Maagmaag

[Bakar]

MMA

 

What was the doctrinal differences between the two, which caused Sheikh Awies loose his life? Given that they were strong follower of thier respective school of thought, killing the sheikh is still against basic principle of Islam.

:confused:

[Bakar]

Originally posted by Farxan:

Some of the practices in those areas were condtractictory to the preaching of the sayid,thus he may have killed some,including Awies.

Macallinka:-

 

Ma Sayidka Kitaabkale oo ka gedisan tii Furqaan (Qur'an) buu watay? Now I am more confused.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Originally posted by Bakar:

MMA

 

What was the doctrinal differences between the two, which caused Sheikh Awies loose his life? Given that they were strong follower of thier respective school of thought, killing the sheikh is still against basic principle of Islam.

:confused:

Waxee ku kala duwanayeen walaahi maadaama aan aqoon weyn u lahayn ma sheegi kari. Koleey "doctrinal differences" saas ma u weyneen, oo waxyaabaha taariqada yar yar ee ku kala duwanayeen.

 

Qaadariya waaba ka fac iyo caan weyntahay oo caalamka dhan ayaa laga yaqanaa, waxaana loogu magac daray ninka meesha maanta Ciraaq eh ku dhashay oo la dhihi jiray C/qaadir Jeylaani (1077–1166). Soomaalida badankood intuu Siidka imaan waxee raacsanayeen Qaadariya. Waana isla mida Sheekh Aweys iyo sheekhyo badan oo caan eh kamid ahayeen, waana mida uu asaga ku faafiye meelo badan kamid ah dalka, siiba Koonfurta iyo xitaa ilaa Geeska Afrika wadama kale kamid yihiin Sanjibaar (Zanzibar), Tansaaniya iyo Keenya.

 

Laakiin Saalixiya waxaa "founder" gareeye ninkii la dhihi jiray Sheekh Maxamed Saalax (1853-1917) oo reer Suudaan ahaa. Sheekhaan iyo Siid C/lle Maxamed Xasan waxee ku kulmeen Makka, waana meeshuu dariiqa Saalixiya kasoo qaatay kuna tala galay in uu ku faafiyo dhulka Soomaalida oo waagaas aan laga aqoon dariiqdaan cusub, maadaama ay ahayd dariiq cusub oo markaas la aas aasay, inkastoo aas aasida koow aan laga soo bilaabin maadaama ninka aas aasay uu ahaan jiray Axmediya, wax yarna ka badalay oo Saalixiya loogu magac daray.

 

Siidka wuxuu aad iyo aad ugu xanaaqay (xanaaqiisana waa badnaa maadaama uu bilaabay in uu ku faafiyo dhul "hostile" ku eh dariiqdiisa cusub, siiba meeshuu ka bilaabay oo ahayd Berbera, meeshuu daganaa macalinkii wax soo baray intuu u dhoofin Makka) dadka sheekhyada ahaa oo Qaadariya badankood waxee la shaqeynayeen reer Gumeysi (waa sida uu u arkay) mise wee u dulqaadan jireen. "Tolerance" ama dulqaadashaan ay u dulqaadanayaan gumeysiga Siidka aad ayuu ugu carooday, waana markuu ku bilaabay gabayadiisa kul kululaa.

 

Saalixiya kistoo "conversative" ayee ahayd oo Siidka reer Qaadariya wuxuu u heystay in ee yihin dad "moral laxity" ah, oo dadka iska fur furan ahaa. Siidka jaadka wuu kasoo horjeeday oo waagaas dad yar cuni jiray. Gabayadii si la iskugu dhiib dhiibaba waxee sheekada kululaatay markuu Siidkana masaajid ka furtay Berbero oo uu ku wacdinaayo dariiqdiis cusub ee Saalixiya. Cullumadii meeshaas joogay aad ee ugu caroodeen, dagaal gacan ka bacdina markii danbe Britishka masaajidka Siidka oo ahaa Saalixiya ka xireen. Waana meeshuu mujaahidnimadiis weyneed ka bilaabay, xataa ku daray Qaadariya cullumadii kamid ahaa maadaama, waa suu u arkee, ee la shaqeynayaan gumeysiga.

 

Intuu sii socday oo saldhig cusub uu raadinaaye wuxuu horey jidka ugu arkay meel "missionary" furatay oo ciyaal yar yar Soomaali lagu xanaaneeyo. Wiil yar kamid ahaa ciyaalkaas ayuu magaciis weydiiye, wiilkii wuxuu ugu jawaabay, "John Cabdullaahi weeyaan magaceyga." Waa caradii u danbeysay uu ku go'aansaday in uu la jihaad galo gumeysiga intee Soomaali gaaloobi lahayd.

 

University of Pennsyslvania ayaa wax yar ka qortay gumeysiga Talyaaniga iyo siduu Sheekh Aweys ula dhaqmaaye:

 

I n 1889, Barawa fell into the hands of the Italians when the Sultan of Zanzibar was forced to agree to the annexation of the Banadir ports to the Italian colonial administration of the Horn. Barawa resisted the Italians. Sheikh Uways al-Baraawi organized his Ikhwaan and instigated the Banadir revolt, which was defeated in 1908. Sheikh Uways migrated to Biyoley to reorganize his Ikhwan but was killed in 1909.

 

His successor Khalif Sheikh Faraj was also killed in 1925. However, the Uwaysiyya order, named after the martyr Sheikh Uways, emerged throughout southern Somalia and East Africa, establishing jama’as in the riverine region, which became strongholds of the educated elite and refuge for the disadvantaged. From these Jama'as, many influential political leaders emerged to form modern Somali political parties. Abdulkadir Sakhawuddin, the founder of the Somali Youth Club (SYC), in 1943, was not only an Uwaysi leader but also the grandson of Sheikh Uways. Barawa was the stronghold of HDM (a former political party) founded in 1947. In addition to Sheikh Uways, Baraawe could boast of notable Ulama in the fields of Islamic jurisprudence, Hadith, Tafsir and Sufi literature, among them Sheikh Nureini Sabiri, Sheikh Qassim al-Baraawi, Sheikh Ma'llim Nuri and a female poet-saint, Dada Masiti.

 

Sidaa arkeysid Sheekh Aweys sida laga rumeysan yahay ma'aha oo intii tabartiis ahayd wuu damcay in uu iska dhiciyo gumeysiga, markii laga xoogbatayna u dhaqaaqay "deep in the interior" dalka maadaama gumeysiga awoodiis ku yarayd meeshaas.

 

Dilka Sheekh Aweys iyo dadka dilay oo ka danbeeye, Soomaalida badankood koox Daraawiishta kamid ahayd inay dileen ayee aaminsanyihiin maadaama uu "support" ee ka dalbadeen uu u fidin waaye, kana diiday wax iska caawin ah website-kaan wuxuu ka qoraa:

 

A ll these actions were against the gist of the Daraawiish movement, it also estranged him from other religious orders such as the Qadiriya and Dandarawiya. The conflict stretched to such an extreme that the Daraawiish killed a Qadiriya representative in southern Somaliland, Sheekh Awees Biyooley (Sheikh Uways bin Maxamed al-Baraawa) in Biyooley, southern Somaliland, in 1909. The Daraawiish also razed a Qadiriya settlement in Sheikh, a small town between Berbera and Burco in British Somaliland. The Qadiriya was deeply rooted in the country when Sayid Maxamed started in his struggle 1890s. Somalis believe that pious men are people that must be respected and killing them is believed to be a nefarious act. The unsympathetic pogrom of pious Muslims was the most abominable offense in Islamic teaching.

 

Qaladkee gishay Daraawiishta gumeysiga ayaa aad ugu faa'ideysan jiray, dadaal dheer ka bacdi wuu ku guuleystay.

 

Siidka Eebe ha u naxariistee waqtigiis uu kasoo hormaray oo Soomaali dariiqa iyo qabiil bas ayee fiirin jireen waagaas, maantana qabiilkii waa jiraa wali oo meel uma dhaqaaqin.

[Som@li]

Originally posted by Bakar:

quote:Originally posted by Farxan:

Some of the practices in those areas were condtractictory to the preaching of the sayid,thus he may have killed some,including Awies.

Macallinka:-

 

Ma Sayidka Kitaabkale oo ka gedisan tii Furqaan (Qur'an) buu watay? Now I am more confused.

Ur Qs hve been answered by MMF, I 100% agree with him,MMF,Well done bro.

[Bakar]

MMA

 

Thanks for the brief historical background of the incident. I have come across several sources, which I think exhibits fairly corresponding element, including the one you have just posted. However, it seems to me that you are somewhat tentative to go length at the fundamental distinction between them. Fair enough, you have been very helpful.

 

 

"Two great scholars, each of whom came later to be known as Sheikh Al-Islam, Izzuddin ibn Abdul Salan and Ibn Taimiyah are of the view that Abdul Qadir's work was miraculous, but his miracle of miracles was filling the hearts of the despaired and the broken-hearted with faith, hope and enthusiasm. He infused a breath of new life, zeal and self-confidence into countless persons through his power of speech and the spiritual power of his heart. He was, in truth, a blessing for the world of Islam for he renovated and revived the true content of the faith and tapped the sources of moral spiritual strength for a religious renaissance."

 

http://www.ourdialogue.com/a1.htm

[Gabbal]

Sheekh Aweys, whose grave is said if one visited seven times in Biyooleey is equivalent of visiting Makka

The things people come up with. Such blasphemy, acuudi bilaah.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Salaan...

 

However, it seems to me that you are somewhat tentative to go length at the fundamental distinction between them. Fair enough, you have been very helpful.

Waan jeclaa lahaa in aan sii dhexgalo, laakiin nasiibxumo aqoon weyn, waa sidaan horey u sheegay, uma lihi dariiqayada suufiyaasha. Taas waxaaba kasii daran dariiqda Saalixiya saas uma caansana, oo Geeska Afrika (Horn of Africa, including Suudaan) kaliya ayee ku faaftay, saas xataa uguma faahin oo dad yar kaliya ayaa qaatay. Sababta ugu wacan marka koowaad waxaa waaye maadaama ee ahayd "a relative new comer" dariiq oo hal qarni iyo wax yar kaliya ayee jirtaa.

 

Mida labaadna daabacaad badan ma laga sameynin dariiqdaan Saalixiya ah, inkastoo kasoo faracantay Axmediya; laakiin waxee Soomaalida waagaas isku raaceen ama ugu muuqatay inay ahayd "radical," in the sense Gaalada maanta u dhahaan qofkii diinta ku adag oo asal raac ah "Wahhabi" ama Salafi.

 

Waagii Siidka uu keenaaye dariiqdaan Soomaalida waxee u qaateen "fanatic" iyo "extremist" dariiq ah inay tahay, tan ugu koowaad saas u noqotay waxee ahayd siyaasad ayee dhex gishay. Reer Qaadiriya siyaasada waa ka aamusaan oo diintooda ayee ku ekaadaan wixii kale ka dhacaayo 'state' saas uguma hadlaan, kaliya xaalada markee weynaato. Reer Qaadiriya waxee isku heysteen inay ahaayeen dadka ugu dagan, oo naftooda ayee ka adkaan jireen, waa see isku heystaan, wax duniya ah oo nafta iyo nolosha jecel kuma mashquuli jirin.

[lol]

lamo goodlee meel leesku keenay wal feylan malaka filow. Mey meehaan af may may luga waramo un filaashe, widaygow dhimadi walkiis iin biloowdeen.

[MR ORGILAQE]

hibo say that once again in somali please

[lol]

Orgi I don't love you that much... sorry its for the maymay speakers and u ain't one of them

[Bakar]

Originally posted by ORGILAQE:

hibo say that once again in somali please

Widaayow, kiin jawaabi fadey laakin nick name iyaa ko obsidi, widaay dadk lee in dhunjidooy Lan orgi liqaaw orodiis wal kubirimee, in ahayna adi orgi kitaawiye

[Bakar]

Originally posted by Hibo:

lamo goodlee meel leesku keenay wal feylan malaka filow. Mey meehaan af may may luga waramo un filaashe, widaygow dhimadi walkiis iin biloowdeen.

Dad badan iyaa kaloosadka ka jira. Adeeba haka bati, waana saasa lafade ariitana. Lama goodle wareersho noo dhaaf waana hadalka meela hal kuwadooy. Haye barbaarey salamantiin.

[Tuujiye]

Daanyeer hoo waltaraw dubsheewa daboolidi fadi.

...loooooooooooooooooool....

 

Wareer Badanaa!!!