Cabdiqasim calling for foreign troops during his transitional era.

[Abwaan]

Runtu waxay tahay Soomaali xalkeedu inuu ku jiro gacantooda. Ma ahan inay ajnebi noocuu doonaba ay u yeertaan. Waana in caqligu shaqeeyaa oo nacaybka meel la iska dhigaa runtii saaxiib. Haddiise nacayb lagu jiro dhibaato iyo halaag ayaa jiri. Waan aragnay dagaal iyo nacayba halkuu na geeyey.

 

Brother how could you compare this UIC kacdoon to previous ones? Was there bililiqo towards dadka xoolahooda, was there aano qabiil (I am aware of wixii ka dhacay Saakoow oo dhowr qof oo dhaawac ah la diley waana wax laga xumaado, waxaase igu maqaalo ah in la yiri in sharciga silaamka la horkeeni doono kuwii sameeyey).

[Gabbal]

Do Idamaale writers read SOL? It funny how they posted the link after I put it on SOL.

[General Duke]

^^^Its circulating wildly through Somali cyberspace, thanks to Horn.

[Somali_Friend]

Why do some people bring Islam into their dirty world of crooked politics? I am glad to say that our politics is as bad as somalia, but as people we do not allow or tolerate fake crusaders or fake Jihadist. The christians expose and stop fake crusaders and moslems expose and defeat fake Jihadists. It gives the people confidence in each other and peace in faith.

The people of Somalia so far have also shown that Islam is not a religion where some greedy and dictatoral group uses and misuses for its own benefit. The ICU is now hiding the false Jihad call against somalis and ethiopians.

 

This man AbdulKassim visited Egypt and then after visiting his list of arab countries came to east africa, where he should have started.

Now is hiding behind religion full time. These are the type of people that give religion a bad image and name.

 

The people in Mugadishu held demonstration at his time to reject egypt's machinations on somalia and actually the rep. of egypt had to hide and leave Mugadishu for some time.

The Egyptians told AbdulKassim no peacekeepers for you, we are sorry.

[NASSIR]

Was it Miskiin Macruuf who said leave Cabdiqasim, he is a good man.

[Miskiin-Macruuf-Aqiyaar]

Originally posted by Caamir:

Was it Miskiin Macruuf who said leave Cabdiqasim, he is a good man.

C/qaasin waa daludhalad oo daljecel ah, oo Soomaalinimadiisa saafi ah ku raagtay. In a word the extreme opposite of the spectrum of that octogenarian Xabashi lackey, sycophant you call a "leader." He completely single-handedly disdained the litle respect the Soomaali name had around the world, not to mention the minscule tolerance he had around Soomaalis. He and his known Xabashi-obedient, puppet politics is a vile, a virus aan damiir iyo garad Soomaaliba midba lahayn. By all means, must be stopped, by whatever means.

 

But let's see the reality, without aan la iska indhatirin.

 

C/qaasin Soomaali ayaa dooratay, kursigiisana markuu waqtiga u dhamaaday si nabad ah ugu degay.

 

C/qaasin Xabashi uma soo horseedin dalkeena.

 

C/qaasin ummad Soomaaliyeed aan waxba galabsan ma xasuuqin.

 

C/qaasin ummad Soomaaliyeed geeljirto ah kuma sheegin 'argagixiso,' asagoo xataa aan lala soo socodsiin by Mareykanka waxee sameynayaan, in the country he claims to rule.

 

C/qaasin tried to defend the integrity of Soomaali unity, meel iyo shir walbana saas ka lahaa xadka Soomaaliyeed in uu muqadas yahay.

 

C/qaasin can live and move around freely among with his people, without fear iyo gees gees iska fiirin.

 

C/qaasin did not also lead dowlad jirto in uu Xabashi, our historical foes, u qabto a Soomaali degmo by the name of Goldogob, calan Xabashi laga taago isla meeshaas.

 

C/qaasin was never a warlord. Never sought power by xasuuqing masaakin, by killing traditional leaders, by contaminating dangerous nuclear wastes in our seas, by...

 

Worse of all, C/qaasin does not insult other elder statesmen's wives. Even shame itself gets ashamed of this. It is un-Soomaalike, un-Islamic and universally abhorred. Then again aqlaaq waa loo dhashaa.

 

Run maa isku sheegnaa mise been, ariiroow?

[NASSIR]

You might want to read this archived article.

 

Truculent Abdiqasim and his Warlords

 

By: Ahmed Hersi

March 27 ,2005

 

 

I was surfing the net when I came across an article, titled, “Somalia must pay arrears to win new loans,” on March 25, which was addressed to the newly-established Transitional Federal Government of Somalia (TFG). It demands the payment of an outstanding $430 million that was given to the former transitional government (TNG) in the form of assistance. Thus, in order to win a new loan, the new government must pay it as a condition for another loan.

 

Suddenly, a wave of shock interrupted my thought process from its natural course, a normal course of recycling previous information that my brain had recorded and used for a period of five years. Initially, I was impressed by the said integrity of Abdiqasim as authority figure and democratically elected president, but I was proven entirely wrong of these pre-recorded conceptions. In fact, my country was never forgotten in terms of humanitarian and financial aid despite the ceaseless blight of Somalia. The TNG of Abdiqasim did not fail because of deficient trust and support from nationwide but deceptive schemes that betrayed its promises and which had led to the treacherous renegades. In this regard, Abdiqasim and his former interim government stand responsible for the onerous task that was left unfulfilled, along with the subsequent corruption and embezzlement, which sprang up after the government began to function in Somalia. Dr. Ali Khalif's defection, for instance, with an alleged sum of national funds was a noteworthy lead of the TNG's collapse and succeeding activities that eroded its resources.

 

Faced with uncertainties, Abdiqasim underestimated the effective reshuffling of his cabinet to rescue it from further duplicity and duress. The twilight of fascist culture ringed in his mind and it was an opportune time for him to change his political philosophy. He thought of himself as the aggressed and not the aggressor of the burdensome task. As Sam Izu once said, “it is a tragic world but a world without guilt for its tragic flow is not a flow of human nature.”

 

Abdiqasim was guilty of absolving himself of any guilt for the tragic flow of his actions . The myriad evidences of internal conflicts and the indifference to it, constitute glaring prima facie case for the bygone money. Besides, this change of him per se was blunderingly moral trajectory for a president widely perceived as trustworthy and religious pundit.

 

The article has stressed and demanded of where that $430M had gone. “Impoverished Somalia must clear $430 million of debt arrears to the World Bank and International Monetary Fund before the bank can start lending to the new government, a bank official said on Thursday,” it said. The press release from World Bank came in response to TFG's appeal to donors for $77.3 Million for its relocation and reconstruction budget.

 

Abdiqasim was indeed very silent and fastidious in his personal plots. In it, he receded to the practice of fascism kindly similar to that of former president Siad Barre, using nepotism, blandishments, intimidation, oppression, arbitrary killings, embezzlements, etc. In two years, Abdiqasim had built multitude militia factions loyal to his cause and transitional government, who mostly identified with his clan (Ceyr). The creation of Juba Valley Alliance (JVA) and powerful Islamic organizations ensued as part of ongoing secret deals with different interests and faces. Like the “manifest destiny doctrine of 19th century,” He sought land expansion by aggressively investing in his tribesmen and allies with abundance of money that afforded them the purchase of modern munitions mounted on hundreds of pick-up trucks. They easily conquered the coastal and riverine localities south of Mogadishu. How much misery and horror his militias factions have inflicted on the local people of these areas stay limitless.

 

Until now, these multitude militia factions hold hostages of the defenseless urban and agricultural societies that live in areas starting from Mogadishu south to Kismayu. They operate under the commanders of a previously unheard number of warlords, who in their daily pillaging, killing, raping, and extorting the locals, have carved out notorious names such as Indha Cade, Galaal, and etc. They have even began to arrogate proprietary rights to their clans about the territories in which they have forcefully occupied and ruled under martial law.

 

Abdiqasim did not stop there. He confides to his so called strongmen to continue their systematic land expansion and indiscriminate eradication of local resistance so that they can continue milking the cow. It is a series of odd monstrous activity that turned the whole southern Somalia into complex intricate web of fiefdoms. With the soaring statistics of poverty and extreme mortality rate, these infamous activities will continue unless they are stopped by forceful measures and stern actions from IGAD.

 

The Warlords have reiterated so many times that they will never give up or compromise for their illegal occupations and the current status quo with or without the agreement they had entered and signed in Kenya. At times, they contrive excuses of wanton exclusion of some IGAD countries from frontline states particularly Ethiopia, accusing them of having ulterior motives. This position is plainly devoid of persuasive weight in terms of international law standards. Basically, the sovereignty of a nation is safeguarded from enemy invasion by International law. The U.N can wage a just war against the aggressor under the just causes of war doctrine that uphold one of the principles of U.N charter that if a country is invaded illegally, it should receive the protection of world wide support militarily and economically. Hence, the right of intention of Ethiopia's involvement in Somalia is blocked from violation of territorial integrity except enhancement of security and safety for the TFG.

 

Somalia needs military intervention at this circumstantial stage. Warlords can not seek a way out of this marriage contract they lastly vowed to uphold its pillars and to be liable for its proviso. Nor can they stipulate a condition for which the government should take alternatively. I believe the cause of what is generating this mayhem and wanton intentions is the initial recommendations given by the gullible International Crisis Group that Somali parliamentarians should always consider consensus and compromise over their pressing issues.

 

Rationally, consensus cast insoluble riddles on practical solutions. It also empowers the cunning plots of these warlords to sabotage the two-year long peace process. Therefore, this plaintive yearning for solution by ICG is unworkable and dispensable. The government should pursue general vote for every pressing agendas, which I think it is pursuing them effectively and efficiently, a just aim that would accomplish militia disarmament, tranquility, enforcement, and legitimate institutions for this exiled government. This step could also be a golden chance to improve itself from the ruthless remnants of Abdiqaasim's former TNG.

 

Source: Wardheernews

[Fabregas]

Originally posted by Somali_Friend:

Why do some people bring Islam into their dirty world of crooked politics? I am glad to say that our politics is as bad as somalia, but as people we do not allow or tolerate fake crusaders or fake Jihadist. The christians expose and stop fake crusaders and moslems expose and defeat fake Jihadists. It gives the people confidence in each other and peace in faith.

The people of Somalia so far have also shown that Islam is not a religion where some greedy and dictatoral group uses and misuses for its own benefit. The ICU is now hiding the false Jihad call against somalis and ethiopians.

 

 

Who are you to declare to declare what is a false Jihad or not? Do we Muslims tell you who should be your bishops and whatnot?

[Liqaye]

somali friend said

 

Why do some people bring Islam into their dirty world of crooked politics? I am glad to say that our politics is as bad as somalia, but as people we do not allow or tolerate fake crusaders or fake Jihadist. The christians expose and stop fake crusaders and moslems expose and defeat fake Jihadists. It gives the people confidence in each other and peace in faith.

The people of Somalia so far have also shown that Islam is not a religion where some greedy and dictatoral group uses and misuses for its own benefit. The ICU is now hiding the false Jihad call against somalis and ethiopians.

 

your understanding of these things are miniscule, you have done nothing but expose your ignorance of somali politics....perhaps another hibernation is in order.

 

Abdiqasin will hold a better position in the pantheon of somali history than yusuf.

Simple as that.

[NASSIR]

^Abdiqasim is responsible for the mayhem and destruction that his clan perpetrated in the Deep south. He is responsible for investing in his tribesmen and creating all the warlords that ruled from Afgoi to Kismayo.

[Fabregas]

Yes and Abullahi Yusuf is the saviour of Somalia!

[NASSIR]

I am questioning his ability to save this country. I didn't say he was the savior. You are merely rearranging your prejudices.

[Abwaan]

Caamir xaggee joogaan this police force you are talking about? Can they claim to be a police force for Somalia when they cannot bring law and order on Somali streets? That filthy Woyanes are massacring Somali women and children.

 

These Maryacalas lacagaha lagu cuno oo lagu raadsado oo qiiro qabiil iyo eex lagu soo xulay ee aanse karti iyo hurnaan lagu soo xulin miyaa ah ciidan qaranka Soomaaliyeed badbaadin kara?

 

 

I agree with you that C/Qaasim is a looser uu dalkaan burburkiisana qayb ku leeyahay, laakiin looser C/llaahi Yuusuf iyo waxa raacsan oo qabyaaladda ku taageera ka liita ma jiraan. Taariikhda Soomaaliyeed mugdi geliyey, dalkii ka gatay Itoobiyaan Injir leh ummaddii iyo shacabkiina xasuuqay, waana ayaan darro inaad kaas qabiil u taageertaa waayo dadka uu laayey waxa uu ka soo billaabay degaannada Puntland sida la ogyahay.

[Abwaan]

Abdiqasim might have created warlords and I DO NOT think he is innocent but just like mid ka mid ah odayaashaan xukunku madaxa ka dardaray waxaan la yaabay markii uu sharaf-darradiisa iska soo sharraxay Mbagathi isagoo xil raadinaya markii uu ku fashilmay xilalkii hore ee uu hayey oo uu weliba ogyahay una jeeday in Itoobiyaanku rabeen mid dulli ah oo ay ku adeegtaan.

 

Waxaase yaab leh Caamir kuwo isaga ka dembi badan oo uu u horreeyo C/laahi iyo warlords-ka From Gedo, Kismaayo, Baydhabo Muqdisho and all the way to Boosaaso dhooban ayaad indhaha ka saabanaysaa see wax u jiraan?