it 'I am Somali, your Somali, I may know your relatives and I can easily report you...so I am watching....' That's why I felt girls that dress inappropriately get extra b.itchy. Right? Lol, ur right, that's how i'd probably view it too if I were a Somali of the fairer sex. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alpha Blondy Posted January 21, 2013 Reeyo;910800 wrote: ^ You're weird. let's just say your lucky it wasn't me just standing there and observing you from afar. do you remember Lenny from Of Men and Mice? YES! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites