Gabbal Posted December 7, 2006 Who hasn't changed their positions? He used the same two reasons this TFG succeeded with; 1. Internal/external terrorism. 2. Disarming of militias opposed to him. Calls out the United Nations Security Council on their "obligation" to send peace keepers to the Somali people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamalu Diin Posted December 7, 2006 Thanks for providing this historical info.. I have searched I could not able to locate. thanks Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamalu Diin Posted December 7, 2006 USC/ICU hijacked Somalia; They can call such order but no one else. that how I understand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
General Duke Posted December 7, 2006 ^^^Ouch, the man now opposes this TFG, and says he is ready to go to war? Eat your heart out Abdiqasin.. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted December 7, 2006 The TFG has concrete evidence of its claims for the support of foreign troops. It will succeed in getting foreign troops once and for all. Somalia has been ignored for so many years. It is therefore the right time that we get military and political support from the International community in ending the anarchy. Leaving Somalis to solve their own problems will not help and will deteriorate the situation. The paradox is that we Somalis who have been spilling each other's blood for so many years can solve their own problems. Somalia is a tiny country with the population of one tribe in Kenya alone. It should be rescued and helped from total devastation. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Libaax-Sankataabte Posted December 8, 2006 Somali politics is indeed very strange. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 8, 2006 did it ever happen though that is the question,this current so called transitional national government has reached new heights,bringing Ethiopian troops against the will of the people. You still have to question,why didn't Qasim get the same support from Ethiopia? I think the reason is because he wasnt' being how should I say a loyal boy to Addis therefore,they refused to provide him any support on the other hand col.Yey and Prof.Geedi are reall loyal couples for Melez. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted December 8, 2006 Originally posted by Libaax-Sankataabte: Somali politics is indeed very strange. It is indeed strange and revolves around Qabil. Abdillahi Yusuf is opposed simply because he belongs to an unwanted clan, ugly but true. The question that comes to mind is who elected HIM. If we say warlords elected, well how many warlords out of 275 members are in the Parliament? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RedSea Posted December 8, 2006 ^what unwanted clan,that comment is ugly and has no bases on the truth. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamalu Diin Posted December 8, 2006 Mr. Red Sea you know that Abdiqasim was interesting to get an army, but no one is asking what is he going to do with those army differs with A/Y. I guess no answer. Everyone of them is interesting to be succecfull and their administration have lasting effect in Somalia that what is everyone is looking for. It is wrong to be viewed other then original intent. When one of them start twisting our intent then everyone of us can twist other intent. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted December 8, 2006 So what has Abdiqasim's change of position got to do with the Islamic Courts Union? It's Sheikh Sharif, Sheikh Aweys and others who are leading the ICU, not Abdiqasim. Sheikh Sharif, Sheikh Aweys and the current ICU leaders were not part of the old (secular) system where Abdiqasim had a stance different than his current one. And what is wrong with changing one's position? One can reform, repent and change his previous wrong positions. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamalu Diin Posted December 8, 2006 Originally posted by Mr.Red Sea: ^what unwanted clan,that comment is ugly and has no bases on the truth. Are you in deniel........ what are the bases of Somaliland. To may knowledge Somaliland get tried of the drama of Southern tribes whom thought they have more legitimacy to rule the union then Somalilanders, and were reduced to Egal's tribe instead of two states .............. isn't that the reasons that Somaliland left of the union. Mr. Red Sea don't be selfish lik me........ Stay with Union. you don't want that because those people Mogadishu Warmongers are hard to deal with. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashafa Posted December 8, 2006 Abdillahi Yusuf is opposed simply because he belongs to an unwanted clan, ugly but true Not really. He's opposed simply because, just like Aideed and Siad Barre, he's a f'ing power-hungry, murderous, amoral, traitorous(this is a unique quality to him ) SOB(figuratively speaking). And that's a understatement. On the other hand, I'd bet a million bucks why you support A/Y, and why HornAfrique supports Barre, and why our nomad-in-exile Jumatatu supports Aideed is because y'all are all related to them, clanwise. Intelligent, apparently educated men. But they can't shake the clan monkey of their backs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kamalu Diin Posted December 8, 2006 Originally posted by Taliban: So what has Abdiqasim's change of position got to do with the Islamic Courts Union? It's Sheikh Sharif, Sheikh Aweys and others who are leading the ICU, not Abdiqasim. Sheikh Sharif, Sheikh Aweys and the current ICU leaders were not part of the old (secular) system where Abdiqasim had a stance different than his current one. And what is wrong with changing one's position? One can reform, repent and change his previous wrong positions. Abdiqasim, Warlords (USC factions) and new breads of USC (ICU) are one for all. They don't like A/Y calling International help. If it is true that they don't like Ethiopia (Enemy) then they must accept other africans that can't differenciate us. They don't like that idea tooo not because Ugandan, South African Come for Abdhulahi but they don't like Anyone else to lead Somalia except them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NASSIR Posted December 8, 2006 Kashafu, the Islamic courts is as power hungary as the president, but the president has legitimacy and U.N mandate to rule Somalia for five years. Why can't we wait for five years of his rule and then change him with whoever is better. Instead of being patient, we cause more mayhem and death to innocent people. Let us see if the ICU supports this time the U.N Resolution, which excludes the neighbouring countries. More importantly, Ethiopia welcomed the resolution and promised to lend a hand. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites