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Barack Obama is a phenomenon...he is through to the final

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Baashi, At this stage of the election, as far as pledged delegates go, the proportional system will prevent both to overtake the delegate count, no? All Obama needs to do, I thought, was to win enough margins in the remaining states to seduce super delegates.

 

Tii ina Keenadiid kama fog:

 

Laandheere gob ahaan jiroo gocoshadiis hayso iyo kii ka gaabnaan jiroo haatan garab jooga….

 

R. Clinton waa lahayyaa…

 

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LSK, I hear you! But if that turns out what puts Clinton on top I am afraid the party will pay a hefty price…

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Xiin, Libaax is on the money. Obama is in big trouble. I don't know the extent of it but it became clear to me last night. Even his friends in MSNBC (Fox type of Dems) hinted about it. Last night Larry King panel had this David Forum guy, a Neocon Bush type and he was all smile extremely confident repeating himself about Obama's chances to win against Clinton being nill.

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Baashi, DNC party elders (superdelegates) will not let Obama proceed to the general election with a "homo-sexual-and-drugs" accusations following him however far-fetched it may seem. It is part of the Clinton dirty campaign. Hillary will use this "scandal" argument to convince the superdelegates even if Obama has more pledged delegates come convention day. The superdelegates will "wisely" give their votes to Hillary in order to save the general election (beat McCain).

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This election is anomaly, protest against the establishment on both sides of the aisle. I wouldn't count anyone out, but I do think Obama will carry Wisconsan tonight, of course that means little in terms of delegates.

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LSK & Baashi don't you think that Obama can weather this false accusation percisely because he is above politics and he has become a movement. Don't discount the message of Obama that people are unhappy with the status quo, the dirty poltics and partisan politcs and want change.

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Stright nine states victory for Obama

 

LSK, what I am more worried about is his wifes gaff, regarding she has never been proud of America untill now? :mad:

 

Now the next two weeks will be telling, Clinton if it continues this way will lose both Ohio, and Texas..

 

The republicans will fight dirty, but they are up against the new generation of Americans who have never voted, who took drugs, who have black friends and who want to see a different America to the one they have lived in

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Wisconsin Hands Obama a Victory, the Ninth in a Row

 

By PATRICK HEALY and JEFF ZELENY

Published: February 20, 2008

Senator Barack Obama decisively beat Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton in the Wisconsin primary on Tuesday night, accelerating his momentum ahead of crucial primaries in Ohio and Texas and cutting into Mrs. Clinton’s support among women and union members.

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Guardian.co.uk............

 

Barack Obama streaked past Hillary Clinton's fading campaign to his ninth straight victory in the Wisconsin primary last night, widening his lead in the race for the Democratic nomination.

 

With nearly all of the precincts reporting, Obama had 57% of the vote against 42% for Clinton. He broke into the ranks of her most loyal supporters -- working class voters and white women -- and challenged her on the core issue of the economy.

 

Obama's victory in Wisconsin sends Obama into the next set of contests in the mega states of Texas and Ohio on March 4 with an extra burst of momentum. He also extended his lead in delegates by capturing a majority of the 92 delegates at stake in Wisconsin.

 

That makes it imperative for Clinton to win big victories in both Texas and Ohio if she is to have any hope of a comeback. But Obama's ability to connect with low income voters on the economy -- now the main issue of the Democratic contest -- makes that an even more formidable challenge.

 

As the results came in, Clinton was already beginning to look like an afterthought to a much anticipated match-up between Obama and John McCain in the presidential election next November. The two men used their speeches tonight to take shots at one another.

 

Clinton's campaign was braced for further bad news overnight when results come in from the caucus in Hawaii, the state where Obama was born and raised.

 

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Another televised debate is on the offing. Talking heads and TV pundits are saying Hillary usually out performs her rival in that sort of setting.

 

Obama vs. Clinton

Thursday Feb 21st, 2008

8:00 PM EST

On CNN

 

Obama has won ten straight states with significant margins. Women, white, black, up and down income ladder, blue color, whilte color, rural, urban.

 

The brother is on a roll....

 

Yippy yee

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^I doubt that. H. Clinton pligiarizes his words

 

Can Obama be Stopped

 

After 10 consecutive defeats — including a heartbreaker in tailor-made Wisconsin on Tuesday — Hillary Rodham Clinton can't win the nomination unless Obama makes a major mistake or her allies reveal something damaging about the Illinois senator's background. Don't count her out quite yet, but Wisconsin revealed deep and destructive fractures in the Clinton coalition.

 

It's panic-button time.

 

That explains why Clinton's aides accused Obama of plagiarism for delivering a speech that included words that had first been uttered by Deval Patrick, the Massachusetts governor and a friend of Obama. The charge bordered on the hypocritical — Clinton herself has borrowed Obama's lines — and by itself was unlikely to have an impact on the race.

 

Clinton claimed Tuesday that reporters, not her campaign, pushed the plagiarism story line. That is not true.

 

The Clinton camp hopes to produce other instances of rhetorical theft and show a pattern of bad behavior. The danger for Obama is anything that undercuts his image as a candidate who rises above politics. Something like this might work to Clinton's advantage: Obama is backtracking on a pledge to abide by spending caps in the general election, and his explanation is bogus.

 

Obama is undeniably raw. Less than four years removed from the Illinois Legislature, he stands at the brink of the Democratic nomination and will soon go one-on-one in debates with a tough and savvy former first lady. The odds of a misstep are low but not impossible for these reasons: Clinton will grow increasingly negative; Obama faces more scrutiny as the new front-runner; his performance in multi-candidates debates was uneven; and the charmed Illinois senator has never faced political crises.

 

Should Obama stumble in the next two weeks, does he know how to recover?

 

Clinton certainly knows how to bounce back. She helped her husband, Bill, recover from near-death experiences during his White House run and rebounded herself after a thumping in Iowa.

 

But her rival has won the most states, earned the most pledged delegates and has all the momentum. Clinton needs to win Ohio and Texas on March 4 — then Pennsylvania in April — to narrow Obama's lead among pledged delegates. Only then could she argue with a straight face that a majority of the nearly 800 free-roaming "superdelegates" should back her over Obama.

 

"Both Senator Obama and I would make history," the former first lady told supporters Tuesday night. "But only one of us is ready on Day One to be commander in chief, ready to manage our economy and ready to defeat the Republicans. Only one of us has spent 35 years being a doer, a fighter and a champion for those who need a voice."

 

Only one of them can win, and it doesn't look good for her.

 

"The chances of Obama doing something that's going to cause a major problem are about as low as her doing something that will turn it around," said Democratic strategist Bill Carrick, who is not tied to either campaign. "When you start pressing to come back, it's usually the person who's behind who makes the mistake."

 

Ignore the Clinton advisers who argue that Wisconsin was just a bump on the road en route to the tell-all March 4 primaries. Listen instead to the message sent by her ragged coalition:

 

Obama led among whites (widely among white men), moderates and those earning less than $50,000, all bastions of Clinton's past strength. Obama and Clinton split the vote among women, erasing her one-time advantage.

 

Demographically, Wisconsin was a warm-up for Ohio: nearly 90 percent of Tuesday's voters were white; about 40 percent earn less than $50,000 annually; nearly 60 percent have no college degree; and half are over 50 years old — all demographics that have tended to favor Clinton.

 

In a sign of desperation, the Clinton camp floated the idea of poaching delegates that Obama earned via elections. While allowable under Democratic National Committee rules, the tactic would likely divide Democrats along racial lines and set the party back decades.

 

It would be the ultimate act of selfishness and foolishness. Even Clinton must realize there is little she can do to win the nomination. She can only help Obama lose it.

 

AP

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