Unfound accusations against Col. Barre Hiiraale

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Nomads, private messages haven't been working properly for a couple of weeks since after that infamous server migration. We've had the pm issues fixed this morning but a couple of threads/avatar data disappeared as a result of us making few changes.

 

Nothing is sinister here. I am sure Garaad Baashi will repost his message hadii Ilaahay idmo.

[Allamagan]

^^^ thank bro for this great service!

[Gabbal]

Libaax aniguna waxaan islahaa, tallaw Libaax ma Sheikh Alle-Ubaahne iyo shabaabkiisaa soo gaaray?

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

This is what Baashi said.

 

Muraad walee wa rageedii. Awoowe Kismaayo waa beled Somaaliyeed oo aan lakala xigin. Dagaalkii ahliga ee la is cunay baa Somali xaafado kala yeelatay. Benadir, Hargeysa, Bossasso, Bardhere, Beydhabo qoloba meeshii ay ku badnayd bay tiri annagaa leh. Siyad Barre, Morgan, Hiiraale, Inna Jees isku beel bay noqdeen magaaladana hayb bay ku yimaadeen.

 

Awoowe sidii Benadir heybtii u hartay ay u sarifmeen ilaa senti taano yaa haybtii Kismaayo isugu timidna u sarifantay. Siyaad Barre iyo xigtadiisii Gedo yay qabteen urrurna waa samaysteen SNF. Morgan, Jamac Buluug iyo Jees waxay ku bahoobeen SPM. Jees waa la yara gacan bidixeeyay oo waa assagii caraddii Xamar u caraabay oo yiri walee ama "cadkanow ku cunay ama ku cideeyey"

 

Ceydiid iyo Caato yuu shuraako la noqday ilaa ay aakhirkii gacanta ku dhigeen baladka laba jeer. Morgan waa assaga tola'ydii Baardheere isa sii taagay oo xiddidkii yirri belledka waa marso cidina idin kama xigto ee kaalaya ila soo dhiciya.

 

Wiil hooga Barre Hiiraale wiilal labaatan jirro ah oo qoortu intaa dherer le'egtahay buu soo xareeyay la'aantiina Kismaayo heybta Morgan ka dhashay kuma dhaceen inay soo celiyaan.

 

Markuu u huray naf iyo maalba baa mu'aamarad lagu soo maloogay Nairobi lagu bahdilay. Haba la bah dilo ee bariiskii iyo xoogaagii Morgan u qoray baa lagu qabsaday. Ilaa maalintii danbe layn iyo in magaalka laga saaro la isugu daro. Jammaame iyo Kamsuuma dhexdooda yaa kaneecadu ku cuntay Gedona waa qaban waayey oo roobab lixaad leh baa si ba'an u day berrigaa. Dantu waa seetee nimankii belada ahaa baa dani baday.

 

Xaalkii saa ku bilowday waxuu gaarsiiyay inuu issagu jifo ahaan uba sheegto. Adduun galinba waa ceynee raggii ay shuraakada ahaayeen rag xaga haybta ay isku raaceen laakiin mabda'u kala duway baa aayar inta hoos ula hadlay yirri war iska wareejiya magaalka inta aynaan isku dhiman. Ku gal casar buu waxuu arkay issagoo cidla taagan tuugaddii ay wada socdeene waxay ku yiraahdeen waxay joogtaa in la isku baaba'o iyo in aan wadaadaa kala badbaadno.

 

Magaalada Kismaayo ah dadka heyb ahaan u dega ee u badan waa dad madani ah. Wiilashoodu Sweden iyo States siday ku tagi lahaayeen bay qaxootiga ku galeen mana difaaci karaan beledka umana maqna. Dadkii hayb ahaan u xigay ee difaaci lahaana wax bah uma ogola oo markay soo dhiciyaan oo soo xeri galiyaan oo wiilashooda ku waayaan bay waxa oranayaan kaligay baa leh. Maalin reer Benadir baa cadaw ah maalinka xigta reer Afmadow baa cadaw ah maalinka xigta wiil Cabudwaaq ka yimid baa sheeganaya shalay kii ku haysta baa taageeraya oo walaalkii ku dilaya misan barteedii bay ku laabanaysaa oo kii la cayriyay kii wax cayriyay baa gacal noqonaya oo kii u hiiliya rubada jaraya! Kitaabkee bay haystaan horta???????????????????

 

Horta nimanku waa niman saa u midabeeya oo mabda' iyo diin ay leeyihiin aanay jirin. Maanta Morgan waxuu magan u yahay Abdiqasim. Ceydiid Jr.-na reer baydhabo . Adduunyo! Ina Qebdiidkii sidii la ogaa ehelka Inna Yussuf u gowracay maalin cad baa maanta waxa reer Galkacyood isku fara saari gaareen martigalintiisa . Inna Yussufkii Morgan ku eedeynayay reer xididkiis buu beledkayagii soo dajiyay baa maanta abur afka ka sii daynaya oo leh see Barre Hiiraale loo dhugtay oo Kismayo loogu qabsaday . Horta see nimankan hormuud ku noqdeen oo talada u hanteen?

 

Raali ahaada waan ku dheeraadaye. Waxad ogaataan wax mabda' iyo diin leh oo meel loogu soo hagaaga leh waxa jira maanta Maxkamadaha. Waa niman curdan ah oo wali ma qaan gaarin. Cilado badan oo xal loo heli karana waa leeyihiin, ee waxad yeeshaan taageera mabda'a ay sheeganayaan ee ay ku soo dagaal galeen. Shaqsiyaadka muuqda ha taageerinee waxad taagertaan mabda'. Haddii ay ka dhabeyn waayaan hadde markaa waa arrin kale. Laakiin so far nimanku waa quman yihiin haddan lagu nacayn haybta ay Somali ka yihiin.

 

Waqtigu waa qaliil laakiin waxan jeclaan lahaa ragga diidan Maxkamadaha inaan weydiiyo laba su'aalood oo qura ah:

 

1. Maxaa TFG-da baday in ay Inna Qebdiid, Ina Ceydiid, Barre Hiiraale, Qanyare, Dheere iyo waxii Ilaahay nacay ay gacal ka dhigtaan? nimankan ogolna (ee yirri waan aqoonsanaynaa ee Xamar ku martigaliyay oo kaliya dalbaday shareecada oo la isku xukumo iyo Amaxaarka oo laga maarmo) ula coloobeen? Hayb ahaan waa niman siman! Mabda'a ahaan waa niman aan isku dhawayn! Halkee wax iska qaban la'yihiin?

 

2. TFG-da iyo Tigrey ma qaranimada Somali ka maqan soo celinteeda bay ciidanka ajnabi iyo saanadiisa u dalbanayaan mise macne kale oo innaga dahsoon baa jira?

[Gabbal]

1. Maxaa TFG-da baday in ay Inna Qebdiid, Ina Ceydiid, Barre Hiiraale, Qanyare, Dheere iyo waxii Ilaahay nacay ay gacal ka dhigtaan?

Haa! Ninkaa maxaa ku kaliftay kooxo Islaam-la-dirirka inuu Barre ku daro? :mad: Niyadiisa oo jecel maahe, maxaa kale? :mad:

 

Markuu u huray naf iyo maalba baa mu'aamarad lagu soo maloogay Nairobi lagu bahdilay. Haba la bah dilo ee bariiskii iyo xoogaagii Morgan u qoray baa lagu qabsaday. Ilaa maalintii danbe layn iyo in magaalka laga saaro la isugu daro.

Mar dambena yaan la arkin Sheikh Xiin oo afka ku taagayo halgankii Barre!

[Libaax-Sankataabte]

Originally posted by Allamagan:

^^^ thank bro for this great service!

Thank You yaa sheekh Allamagan.

 

 

Horn, lol@Shabaab. AlleUbaahne iyo inta ku wareegsanba garka iyo goofkaa cadaaday ee Shabaabnimo ka dheer. Waa xawd.

[Khalaf]

Originally posted by Suleyman:

 

The purpose of this thread was to address those who dishonestly or in ignorance vilify the character of another Muslim brother but yet do not have the slightest idea that Col. Barre Hiiraale is taking their hasanaat while they continue to spew these calumnious words. Know that it is the duty of a Muslim to defend his brother and warn his other brothers who are carrying out these acts or do some of you not consider Col. Barre Hiiraale as a Muslim? If I did not create this topic out of love for you as my brothers and my obligation to defend my brothers, your sayi`aat would have increased unknowingly.

I am confused ninyahow, please explain to me why you are being selective here? If you are for justice as Muslim then shouldnt you make your apeal a general warning....ppl here talk about "leaders" rightfully or wrongfully not just Hiraale...arent the other "leaders" also Muslim brothers :confused: And you use the Quran and Hadith, ya Allah. Just admit ninyahow Barre is close to you in relation dont bring the Quran and Hadith in to this.

[Allamagan]

^^^cool down brother, why confuse, Br. Suleymaan gave his sincere naseexa to everyone who ignorantly bashing this great man, so it is up to you if you wanna take it or leave it. Or otherweis go ahaed and join the camp O-ray and do Barre a favour if you know what am mean. It is people like you he is giving naseeha, who wrongfully call other muslims secularists. Is fiiri adiga marka hore walaal deedna isasax, kadibna walaalahaa kale waani.

[Khalaf]

Originally posted by Allamagan:

^^^cool down brother, why confuse, Br. Suleymaan gave his sincere naseexa to everyone who ignorantly bashing this great man, so it is up to you if you wanna take it or leave it. Or otherweis go ahaed and join

the camp O-ray

and do Barre a favour if you know what am mean. It is people like you he is giving naseeha,

who wrongfully call other muslims secularists.

Is fiiri adiga marka hore walaal deedna isasax, kadibna walaalahaa kale waani.

1St brother I have difficulty reading af somali, inshallah getting better though. 2nd what on the bold? :confused:

 

brother is not giving me naseeha (adivce)...because I dont need it since i never talked about anyone, but i do find this hypcritical because a Muslim is for justice and should extend that courtesy to all not be selective, and that is why I asked our brother. So you calm down and let him answer.

[Allamagan]

^^ brother, were you not the guy who were not long ago refering ppl opposing UICs as bunch of secularists? thats what am talking about here.

[Khalaf]

I dont remember ninyahow to be exact.

 

I dont think I refered to ppl as securarists or members here....but from my observations at least among somalis I know, my reer adeer iyo reer abti (Barre's clan), I do believe many oppose the ICU for qabil reasons.....thats what I hear: THey (insert clan) change shirts acting religious. Walaahi its like they cant put in their heads that these men could be sincere.

 

But the wadaads of my reer adeer iyo reer abti support the courts, and so far I think they are the best men, but Allah Knows Best.

 

^^^I think thats what i may have said. peace to you brother.

[Allamagan]

^^^Sorry brother and forgive me. I mistaken you with this guy, Kashafa (see at the bottom)

 

And peace to you brother too. May allah guide us all into the right path.

[Haashim]

Raali ahaada waan ku dheeraadaye. Waxad ogaataan wax mabda' iyo diin leh oo meel loogu soo hagaaga leh waxa jira maanta Maxkamadaha. Waa niman curdan ah oo wali ma qaan gaarin. Cilado badan oo xal loo heli karana waa leeyihiin, ee waxad yeeshaan taageera mabda'a ay sheeganayaan ee ay ku soo dagaal galeen. Shaqsiyaadka muuqda ha taageerinee waxad taagertaan mabda'. Haddii ay ka dhabeyn waayaan hadde markaa waa arrin kale. Laakiin so far nimanku waa quman yihiin haddan lagu nacayn haybta ay Somali ka yihiin.

Baashi Ugaas Ishaad ka ridday :cool:

 

 

Ma maantaan Warlordism ku noqon karnaa

 

Midda kale Ninyahow Kismayop waa inaan tagaa, Walgey ma tegin horta, laakiin waa inaan tagaa waayo waxa macaan oo looga samri waayay waa inaan soo arkaa.

[Cumar]

Originally posted by Mr. Red Sea:

^so what exactly is your point?

 

I understand things in bold, so list all your wishes for me buddy and leave the verses of the Quran and Hadith which you are using to advace your hidden agenda out of it.

 

If the ICU praises col.Hiiraale,then why are they fighting amongst each other? can you answer that for me respectably?

 

Thanks Akhi.

Mr. Red Sea

 

I have directed substantial points at you and all you seem to be doing is hurling back irrelevant questions at me. Clearly such evasive and fallacious tactic is employed by many who will not sufficiently answer the points in question in order to delude themselves that their argument holds water. It is in fact confirmed with the accusation that you have brought forth claiming that I have a "hidden agenda" because I have quoted the glorious qur'an and the narrations of our Nabi. Can you even point out the discrepancies of my points vis-à-vis with the sources of the Qur’an that I have quoted. Tell me, is taboo to mention the sources of the Deen in the political section?

 

Mr. Red Sea, read carefully my previous posts and provide adequate responses so that this discussion can be elevated to a reasonably productive and fruitful level, insha'Allah, otherwise you're wasting my time and yours walaal.

 

Salamu Calaykum

 

 

Originally posted by Khalaf:

quote:Originally posted by Suleyman:

 

The purpose of this thread was to address those who dishonestly or in ignorance vilify the character of another Muslim brother but yet do not have the slightest idea that Col. Barre Hiiraale is taking their hasanaat while they continue to spew these calumnious words. Know that it is the duty of a Muslim to defend his brother and warn his other brothers who are carrying out these acts or do some of you not consider Col. Barre Hiiraale as a Muslim? If I did not create this topic out of love for you as my brothers and my obligation to defend my brothers, your sayi`aat would have increased unknowingly.

I am confused ninyahow, please explain to me why you are being selective here? If you are for justice as Muslim then shouldnt you make your apeal a general warning....ppl here talk about "leaders" rightfully or wrongfully not just Hiraale...arent the other "leaders" also Muslim brothers :confused: And you use the Quran and Hadith, ya Allah. Just admit ninyahow Barre is close to you in relation dont bring the Quran and Hadith in to this.

Salamu Calaykum Khalaf

 

What is with the lack of compression in reading simple and straightforward posts. Walaalow, the aim of the post has nothing to do with selectiveness of leaders rather it is a post that details a refutal of myths and incorrect perceptions that is re-iterated numerously on the forum. If the Maxaakiimta praise Mudane Barre Hiiraale then what is with the continuous and repeated slander against this man on the forums by the overzealous ICU supporters or do they claim that the ICU are also guilty of favouritism I mean, doesn’t this prove that their hatred of Col. Barre Hiiraale is based on tribalism and other un-Islamic reasons.

 

Please do not play the qabiil card with me akhi as your frivolous accusation will simply backfire. Yes, Col. Barre Hiiraale is a relative of mine; however, I have close ties with at least two tribes in the ICU. Never ever have I resorted to qabyaalad so please save your accusations of favouritism in the future. Is blood ties an automatic obstruction of speaking the haqq when someone is wronged? Your accusation would have been justified if I had made an unwarranted post displaying blatant partiality to the man which I did not.

 

Walaalyaalow stop introducing red-herrings in to the discussion and either respond to my points which is the position of the ICU or do not respond at all if your intention is to be evasive and find ways to divert the topic of the thread.

 

Salamu Calaykum

[Khalaf]

^^ ok brother. fair enough.

 

w.salaamu lah.