me Posted July 10, 2006 Source: Liberty For the Muslim World Date: Thu, 12 Dec 1996 15:54:57 +0000 Email: info@liberty.netkonect.co.uk Title: Liberty: Somalia Report: From Pres Mohamed Ibrahim Egal to PM Rabin TEXT: Liberty For the Muslim World, Postal Address: BM Freedom, London WC1N 3XX, U.K. Tel: 0181-4526210 Fax: 0181-4502019 Mob: 0468298219 Text of the letter sent by fax to former Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin by President of the Republic of Somaliland Mohamed Ibrahim Egal. Republic of Somaliland The Presidency Our Ref: SLR/PO/ISPMI/7/95 Your Ref: ....................... 3 July 1995 Hargeisa His Excellency The Prime Minister of Israel Mr Yitshak Rabin Hakirya, Fax No. 972 2 513 950 Jerusalem, Israel. Your Excellency Establishing Strategic Partnership with the State of Israel In my capacity as the President of the Republic of Somaliland, an admirer of the state of Israel and the courage of its people, please accept my compliments and my people's profound felicitations to you, your Government, President and the people of Israel for their tenacity, strength and resourcefulness which had finally constrained its adversaries to make peace with the State of Israel. I have the honour of representing the people of Somaliland and its nascent state in this opportunity for seeking to establish amiable and strategic links with the State of Israel. It is important to note that our two nations have had strong links since time immemorial. Indicative of such historical links, stretching well before the advent of Islam to this date, is the influence of the Hebrew culture in Somaliland and how Jewish legends and their mystical powers are widely acknowledged and homage paid to them. In addition, the people of Somaliland are appreciative as they have an indelible memory of the fact that Israel was among the first three countries who recognised Somaliland after it declared its independence from Britain on 26th June 1960, alas, that independence lasted no more than four days as Somaliland entered into a voluntary union with the UN Trust Territory of Somalia on 1st July 1960, in the hope of creating Greater Somalia. Exactly, thirty five years later, the dreams of Greater Somalia are discredited and disavowed. It was under the union with Somalia that Somaliland found itself a pathetic captive within a ruthless, destructive and hostile state. Indeed, it was this union whose culmination was the tyrannous and repressive regime of the late Siyad Barre which brought about the enormous suffering, starvation and destruction in which the world had witnessed and came to notice, too well, during the past five years or so. The people of Somaliland have renounced such a union in May 1991 and reclaimed their independent sovereign entity, and nothing will make them reverse the decision to extricate themselves from the captivity of Somalia. The vice-president and the Foreign Minister of Somaliland have, recently, paid an official visit to Eritrea and while there met H.E. Ariel Kerem, the Ambassador of Israel in Eritrea, who furnished them with valuable advice and suggested that I, the President of Somaliland, should write to your Excellency, as the Prime Minister of Israel, in person, informing you about Somaliland's eagerness to establish an ex parte relationship based on strategic partnership with the State of Israel and sharing with you about my government's concerns and fears vis-a-vis the alarming menace emanating from the expansion of Islamic influence in our strategic region. As I am sure you are aware, at the height of the cold war Somalia's strategic geographical location was acknowledged by both sides (East/West). Today, however, although the West had won the cold war and the threat of communism appears to be vanishing in many parts of the world, we, in the Horn of Africa, are being threatened by a more sinister and pernicious enemy in the form of encroaching Islamic influence. It would be true to say that the State of Israel and its people are, perhaps, more aware and alert of such threats than most other countries, and know how perilous and pestilential the spread of Islamic influence would mean for the entire region. The political upheavals which have been taking place in the Horn of Africa and the lack of stability in the region could be aggravated further if the influence of Islamic Fundamentalism is not curtailed or contained very soon. Somaliland's concern is reinforced by the growing influence of the Saudis and the pro-Islamic Yemen, particularly ever since it had crushed and defeated the South Yemeni's courageous attempt to forsake or renounce its union with the north. Discovering that Eritrea is not interested [in] to act as an Arab satellite, both Sana' and Riyadh, as well as Khartoum (not to mention how pariah states like Iran and Libya are meddling into the internal affairs of my country), are now directing their efforts to force Somaliland to forfeit or withdraw its independence with the intention of installing a pro-Islamic Somali state (under a federal Somalia). This will most definitely render the control of both the north and southern coasts of the Red Sea to pro-Islamic regimes, with the exception of Eritrea and the miniature state of Djibouti which has no significance leaving the whole region to become a bed-rock for Islamic influence. Your Excellency, my government firmly believes that owing to this region's strategic geopolitical importance as a result of its propinquity to the oil routes and the narrow Babul-Mendeb entrance, as well as its proximity to the Gulf, the Middle East and the access to the Indian Ocean, it will be highly deleterious if such a strategic region falls almost entirely under the dominion of pro-Islamic regimes. Needless to say that this should be a portentous eventuality which will in turn adversely affect the national security of the State of Israel, and that of other countries in the Horn of Africa who are trying to recover from years, if not decades, of both man-made and natural disasters i.e. civil wars, military coups, draughts and famines, etc. In addition, since countries in the region are not politically stable the encroachment of Islamic influence will most certainly have a destabilising effect. For instance, in Ethiopia with its various nationalities and particularly with its large Muslim population, the expansion of pro-Islamists in the region would act as a tinder-box with the potential to enflame the entire region. Although the people of Somaliland are over 98% Muslims, they are, nevertheless, averse to adopt an antiquated Islamic Sharia Law as their way of living and governance. In contrast my government intends to make Somaliland a beacon of democracy and oasis for stability in this region of upheavals and turmoil. But this is unlikely to happen in the present climate, as we are ranged against by strong and powerful Islamic proxies whose primary aim is to put out such an illume of hope. A foretaste of what will happen if dark forces of Islamists will succeed in their pursuit of bringing in a passé or an out-moded system, could be seen in Mogadishu today, where a de facto administration from a coalition of Islamic proxies and minority tribal groups headed by not so long ago UN/International fugitive warlord General Aideed, where Islamic surrogates have been infringing people's human rights with impunity; people are being stoned to death for committing no crime other than fornication; and limbs are being chopped off for petty crimes such as mugging and burglary in a barbaric inhuman and uncivilised manner. My government has, in lieu of imposing Sharia Law on our people, just completed the draft of a new secular Constitution which is very liberal and mundane, for I am conscious that Sharia Law does not reflect the needs of my people who are aspiring to become a modern society. Pro-Islamists are hell bent on spreading their influence & version of Islam in the region, and are exploiting the plight of the people of Somaliland. Islamists are the kind of people inspired by a boundless hate who could even exculpate and excuse the crimes of the Holocaust. They have scant regard of the dire needs of the Somali people. All they are interested in is to have their way and are pouring arms and funds to set-up a pro-Islamic regime in our country and establish more Islamic proxies throughout the region. Their modus operandi is to take advantage of people's predicament and impose unsuitable Islamic regimes upon and unsuspecting people. Somalila nd is doing all it can to be a bulwark against the spread of Islamic fundamentalism and sees this as an international issue, thus would appreciate it if your Excellency would use your good offices & enormous influence in the West, particularly in the US, to alert them about the portentous/ominous situation developing in this region, so that they would not remain hapless on-lookers while their national/international interests are being threatened. I am absolutely certain that those Arab countries noted above, as well as Iran, will whip-up Islamic/Arab passion against Somaliland establishing amiable & strategic partnership with the State of Israel and thus could use this as a pretext to exacerbate our situation further both inside and outside Somaliland. However, those countries need to know that my government is not playing with empty emotions, as they often do, but playing pragmatism and real politick for the best interest of its people and country. The people of Somaliland have a daunting and onerous task to overcome their Islamist adversaries and contain the encroachment of Islamic influence, considering their strength, however, we are like David facing Goliath, but then there were an overwhelming odds against Israel when it defeated Arabs in three major wars. In order to surmount such an onerous task my government needs the support and assistance of the State of Israel, not only to defend our nascent state from the menace of pro-Islamist dark forces, but also in terms of relief, rehabilitation and reconstruction of this devastated country. In this regard my government has a number of priority areas where your Excellency's assistance is pivotal to the people of Somaliland, among these are: First, military equipment and counter insurgency experts. Second, conducting plebiscite on the issue of independence at the end of next year 1996 or early 1997. Third, relief and rehabilitation aid as well as development advisers, petroleum and mineral exploitation expertise. The people of Somaliland have full confidence in their government and are absolutely behind me in this historic decision of establishing strategic partnership with the state of Israel and I am determined to see it come into fruition. Shalom, I have the honour to remain, Your Obedient Servant Mohamed Ibrahim Egal President Republic of Somaliland Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Allamagan Posted July 10, 2006 ... Shalom, I have the honour to remain, Your Obedient Servant Mohamed Ibrahim Egal President Republic of Somaliland :eek: , ME, this is a frightening story, wallahi. can you please provide us with the source I mean the web address. Thanks! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dhubad. Posted July 10, 2006 Ballaa kadhacday! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted July 10, 2006 ^^^ This letter is as old as Somaliland, I doubt the late Egal wrotte it specially the last part. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted July 10, 2006 As it says up there it’s from a group called "Liberty for the Muslim World". An anti-Islamic group It also says ther telephone number and address. Come on don't be shocked, didn’t you know that these guys have long been doing things like this? Couple of weeks ago we had a post about the secessionists praying for the colonial soldiers who died in the fight against the daraawiish while they call the daraawiish ‘Murderous Jihadist Movement’ This quote from Oodweyne’s post today sums it up Originally posted by Oodweyne: quote:Originally Posted By Mr. Qudhac : the "Murderous Jihadist" military campaign of the "Dervishes Movement" and their megalomaniac bloodthirsty leader, namely a certain "very-much-mentally-disturb" wayward gentleman by the name of "Mad Mullah"; against the people and the communities of the British Somaliland Protectorate in the early decades of the 20th century i]...." Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted July 10, 2006 While I agree the secesionists can at times lose the plot, I do have reservations on this letter from Egal to Rabine.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted July 10, 2006 Its not a secret that the secessionists will do anything to get any recognition. I remmber an article that was adverising Berbera base and how it could be usefull to the Isreali Air Force since it was only 42 seconds away from Saudi Arabia and the two Islamic holy places. We are dealing with people who will spare nothing for their cause. That man was right when he said we are the orphans of the queen. Time for Somaliland lawmakers to recognize unilaterally the state of Israel, By Faysal Diriye July 4, 2006 This short is aimed at dwelling on and expanding the smart analysis of Nuradin Hasan (Arab Vs Somaliland) following the Banjul summit where the dispute between Somaliland and Arab countries took on a new dimension. It is true that Somalilanders have long been accustomed to Arab countries unabated misguided policies towards them, and were by and large forewarned about any Arab diplomatic offensive to contain, if not eliminate, the growing political stature of Somaliland. Blinded by the ridiculous attempt of safeguarding their hegemonic Egyptian surrogate when it comes to the use of Nile water resources, Arab countries have never been able refrain from taking sides and to preserve a neutral stance on Somaliland-Somalia relations even on the face of the dismal failure of the unitary Somalia and in total disregard of the interests and aspirations Somaliland people But this is time around, after failing to convince fellow African countries to desert Somaliland, Sudan and Egypt embarked in a very disgraceful grandstanding aimed at bullying fellow countries into restricting SL influence. Anti Somaliland sentiment is therefore tellingly cranked over and following these new developments, I agree with Nuradin on the need of a dramatic shift of Somaliland foreign policy. One should first help one hand, and in my opinion the following actions ought to be considered. A unilateral severance of all relations with Arab countries altogether following a parliamentary debate and vote. During these discussions, it appears important to me not cheapens the issue at hand by mixing Islam in our political and economic decisions and not lose sight of our overriding responsibility : to broke off the Arab diplomatic encirclement. This move probably won't affect the recognition situation by itself but will likely woo fellow Somalilanders into reconsidering new diplomatic options in the wake of the diplomatic reverse inflicted by Arab countries. Unilateral recognition of the state of Israel and establishment of diplomatic relations on ambassador level. Some of us might dubious of any involvement of the Jewish state into Somaliland affairs, but letâ€s keep in mind the high profile support of Israel to the Anyanya movement against Khartoum dictatorship. Chadian rulers, were also helped by Israel to fight off Arab-sponsored rebellions in the late 80â€s. To counterbalance Arab imperialism in East Africa, Israelis took over5 the British presence in Uganda and Tanzania was at one point the largest recipient of Israelis military. And Indeed Somaliland present a huge geo-strategic impor¬tance for a state of Israel in a hostile environment, from securing the Red Sea transit to Israeli ships to developing bilateral military cooperation similar to the Turkey-Israel alliance. Faysal Diriye Ottawa, Canada Faysal Diriye faysaldiriye@yahoo.ca Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KEYNAN22 Posted July 10, 2006 ME, this is a frightening story, wallahi. can you please provide us with the source I mean the web address. Thanks! HERE IS THE SOURCE. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suldaanka Posted July 10, 2006 Gudaafad xashiish foqal gudaadaf xashiish. You and that vomit belong to the landfill. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted July 10, 2006 Somaliland: The Israel in the Horn of Africa by Rashid Nur, USA (from awdalnews.com) Somaliland can benefit from the strategies that have helped the State of Israel to prevail against enormous challenges over the past few decades: the constant security threat from neighbors, terrorism against innocent civilians, lack of diplomatic relations with many nations, and unreasonable demands by the international community (UN, EU, OU, and Arab League) are some of the challenges that Israel had to overcome in its modern history – despite the discrimination in Europe and genocide committed by Hitler on Jews. The Republic of Somaliland and its people have been facing the same challenges from its neighbors and international community. Somaliland survived the massacre committed by former dictator Siad Barre’s regime. The biggest security threat to Somaliland’s existence today comes from its neighbors – particularly Somalia. Somaliland is surrounded by nations that do not recognize its existence and are determined to destroy it, such as Somalia, Djibouti, and Eritrea. Egypt and Saudi Arabia have been waging a diplomatic and economic campaign against Somaliland interest. The international community such as UN, AU, EU, Arab League etc places unreasonable demands that are constantly hostile to Somaliland interest, such as numerous UN resolutions that call for the unity and territorial integrity of Somalia, which denies the existence of the Republic of Somaliland. Egypt has used its influence with Arab nations to isolate Somaliland presumably to protect Egyptian interest by ensuring the unity and territorial integrity of Somalia, which Egypt believes will neutralize Ethiopian influence in the region. Saudi Arabia has banned livestock imports from Somaliland, which devastated the local economy in Somaliland. Djibouti and Eritrea have committed to protect the unity of Somalia, and have trained militia that attacks Ethiopia from Somaliland borders, fully aware that Somaliland does not have the capacity to stop all of them at its border. The terrorist organization called Al Jihad organized terrorist cell in Somaliland who murdered five foreign nationals in Somaliland. Fortunately those terrorists were apprehended by Somaliland security and are currently on trial in Hargeisa (Somaliland capital). The international community particularly the United Nations had been demanding Somaliland should negotiate with and reconcile differences with murders, warlords and thugs who do not respect and value the human life, many of whom are responsible for the death of tens of thousands of Somaliland people. This is similar to asking the people of Israel to negotiate and reconcile with the remnants of the Hitler regime. Somaliland is desperately in need of a friend in the international community that can help with the security threat from its neighbors, economic embargo imposed by Saudi Arabia, and recognition for the Republic of Somaliland. The people and the State of Israel is a suitable friend for Somaliland. It is incumbent upon the Somaliland leaders (government, opposition parties, traditional leaders and NGO’s) to work diligently in seeking to establish opportunities that would facilitate relationship with the State of Israel. The Ambassador of Israel in Ethiopia have arranged a humanitarian assistance for young Somaliland boy to have heart surgery in Israeli hospital about a year ago and the entire nation of Somaliland and its people have showed gratitude and appreciation for the gesture. The response from the people showed the positive attitude of the Somaliland people towards Israel. The people of Somaliland are convinced that the Arab countries in the Middle East, Egypt, Djibouti, and Eritrea are committed to do everything in their power to prevent Somaliland recognition. My hope is that Israel will be open to establish friendship and provide security assistance to the people and the Republic of Somaliland. The people of Israel should know that Somaliland had not forgotten that Israel was the first nation to recognize the independence of Somaliland from British Empire on June 26, 1960. Somaliland is once again looking at Israel to lead the international community and offer friendship and security assistance to the Republic of Somaliland. The State of Israel would gain the friendship and the gratitude of the people of Somaliland for decades to come, not to mention the strategic value that Somaliland (access and control of red see) will provide to the interest of Israel. It is incumbent upon the Somaliland leaders (government & opposition parties) to work diligently in seeking recognition from the State of Israel by taking concrete steps to establishing long and lasting relationship with the people and the State of Israel. Somaliland is the Israel in the horn of Africa in terms of the challenges that are facing her today. Needless to say Somaliland needs a friend in the international community and Israel will certainly appreciate the predicament Somaliland is faced with, considering the history of the State of Israel with the same international organizations such as the United Nations and Israel will likely be more accommodating than Egypt and Saudi Arabia in helping Somaliland. The last two Somaliland administrations have both expressed the desire to establish relationship with the State of Israel, but have not done enough to follow it through with their expressed desires. At the same time it is time the Somaliland Diaspora makes contact with the people of Israel, NGO’s, and the diplomatic offices for the State of Israel and encourage them to establish official diplomatic relationship with the Republic of Somaliland. It is time Somaliland seriously evaluates its long term foreign policy in the middle east in general and particularly Israel to protect the interest of Somaliland. Rashid Nur rashidnur@hotmail.com Somaliland: The Israel in the Horn of Africa by Rashid Nur, USA (from awdalnews.com) The State of Israel would gain the friendship and the gratitude of the people of Somaliland for decades to come, not to mention the strategic value that Somaliland (access and control of red see) will provide to the interest of Israel. It is incumbent upon the Somaliland leaders (government & opposition parties) to work diligently in seeking recognition from the State of Israel by taking concrete steps to establishing long and lasting relationship with the people and the State of Israel. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oda_Nobunaga Posted July 10, 2006 That fake letter is ancient and who wrote it is obvious. The name of the group says it all liberty for the muslim world what a fake sounding name. and from the grammer and choice of words it is 100% gaurenteed that this was written by somalis, especially anti-somaliland somalis. but other than that we have no problems with I Isreal, isreal is not waging a political and economic war on us, our arab brothers are. so we welcome full diplomatic relations with isreal. an enemy of an enemy is a friend Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted July 10, 2006 Tell me what does that letter say that’s any different then what has been coming out from the secessionist media these days? To sum it up -The recognition of Israel in return for diplomatic ties, military and humanitarian assistance. -The renting of Berbera base to the Israeli Navy, who would then have a presence on the south coast of the Arabian Peninsula. Not to mention how close the Israeli Navy would be to the Islamic holy places. All these betrayals just for recognition, I wonder if this is desperation or just hate. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qudhac Posted July 11, 2006 me it must be very hard for you and your xaraan ku naax children of Afweyne neptism born children to bear the harsh reality of fending for yourself. no matter how much you spew from both ends you cannot errase the destiny of your forefathers defeat. indeed Israel is nation that stands up for their people and fights like men to defeat their "badh Naago" arab opponents, do you think you are scaring anyway by calling us "jews" of the Horn. atleast they dont hide behind their womans veil wailing while renting their backsides to the americans, my friend this world is dog eat dog fight for survival and i cannot fault them for surviving by any means fair or foul. we will not be scared by the two facecd arabs with their boggy man of Isreal like they have been doing to somalis for centuries. you properly think arabs = islam like so many ignorant africans who confuse basal eating political ambitions with religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
me Posted July 11, 2006 Originally posted by Qudhac: do you think you are scaring anyway by calling us "jews" of the Horn. Qudac I did not call anyone the jews of the Horn. The article that has been written by a pro-secessionist is titled The Israel in the Horn of Africa. Read is for yourself my friend. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Qudhac Posted July 11, 2006 me boy yes we are have we will have full deplomatic relation with them like Egypt and saudia arabia and kuwait and most other arabs have with israel, what are you planning to do about it, cry your eyes out. typical 1diot , who believes everything arabs tell him. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites