bilan Posted October 7, 2002 Woman in hiding after she lambasts Islam Andrew Osborn, Europe correspondent Sunday October 6, 2002 The Observer Barely six months have elapsed since his murder but the Islamophobia openly espoused by anti-immigration politician Pim Fortuyn is now being voiced by a female immigrant whose words are outraging Dutch Muslims. In an ironic twist which would have amused Fortuyn, a Somali political scientist who immigrated to the Netherlands when she was nine has taken up his controversial battle cry that Islam is 'backward'. In doing so Ayaan Hirsi Ali has become the Netherlands' very own Salman Rushdie and is now in hiding after receiving a barrage of anonymous death threats, allegedly from extremist Muslims. The trouble started when she took part in a live debate on Dutch TV. An advisor to the Dutch opposition Socialist party, she used the opportunity to launch a bitter attack on Islam, taking issue with what she called the shoddy way in which it regarded women. Making a plea for full women's rights including 'complete personal freedom and individual choice' she claimed there was a 'serious imbalance' in relations between Muslim men and women and borrowed Fortuyn's famous phrase to label Islam 'a backward religion'. In the months since Fortuyn's death, Hirsi Ali has become a fierce critic of the way women are treated in Islamic society, particularly in tight-knit fundamentalist circles in the West. One of her accusations is that conservative Muslim groups cover up widespread domestic violence and child abuse in their midst. Yassin Hartog, a spokesman for Islam and Citizenship, the Netherlands' main Muslim lobby group, says he believes the death threats against Hirsi Ali may have been fabricated to blacken the Muslim community. 'We're getting more and more signs that these death threats are bogus,' he told The Observer. In an effort to distance themselves from the affair 17 Muslim organisations have signed a declaration condemning the death threats. However, this is not the first time anti-Islamic rhetoric has attracted death threats in the Netherlands and elsewhere. 'This is nothing new - just think of Salman Rushdie,' Secil Arda, the head of a Turkish women's group, told Radio Netherlands. 'Some people have the courage to say something, to give their opinion. 'I consider our fight a milestone in the process of emancipation. Without this quest we would never have change.' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SayidSomal Posted October 7, 2002 I say don't threaten her JUST KILL HER!!! (By the way where does it she is a Somali??) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thinkerman Posted October 7, 2002 Thats very sad to here indeed in th current atmosphere of islamaphobeia and to come from s somali, WOMAN, wallahi times are a changing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted October 7, 2002 if i see her,i will qal her. who cares if she leaves Islam,but we do care if she abuses and aflagaadeeso our religion Islam. tuugta caddeesatay!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Haaruun Posted October 7, 2002 Nuuune iyo dhamaan my nomads here,.....aniga tigidhka iga soo bixiya, anaa u tagayee. Qanjaruufo, urug, feer jilib, xag xagasho, qaniinyo, daliig, wax walba anaa usoo dhameyne. Taas ma istaahisho iyadoo gafuur dheer inay meelahaa mar marto..ar ciil badanaa.. What's the matter with you pple? I'm talking to those who live the same city, neighbourhood or country,,,,war naagta shaqo ka qabta ama $$$ isoo dira anaa tagayee..4real!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Buubto Posted October 7, 2002 :mad: :mad: Subxaana laah :mad: :mad: . Oh my loard, gaal ka dabo dhifleen ayaa ilbax & raaxo la mooday. I feel so shamed & shocked walaahi :eek: . To even learn that she is Somali, no no way I can’t believe this. Is this accurate information? If this is correct information then this lady is lack of iman & knowledge about Islam. She doesn’t know what she believes in & most importantly she doesn’t have clue what Islam all about. If any one is backwards is her & all non believers. Like this lady she doesn’t deserve non other than to be ignored or punished according our religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blessed Posted October 7, 2002 Subxaan Allah! This is a fine example of ignorance of the deen of Allah, perhaps she wasn't muslim to begin with. I mean, being born into a muslim family and being Somali arn't determinning factors. We have to make the choice to follow the deen of Allah. May Allah keep us true to his deen. This really isn't something new.. in a certain website, Somalis insult Allah, The Prophet (saw)Islam etc on a daily basis... I have also seen some question the authencity of the Quran else where. Is this a new breed of out spoken kaafir Somalis? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SomaliaOnline-President Posted October 7, 2002 Nuuune iyo dhamaan my nomads here,.....aniga tigidhka iga soo bixiya, anaa u tagayee. Qanjaruufo, urug, feer jilib, xag xagasho, qaniinyo, daliig, wax walba anaa usoo dhameyne. Taas ma istaahisho iyadoo gafuur dheer inay meelahaa mar marto..ar ciil badanaa.. What's the matter with you pple? I'm talking to those who live the same city, neighbourhood or country,,,,war naagta shaqo ka qabta ama $$$ isoo dira anaa tagayee..4real!! War sxb, miyaad soo wadataa? War waamaxay waxaad ku hadleyso? Bisinka. But funny though. HaHaHaHaHaHaH Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lefty Posted October 7, 2002 I heard this story while ago and it's really wacky how maryoleys are behaving lately..but the worst thing is she ain't the only one, there're many other stupidies out there.! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Macalin Posted October 7, 2002 I hope this is a bogus claim. Gaalnimo is not something new-its been with us long..but this B!tch needs some guidance-not threatenings/killings..just challenge her to an open forum!(Buubto and bulo wat u say?) BTW> yall rem X-playa??..maxaa hee marka Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Valenteenah. Posted October 7, 2002 Originally posted by Haaruun: Nuuune iyo dhamaan my nomads here,.....aniga tigidhka iga soo bixiya, anaa u tagayee. Qanjaruufo, urug, feer jilib, xag xagasho, qaniinyo, daliig, wax walba anaa usoo dhameyne. Taas ma istaahisho iyadoo gafuur dheer inay meelahaa mar marto..ar ciil badanaa.. What's the matter with you pple? I'm talking to those who live the same city, neighbourhood or country,,,,war naagta shaqo ka qabta ama $$$ isoo dira anaa tagayee..4real!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: LoL! I'll help wit the ticket if u want. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted October 7, 2002 haaruun,am ready for my bit. waraa the thing is not that she is ignorant or know nothing about islam,i bet you she knows everything about islam and i can tell you that she knows most of the quran by heart!! do you know that an ignorant person basically somali person wouldn't do such things,tusaale,wir wakaasee qof jaahil ah oo soomaali ah ku dheh: ma christaan baad tahay? mise ayagaad caawisaa? amaba kudheh,waxba kama taqaanid diinta islaamka,asagoo haadaayo uu madaxa yaanbo ama burus kaala dhici,dhibaato weyn aad kujirtaa markaad saas kudhahdo qofkaas Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Samafal Posted October 7, 2002 Amazing!!!!!!!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nuune Posted October 7, 2002 and this is the somali lady we are talking about,why do i call her somali lady,bcause somali lady won't do such things,she is asbax doofaaar cadeesatay tuugad baad tahay. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bilan Posted October 7, 2002 i think that sending her death threats,is what she wants, now, anyone who wants to be a famous all he/she had to do is insult islam or the prophet(SCW), so i think that muslims should not threaten them but debate with them, i'm 100% sure her knowledge of islam is 0.it was just last night in 60 minutes, that this christian fundemant called the prophet(PPUH) a terrorist, and said that jesus and moses(calayhimaa salaam) were peace men, anyone who read the bible will find out that, he is contradicting his own religion. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites