Sharif_seylaci Posted February 11, 2007 Qadiriyyah (Arabic: القادريه) (also transliterated Qadiri and Qadri), is one of the oldest Sufi tariqas, derives its name from Abdul Qadir Jilani (also transliterated as Gilani) (1077-1166), a native of the Iranian province of Gilan. In 1134 he was made principal of a Hanbalite school in Baghdad. The Qadiri order is the most tolerant and progressive spiritual order, distinguished by generosity, piety and humility. The Order is the most widespread of the Sufi Orders in the Islamic world and can be found in India, Pakistan, Turkey, the Balkans as well as much of the East and West Africa. The famous traveller and writer Isabelle Eberhardt also belonged to the Qadiri order. The Qadiri Order has not developed any distinctive doctrines or teachings outside of mainstream Islam. They practice the fundamental principles of Islam which is exemplified through mystical experien spritual chain The Holy Prophet Muhammad The Caliph Ali ibn Abi Talib Imam Husayn Imam Ali Zayn al-Abidin Imam Muhammad Baqir Imam Ja'far as-Sadiq Imam Musa al-Kazim Imam Ali Musa Rida Ma'ruf Karkhi Sari Saqati Junayd al-Baghdadi Shaikh Abu Bakr Shibli Shaikh Abdul Aziz al-Tamīmī Abu al-Fadl Abu al-Wahid al-Tamīmī Abu al-Farah Tartusi Abu al-Hasan Farshi Abu Sa'id al-Mubarak Mukharrami Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani his actual linage The Prophet Muhammad The Caliph Ali ibn Abi Talib Shaikh Hasan Basri Shaikh Habib Ajami Shaikh Dawood Taiee Shaikh Ma'ruf Karkhi Shaikh Sari Saqati Shaikh Junayd al-Baghdadi Shaikh Sheikh Abu Bakr Shibli Shaikh Sheikh Abdul Aziz al-Tamīmī Shaikh Abu al-Fadl Abu al-Wahid al-Tamīmī Shaikh Abu al-Farah Tartusi Shaikh Abu al-Hasan Farshi Shaikh Abu Sa'id al-Mubarak Makhzumi Shaikh Abdul Qadir Jilani 10 Rules for Spiritual Advancement Given by Hazrat Shaikh Abdul Qadir Gillani (RA) These rules are listed in Ghuniyat-ut Talibeen. Translation taken from: http://www.bahu.co.za/rules_to_mature.htm Jokingly or seriously, don't lie, because once your tongue avoids lying, Allah the Most High enlarges your chest and purifies your understanding and ilm (knowledge). That person becomes as if they don't know what a lie is. Everything becomes truth to him. When he hears other people lie, the mureed should pray for them not to lie. The disciple should avoid cursing or harming humans and other created beings (from bugs to Jinn) because avoiding to curse and harm is the character of the good and loyal friends of Allah. If a person is like this, then Allah protects him or her and their end will be good. They will reach to a high level in Allah's presence. Allah will protect them from being destroyed and protect them from harm. Allah rewards this person with being a blessing to human beings and close to Allah's essence. The disciple has to keep his promise at all times unless he has a very good excuse. He must avoid not keeping his promise because not keeping a promise is in the same class as lying. As long as the servant of Allah tries to keep his/her promise the doors of generosity and blessings open to him/her. Loyal lovers of Allah love these people and they get a high station in Allah's presence. It is better that he avoids the habit of making promise, so that he may not be guilty of the breach of promise. Even though a person has harmed or wronged him/her, the disciple should not pray for harm to come to him or curse him. Even if the mureed is wronged, he/she should not damn anyone, whether by word or action. The mureed should put up with this and be patient for Allah's sake. This virtue takes the owner to high stations in this world and the hereafter. Such a person will be loved by far and near ones. The disciple should not blame other believers with attributing partners to Allah, with disbelief or cause trouble between people. This attitude is close to mercy and assists the mureed to to reach high spiritual levels. The disciple should not sin inwardly (in the heart) or outwardly. He/She should avoid eating things that are not halal and protect all the organs of his body from sin. This state is the best achievement in this world that a mureed can cultivate for the eternal life. The disciple should earn his own livelihood and not be a burden to people who are independent of him/her. He should bear not only his own burden but also that of other people. Because of this virtue, the fear of Allah will make their worship complete and honorable. The disciple /dervish must not or should not expect anything from people or desire what belongs to others. He should be unmindful of things which he needs, for to have no need is the mark of honour and the distinguishing trait of piety of the pious. The biggest honour and wealth and the highest level is to put one's whole trust in Allah only. Only with this attitude can the dervish be pious. Worship matures with this attitude. This is the state and action of one who give himself to Allah. A disciple/dervish should not, either truly or falsely, intentionally or unintentionally, by mistake or on purpose take Allah's Name in vain or swear by the Name of Allah. The disciple/dervish should take to hospitality and humility. With humility, the dervish reaches high levels of spirituality and stays at this high level. This is the base of goodness and the highest level of goodness. Because of this quality the lovers of Allah stay with him in troubled times. The Walis (Saints) visit him in the unseen and aid him in his difficulty. Humility is seeing everybody you meet as higher than you and thinking that they might be closer to Allah than yourself. his rules Tariqah (طريقه translit: Ṭarīqah; pl.: طرق; Ṭuruq or Persian: Tarighat) means "way", "path" or method. In Sufism, it is conceptually related to Haqīqah, or Truth, the ineffable ideal that is the pursuit of the tradition. Thus one starts at the Sharī`ah, the exoteric or mundane practice of Islam and then is initiated onto the mystical path of a Tarīqah. Through spiritual practices and guidance of a Tarīqah the aspirant seeks Haqiqa or ultimate truth. Contents [hide] 1 Tariqah in the Four Spiritual Stations 2 Orders of Sufism 2.1 Traditional orders 2.2 Non-traditional Sufi groups 3 See also 4 References 5 External links 5.1 Orders A Tarīqah is a school of Sufism. A Tarīqah has a Murshid, or Guide, who plays the role of leader or spiritual director of the organization. ̣ A Sufi Tarīqah is a group of Murīd (pl.: Murīdīn), Arabic for desireous, desiring the knowledge of knowing God and loving God (a Murīd is also called a 'Faqīr' or 'Fakir' (Arabic: فقير ) another Arabic word that means poor or needy, usually used as al-Faqīr 'ilá Allāh, English: The needy to God's knowledge (Arabic: الفقير إلى الله )). Nearly every Tarīqah is named after its founder, and when the order is referred to as a noun -yah is usually added to a part of the founder's name. For example the "Rifai order," named after Shaykh `Ahmed er Rifai, is called the "Rifaiyyah", the "Qā***ī order," named after Shaykh `Abd al-Qā*** al-Jīlānī, is called the "Qādiriyyah". Often Tarīqahs are offshoots of other Tarīqahs for example the Jelveti order founded by Aziz Mahmud Hudayi who are an offshoot of the Bayrami order founded by Hajji Bayram in Ankara who are an offshoot of the zahidiyye founded by Pir Zahid al-Gaylani in Iran. The Khalwatī order are a particularly splintered order with numerous offshoots such as the Jerrahī, Sunbulī, Nasuhī, Karabashiyyah and others, the Tijaniyyah order prevalent in West Africa also has its roots in this Tariqa.Galibi Order founded by Galip Hassan Kuscuoglu inAnkara Turkey,today still coninues . In most cases, the Shaykh nominates his 'Khalīfah' or successor during his lifetime, who will take over the order. In rare cases, where the shaykh dies without naming a khalīfah, the Murīds of the Tarīqah elect another spiritual leader through a vote. In some orders, it is recommended to take a khalīfah from the same order as their Murshid. In some groups it is customary for the khalīfah to be the son of the shaykh, although in other groups the khalīfah and the shaykh are not normally relatives. In yet other orders, a successor may be identified through the spiritual dreams of its members. Tarīqahs have a Silsilah (Arabic: ( سلسلة )) meaning chain or, more idiomatically, a lineage of various Shaykhs that eventually leads back to Muhammad. Almost all order except the Naqshbandi order has a Silsilah that leads back to Muhammad through `Alī. (The Naqshbandi Silsilah goes back to Abu Bakr the first Caliph of Sunni Islam and then Muhammad.) This has led some Western writers on Islam to wrongly assume that many of the Tarīqas have a Shi`ite influence within them, although this idea falls short when it is remembered that all of the founders of the main Sufi orders have been Sunni Muslims: `Abd al-Qā*** al-Jīlānī adhered to the Ḥanbalī a school (madhhab) of Sunni Islamic law, and almost all of the famous Shaykhs of the Shādhilī order have been staunch Sunni Muslims. Take the following example, here is the Silsila of the Oveyssi order: Mohammad Ali ibn Abu Talib 1- Oveys Gharani 2- Salman the Persian 3- Habib-ibn Salim Ra'i 4- Soltan Ebrahim Adham 5- Abu Ali Shaqiq Balkhi 6- Sheikh Abu Torab Nakhshabi 7- Sheikh Abi Amro Istakhri 8- Abu Ja'far Hazza 9- Sheikh Kabir Abu Abdollah Mohammad-ibn Khafif Shirazi 10- Sheikh Hossein Akkar 11- Sheikh Morshed Abu-Isshaq Shahriar Kazerouni 12- Khatib Abolfath Abdolkarim 13- Ali-ibn Hassan Basri 14- Serajeddin Abolfath Mahmoud-ibn Mahmoudi Sabouni Beyzavi 15- Sheikh Abu Abdollah Rouzbehan Baghli Shirazi 16- Sheikh Najmeddin Tamat-al Kobra Khivaghi 17- Sheikh Ali Lala Ghaznavi 18- Sheikh Ahmad Zaker Jowzeghani 19- Noureddin Abdolrahman Esfarayeni 20- Sheikh Alaoddowleh Semnani 21- Mahmoud Mazdaghani 22- Amir Seyyed Ali Hamedani 23- Sheikh Ahmad Khatlani 24- Seyyed Mohammad Abdollah Ghatifi al-Hasavi Nourbakhsh 25- Shah Ghassem Feyzbakhsh 26- Hossein Abarghoui Janbakhsh 27- Darvish Malek Ali Joveyni 28- Darvish Ali Sodeyri 29- Darvish Kamaleddin Sodeyri 30- Darvish Mohammad Mozaheb Karandehi (Pir Palandouz) 31- Mir Mohammad Mo'men Sodeyri Sabzevari 32- Mir Mohammad Taghi Shahi Mashhadi 33- Mir Mozaffar Ali 34- Mir Mohammad Ali 35- Seyyed Shamseddin Mohammad 36- Seyyed Abdolvahab Naini 37- Haj Mohammad Hassan Kouzekanani 38- Agha Abdolghader Jahromi 39- Jalaleddin Ali Mir Abolfazl Angha 40- Mir Ghotbeddin Mohammad Angha 41- Shah Maghsoud Mohammad Sadegh Angha 42- Salaheddin Ali Nader Shah Angha 43- Seyyed Galip Hassan Kuscuoglu On the other hand there are in many of the silsilas of the Tarīqahs names of Shi'ite Imams; take for example the Qadiri silsila: Muhammad this is the right way Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Modesty Posted February 11, 2007 Allah knows the right way. But you can judge the apparent. Firstly, let me ask you what is sufi? In english it means a muslim mystic, in arabic it translates into "wool". Do you know the history of sufism? Although I do notice somalis in general make the deen strict and harsh...personally I never seen a "wadaad" type person smile..and arabs don't usually smile. ANyways that's beside the point...From my understanding of sufis they commit minor forms of shirk b/c they call on dead scholars to intercede on their behalf. Am I wrong? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted February 11, 2007 Originally posted by Modesty: From my understanding of sufis they commit minor forms of shirk b/c they call on dead scholars to intercede on their behalf. Calling on dead scholars to intercede on their behalf isn't a "minor" shirk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharif_seylaci Posted February 11, 2007 shrik are terms used by wahabis salafis salahis ppl who belive only the 2 generation after muhammad is they only way 2 live islam salih ya saliheeyn thats what they say They forbid ziyaaras but then again they alow ziyaaras of abu bakr as sadiq cumar ibn khataab osman ibn afaan and nabbi maxammmed they alow that. they forbid mala ta a nabbi how can u forbid mala ta nabbi nabbi maxammed ba ba yidhi igu salliya Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ameen Posted February 11, 2007 Assalam alaikum Subhan’Allah we are living in a time where opinions are widespread and knowledge is so limited. But Alhamdulilah, I have come to know the brothers and sisters that are on SOL are not ignorant nor do they argue about matters that Allah will judge between us on the Day of Judgment. In saying that, Sharif, I wonder what is the purpose of adding this new thread? Are you trying to recruit more members for this ideology that is losing faithfuls by the will of Allah? Has your local leader advised you to put this thread up on the internet and maybe than you’ll can convince a person who is not firm in their aqeedah to join you’ll? I’m sorry if I’m coming off harsh but in matters that have to do with aqeedah, there is no other way of approaching them accept directly. So, Sharif wait for the day when Allah will judge between us and the where truth will be visible and falsehood will be thrown aside. "Wait you for we too are waiting"-have you not come across this verse. Just one thing about waiting for the Day of Judgment to determine who was right and who is wrong, if you chose to wait that long, how much benefit will that knowledge be? Rather that knowledge would be used as evidence against us. And Allah knows best P.S. My sincere advice to my fellow brothers and sisters on SOL, lets not argue about aqeedah. Let’s be wise and remain silent and if you have a solid proof that could be helpful, than bring it forth and may Allah guide us all. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aisha Posted February 12, 2007 ^^well said.....and good advice brother! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted February 12, 2007 Salamun caliykum, I don't see a problem with the brother's post. Somalis in the west of late, only one particular form of islam and that is salafism aka wahabbism. There many other schools of thought in the the deen and truthfully speaking, Salafism is a new phenomena. However, that does not mean that there is no baraka in it. There are limitations in that school of thought just like there are limitations in the Ashari Madhaeb or Jafari etc. Important thing is not to make a particular Madhab or Aqeedah into the Allah i.e. Not to be so fixated on it that you end up just thinking about it all day and night and forget to Remember Allah. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted February 12, 2007 Originally posted by Khayr: There are limitations in that school of thought just like there are limitations in the Ashari Madhaeb or Jafari etc. Never heard of the "Ashari Madhaeb"; what can you tell us about it? I only know about Hanafi, Maliki, Shafi'i and Hanbali madhhabs. BTW, are you Shia? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khayr Posted February 12, 2007 ^^^ Just google or yahoo it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted February 12, 2007 Originally posted by Khayr: Just google or yahoo it. Google: Your search - Ashari Madhaeb - did not match any documents. Yahoo: We did not find results for: Ashari Madhaeb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fabregas Posted February 12, 2007 @Taliban wikipedia Ash'ariyyah theology stresses divine revelation over human reason. Ethics, they say, cannot be derived from human reason: God's commands, as revealed in the Qur'an and the practice of Muhammad and his companions (the sunnah, as recorded in the traditions, or hadith), are the source of all morality. Regarding the nature of God and the divine attributes, the Ash'ari rejected the Mu'tazilite position that all Qur'anic references to God as having physical attributes (that is, a body) were metaphorical.[2] Ash'aris insisted that these attributes were "true", since the Qur'an could not be in error, but that they were not to be understood as implying a crude anthropomorphism. Ash'aris tend to stress divine omnipotence over human free will. They believe that the Qur'an is eternal and uncreated. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NGONGE Posted February 12, 2007 Originally posted by Khayr: Salamun caliykum, I don't see a problem with the brother's post. Somalis in the west of late, only one particular form of islam and that is salafism aka wahabbism. There many other schools of thought in the the deen and truthfully speaking, Salafism is a new phenomena. However, that does not mean that there is no baraka in it. There are limitations in that school of thought just like there are limitations in the Ashari Madhaeb or Jafari etc. Important thing is not to make a particular Madhab or Aqeedah into the Allah i.e. Not to be so fixated on it that you end up just thinking about it all day and night and forget to Remember Allah. Salafism is not new at all, saaxib. It’s just happens to be in vogue. Much of the anecdotal evidence I’ve come across says that fifty years ago most of the people of Yemen and Somalia used to look upon Salafis as an abomination and cult that twisted the faith, etc. It seems that nowadays with all the information available people know better and prefer them to all the other sects and persuasions. Ps There is everything wrong with the original post. The author does not come across as someone who understands his own subject. A little like Taliban and his fixation with secularism. Like a kid fascinated with ketchup, he applies it to everything. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sharmarkee Posted February 12, 2007 Originally posted by Taliban: Originally posted by Khayr: Just google or yahoo it. Google: Your search - Ashari Madhaeb - did not match any documents. Yahoo: We did not find results for: Ashari Madhaeb. Talabani, Am not in position to argue of the above topic, i dont even read the original thread, but according to my limited knowlege, Abu Hassan Ashari was a decendent of the great Sahabi Abu Muse Al ashari, Abu hassan become a student of a mutazala, he was facinated by the philosphical way of thinking,and embedding greek philosphy in to the islamic theology, period of ehel kalaam. many culuma of that time liked that way of kalaam to belive or argue, such as Imam Qazali of Duus, and at the end both Qazali and Abu hassan returned back to the fundemantal islamic teachings,and become their greatest critics and refuted day and night, using the same methods and ways of thinking they learned from the mutazala,basically all those arguments were mustalixaat of ehel cilm, not for caamtal naas or the originary people who can't even pray proper - me thinks,their biggest critic later was Sheekh al islam Ibn taymmiyah and his student Ibn Qayyim al jawziyah, Raxmatullahi ajmaciin. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taliban Posted February 12, 2007 Originally posted by Abu_Geeljire: Ash'ariyyah theology stresses divine revelation over human reason. Ethics, they say, cannot be derived from human reason: God's commands, as revealed in the Qur'an and the practice of Muhammad and his companions (the sunnah, as recorded in the traditions, or hadith), are the source of all morality. You have got a confusion; here you are talking about theology, while Khayr is talking about school of thoughts or Madhaeb. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Honesita Posted February 12, 2007 Brother Ameen, jazaka Allah khair for your wisdom... I won't say anything about this Aqeedah or that Aqeedah, but walaahi it is dangerous to also believe in an Aqeedah that is cut and paste!!! People are ignorant not because they don't know how to read, it's because they refuse to read while knowing how to read...!! Modesty, you raised an important issue in saying that you never see a 'wadaad' smiling... Subhanna Allah, many of us look up to the 'wadaads' for our knowledge and judge Islam based on their actions. Where if we were to read about Islam, read the Quran and the Seerah, read the books of the early pious generations of Muslims, we will see how the so called 'wadaads' should act like... Instead of saying this is what we see them do, we would actually be able to correct them... Wadaads are not infallible. Fii Amaani'Laah P.S. Yeah we heard of Sufi and Salafi, but subhanna Allah, did Bush dictate the term Wahabi to us now? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
