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[AYOUB]

Fists fly in Somali assembly over vote

Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:25 PM BST

 

BAIDOA, Somalia (Reuters) - Some Somali lawmakers threw punches and wrestled on the floor after Prime Minister Ali Mohamed Gedi survived a crucial confidence vote that could have led to the collapse of his government.

 

Armed police entered parliament to separate four brawling members of parliament and escort Gedi out during several minutes of chaos after he survived the censure motion, witnesses said.

 

Gedi won 88 votes to his opponents' 126 -- short of the two-thirds majority they needed to censure him in an old grain store converted into Somalia's temporary parliament.

 

 

Defeat would have sparked the dissolution of the interim government's executive, already in some disarray over the threat from an Islamist movement that has taken the capital, Mogadishu, and a large part of southern Somalia.

 

"Whatever we were accused of we will try to rectify," Gedi told about 200 supporters who celebrated later outside his home.

 

"I thank those who brought the motion because they proved that we have democracy," he added in a conciliatory tone.

 

The anti-Gedi faction had argued his performance was incompetent and his removal necessary to create a post for Mogadishu's new Islamist rulers to come into government.

 

However, the Islamists' top leader said machinations within government did not affect their position of refusing talks until pro-government Ethiopian troops leave Somali soil.

 

"We don't care whether it's a single soldier or a whole battalion ... as long as they are in our country, we will not attend," Islamist leader Sheikh Hassan Dahir Aweys told Reuters of efforts to get both sides to a negotiating table in Sudan.

 

TRADITIONAL ENEMY

 

The Islamists took Mogadishu and other southern towns last month from U.S.-backed warlords, denting the Western-backed government's aspiration to restore central rule to Somalia for the first time since the 1991 overthrow of a dictator.

 

Based in the provincial town of Baidoa, a former agricultural and trading town set in flat bushlands, the internationally-recognised but effectively powerless government was set up in 2004 to try to end anarchy in Somalia.

 

 

Some anti-Gedi members of parliament and cabinet members are also angry at him for the government's controversial ties to Ethiopia -- Somalia's traditional enemy -- which is believed to have sent hundreds of soldiers over the border.

 

President Abdullahi Yusuf has long been close to Ethiopia, and Gedi is accused by some of "selling out" to Addis Ababa too.

 

Sunday's brief brawl was not the first time Somali legislators had turned violent on the job: a 2005 parliamentary session at a Nairobi hotel degenerated into chair-throwing.

 

As he comes from the same clan as many of the Islamists -- and thus occupies the position agreed to be given to that clan in the interim government -- Gedi's position had long been seen as the one most likely to attract them into government.

 

The Islamists, however, have not said if they even want power-sharing. And some fear they seek a complete takeover by military means to create an Islamic state based on sharia law.

 

Surviving the censure gives Gedi a much-needed boost.

 

His executive began unravelling last week with the resignation of 18 ministers and assistant ministers, who said they were stepping aside to promote the Sudan peace talks.

 

Then gunmen shot dead a cabinet minister outside a mosque on Friday, which sparked riots and ratcheted up tension in Baidoa.

 

In a separate development, the first conventional passenger plane in 15 years landed at Mogadishu's recently reopened international airport on Sunday, residents said. reuters

 

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Booliska Dawlada Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa maanta kala dhexgalay Laba mudane oo lakala yiraahdo Xuseen Caraale iyo Maxamuud C/laahi (Sifir) oo maanta isku feeray xarunta Baarlamaanka ee Magaalada baydhabo kadib markii ay lakala safteen Xukuumada raisalwasaare Geedi iyo Xildhibaanadii Mooshinka soo bandhigay.

Posted to the Web Jul 30, 06:49

 

 

Booliska Dawlada Federaalka Soomaaliya ayaa maanta kala dhexgalay Laba mudane oo lakala yiraahdo Xuseen Caraale iyo Maxamuud C/laahi (Sifir) ayaa maanta isku feeray xarunta Baarlamaanka ee Magaalada baydhabo kadib markii ay lakala safteen Xukuumada raisalwasaare Geedi iyo Xildhibaanadii Mooshinka soo bandhigay.

 

 

Wararka laga helayo Baydhabo ayaa sheegaya in labada xildhibaan ay isku dheceen kadib markii uu dhexmaray muran la xiriira guusha raisalwasaaraha oo uu taageersanaa Xildh.Xuseen Caraale iyo guuldarada Xildhibaanadii Mooshinka keenayoo uu taageersanaa Xildh.Maxamuud C/laahi Sifir kaasoo markii danbe isu bedelay iney gacanta isula tagaan inkastoo ay badbaadiyeen Booliska Xukuumada.

 

 

Wasiirka waxbarashada Dr Cali C/laahi Cosoble ayaa sheegay iney kala badbaadiyeen labada mudane si aaney arintu faraha uga bixin lana xalin doono qilaafaadkooda maadaama ay dhamaatay wixii laysku qabsaday.

 

 

Xildhibaan C/laahi Geedi Shadoor ayaa isna sheegay iney jirto wax ay xildhibaanadu ka caroodeen oo uu ku sheegay iney jirto laaluush lakala qaatay isagoo umuuqday inaanu ku qanacsaneyn Natiijada ay Maanta udhacday codkii kalsoonida ee loo qaaday xukuumada Raisalwasaaraha.

 

 

Bishii Maarso ee sanadkii 2005 ayey aheyd markii ay is farasaareen Mudanayaasha Baarlamaanka oo xiligaa ku shirsanaa Magaalada nairobi iyagoo ka doodayey Keenis Ciidamo shisheeye oo markii danbe ay Magaalada Baydhabo ku ogolaadeen.

 

Cabdilaahi Hilowle

Idamaale News,Muqdisho

[NGONGE]

Him and his president missed a trick or two, saaxib. That’s what you get when you don’t follow the trends I suppose. Still, all is not lost. President Yusuf and the Prime Minster can still salvage something out of this mess by working on their image and presentation. They need some spin-doctors first.

 

To start with, they both have to avoid the limelight for a month or two. They need to issue statements through their spokespersons or even the spokesman of the parliament (there is a reason for this).

 

These speeches should be littered with kind soothing words and full of affected religious speak. After a time, they need to return and give their first press conference outside a mosque after Friday prayers. The speech has to be a long one and should include as many affected Islamic phrases as possible. It should not include any political statements or outline any future plan of action (politically, economically or regionally). It should be a lecture of sorts and should ‘appear’ to be spontaneous and off-the-cuff. They should talk about their heart-felt pain for their Somali brethren and their bleeding nation. They should propose to have peace talks with their wayward opponents and emphasise that the time of the gun is over. They should also gather as many bearded people as possible and show (in the most subtle way) that they and their supporters too can don this latest and must have attire. They should use their international connections to coerce Saudi Arabia and Egypt (with the Azhar mullahs) to endorse this new transformation.

 

In no time at all, the government will be on the ascendancy and can claim (as is expected) that the Mullah’s in the capital are refusing to fall into line behind the pious Geedi and the devout Yusuf. The fickle populace, who were chasing scraps and looking for reasons to reject the Islamic Courts will lap it all up and strongly condemn these self-styled Mullahs of the capital. Voila! The most honourable Geedi and spiritual Yusuf will again have the upper hand.

[Abu-Salman]

Frankly, as opposed to warlords-elected, warlord-"president" Yusuf, Pr Geedi was perceived as the only with an ounce of credibility when the Addis-sponsored "government" was negociated through bribery and Kenya's "generous assistance".

 

Nonetheless, openly flirting with the Tigre gang in Addis-abeba, welcoming defeated warlords who constitute the backbone of his administration (war criminals as security chief or key minsters, what a joke indeed) as well as tergiversing about Range issue, thus revealing the true nature of Puntland administration-"president" links has utterly destroyed any remaining credibility (interestingly enough, Geedi was declared persona non grata there...and el presidented welcomed with the red carpet).

 

But then again, who can trust secular politicians solely motivated by their lust for power at all cost, irrespective of any principle?

 

 

PS: Ngonge, I've the feeling that you consider Islam here as a politic tool rather than a supreme philosophie, englobing every sphere of our existence.

Do you really believe that it's purely destined to manipulate "naive populace" and certainely not to rule "enlightened intellectual" like you as well?

[AYOUB]

Ngonge

Maybe they haven't miss no trick and the aim of the game was (as the other "transitional governments" before them,)to collect as much money from as many sources as possible while it lasts.

[NGONGE]

Originally posted by Djib-Somali:

 

 

PS: Ngonge, I've the feeling that you consider Islam here as a politic tool rather than a supreme philosophie, englobing every sphere of our existence.

Do you really believe that it's purely destined to manipulate "naive populace" and certainely not to rule "enlightened intellectual" like you as well?

Heh. I'm an 'enlightened intellectual'!

Still, when you say ‘Islam’, are you talking about the faith or the specific situation in Somalia?

 

I shall not expound on Islam the faith; it will suffice (I presume) to say that I am a follower of said faith.

 

Now the quagmire of Somali politics is a different issue altogether. After sixteen years of ups and downs I’m sure you’ll forgive my cynicism and cynical stance when it comes to the Islamic Courts. With them, I take the exact same position as I take my home region of Somaliland: Show me satisfactory results and I’ll happily wave the flag. Though in the case of the Mullahs the results will really have to be satisfactory and their conduct whiter than white. Nonetheless, and even though mind compels me to view them with suspicion, my heart roots for them.

[AYOUB]

Originally posted by Oodweyne:

What that means, is that their two years of a charade that was intended to bamboozle the rest of the world into thinking that they are a government, which eventually will go to Mogadishu is almost over, and everyone can see that they have never had the intention of even coming close of ruling Somalia from it’s constitutional capital; but all along they genuinely thought that this TFG, was a means to milk the gullible westerners, particularly the European Union(EU); by way of saying keep supporting us and one day of not-that-too-distant into the future we will land in Mogadishu; but not yet, and in the mean-time, we just keep moving from one provincial city to another, as our temporary capital; provided you lot in the western world do not stop the rent money coming into our coffers.

Spot on.

 

Two years in Nairobi before this version of "transitional government" was formed and another two years after; the talk of Khartoum Peace Process started. We've only seen the Peace Process tour of handful of countries, i'm sure fans in other African and Middle Eastern countries cant wait for show to hit their nearest warehouse. Soon, Somali kids will want to be "Peace Process Delegates" when they grow up. And why not,some people are having wonderful careers of being PPDs.

[General Duke]

Its called democracy mate, they can fight, puch and disagree.

 

But let me tell the secesionists a few things.

Alhamdulilah the warlords are finished, the only sympathiser to the secesionist was Bashir Raage, but now he is gone.

 

Mogadishu is as safe as it ever been. Puntland is getting stronger. Baidoa and Mogadishu are holding talks..

 

Dear lads keep talking. The arguments of the secesionist is making less, today there are no warlords in the south, , Mogadishu is resurecting itself. There is no major civil war.

[Wiilo]

Wasiirka Arimaha Dibada Ethiopia oo isu keenay madaxda sare ee Dowlada Federaalka Soomaaliya

 

Wafdi balaaraan uu hogaaminayo Wasiirka Arimaha dibada Siyuum Masfin ayaa kasoo degay garoonka diyaaradaha ee magaalada Baydhabo abaarihii 10:00kii barqanimo halkaasoo ay ku sugan yihiin dowlada federaalka oo baryahanba xaalkoodu xumaa soona kala dhex galay qilaaf weyn oo sababay in wasiiro badan ay iska casilaan jagooyinkooda halka qaar ka tirsan gudiyada baarlamaanka iyana jagooyinkooda ay ka tageen iyagoo eedeeymo usoo jeediyey Ra'iisul Wasaaraha iyo Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka.

 

Mr. Siyuum Masfin ayaa durba waxa uu kulan albaabada u xeran yahay la qaatay Madaxweyne Cabdulaahi Yuusuf iyo Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka Md. Shariif Xasan, ka dib waxa uu usoo gudbay dhanka iyo Ra'iisul Wasaaraha iyadoo ay halkaasi kulan kale ay isla qaateen isla markaana isla qadeeyeen.

 

Kulamada Wasiirka uu la qaatey mudanayaasha madaxda sare ee dowlada Federaalka ayaa waxa uu ku guuleystay inuu kulansiiyo iyadoo uu kulanka uu ka dhacayo xarunta madaxtooyada iyadoo aanan loo kala kicin tan iyo saaka markay kasoo dageen garoonka diyaaradaha ee magaalada Baydhabo.

 

Madaxda iyo Wasiirka dibada ee Ethiopia ayaa kulankooda waxa lagu wadaa inuu caawa noqdo mid ay isku daahaan waayo madaxda sare ayaa waxa ay isku haystaan qodobo muhiim u ah labada dhinac, oo dhinac walba uu gar isla leeyahay.

 

Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaanka iyo Madaxweyne Cabdulaahi yuusuf ayaa waxay qabaan in shirka Khartuim la wada aado halka Prof. Geedina uu qabo in xukuumada ay utaalo oo uusan baarlamaan shaqo kulahayn sida uu qabo Axdiga kmg ee dowlada Federaalka kmg ee Soomaaliya.

 

Prof. Geedi oo dhawaan ka hadlay arrimaha laysku haaysto ayaa sheegay inuu diyaar u yahay waxkastoo tanaasulaad ah oo dan u ah Shacabka soomaaliyeed isagoo ku nuux nuuxsaday in la kulanka Maxaakiimta uu diyaar u yahay, halka Gudoomiyaha Baarlamaankana uu rabay inuu doraad baxo balse uu waayey diyaarad uu ku baxo iyo isagoo aan ka war helin inuu shirka baaqday.

 

Imaanshiyaha Wasiirka Arrimaha Dibadda Siyuum Masfin ayaa kusoo beegantay xili xalay lagu dhawaaqay wasiiro cusub oo badali doona qaar iska casilay, kuwo dhintay, iyo kuwo xilka laga xayuubiyey, iyadoo aanan la ogayn inuu aqbali doono iyo inkale Madaxweyne Cabdulaahi Yusuf Axmed.

 

Shirka oo ilaa caawa laysla fadhiyo ayaanu wax natiijo rasmi ah kasoo bixin waxaana idiin balan qaadaynaa inaan idiin soo gudbin doono waxii warar ah ee kasoo baxa.

 

 

http://www.somaliweyn.com/pages/news/Agos_06/05August40.html

 

 

 

Maxamed Cabdulle Xasan (SIIDI)

siidmohamed@hotmail.com

siidi@somaliweyn.com

Somaliweyn Media Center

 

 

Waxaad fiirisaan sida Geedi ugu farxsanyahay inuu arko saaxiibadiis ee u yimid inay howlshii ay u soo dhistaayn dowladda ay u hirgasho, ayaga oo ka ilaalinaya in ay isqilaafaan, waxaase is waydiin mudan goormuu Sheikh Sharif sheikh Aden ku biiray agent-tiyada xabashida? Waan ognahay kuwa xabashida u shaqeeyee, asma goormuu ku biiray? Cajaa'ib,,,,,